Only Juubi and SO6P are above Current Naruto...Seriously..

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Current naruto's powers rivals hashirama and ems madara. When people talk about nagato ive noticed that people compare edo nagato, however when i talk nagato i talk 6 path's because that is the nagato that existed. Some however try and argue that the nagato that fought hanzo is who they mean however, whether that nagato rivals edo nagato or even the 6 paths i dont accept because that nagato will not as much experience with the rinnegan like nagato before he died or edo nagato. Bm naruto > 6 paths

Naruto is in the same league as ems madara and hashirama
However due to naruto's strongest form, he will find it hard to defeat hashirama. If he was to beat hashirama he would have to revert to sm and though strong, not strong enough to accomplish this. Hashirama's experience might also give him an advantage.

Ems madara would have greater trouble, however i see him just defeating naruto in a very intense fight. Like hahsirama experience and the variety of uchiha based techniques either kinjutsu/barriers would allow him to edge it.

However it isnt a valid comment to say that only the sage/juubi are above naruto. Prime kabuto is obviously above naruto and even if we exclude edo madara from kabuto's grasp (something that i dont understand), edo madara is also above him. To trolls saying current madara without edo tensei would lose to naruto are obviously wrong.

The only person legitimately above naruto is kabuto. Hashirama and ems madara are in his league however due to fighting style/experience id rank them as slight favourites against naruto
im humbled that you have graced myself with your presents in my thread...

but i respectfully disagree.

i dont think naruto rivals EMS madara or hashirama.

those too were said to be on the same level, and then somehow hashirama beat rinngen madara [ apparently]

we have seen just excatly what has happen when naruto attacked madara and obtio

to lazy to look for scans.. but if you read the manga you would have seen naruto's attacks being deflected back at him by madara.

and almost being warped by obito at least twice, if not for kakashi or the others.

i do agree that naruto is strong but he is not on the same level as ems madara or hashirama.
 
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this is Naruto vs Itachi

not

Itachi vs Kabuto
Itachi vs Deidara
Itachi vs Nagato
etc

abc logic doesnt exist in NV

now tell me how he beats Naruto.. I'm waiting.
lol.. i was just giving examples of the type of power and brains itachi has.

to one shot orochimaru with hands isnt excatly possiable unless your an uchiha.

then to one shot his hydra mode, which some think could take PS lol, is also impressive.

tell me how you think naruto can beat itachi?

p.s if you say tbb at all i will just ignore you
 

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I can see a chance of him fighting on terms with obito,in a one on one battle on a open field using clones and his new found speed, giving him a 50/50 chance of winning as long as obito was fighting him seriously and not just back peddling and trolling.... the others of course not, those are the gods of shinobi's past...
 
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uhm? what can Itachi do against 15 KM clones who can make mini bijuu damas and huge rasengan's? they are all faster than A so amaterasu will be useless..

Kurama could also beat him even without TBB.
what about yata sheild?

what about tsukyomi which obtio used to controll yagura [ perfect jin} and even kurama?

what about toka blade?

what about KA?

What about itachi's mastermind ability to analze and dicpher any oppent and find there weakness? [ nagato, kabumaru
 

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what about yata sheild?

what about tsukyomi which obtio used to controll yagura [ perfect jin} and even kurama?

what about toka blade?

what about KA?

What about itachi's mastermind ability to analze and dicpher any oppent and find there weakness? [ nagato, kabumaru
you are making me laugh.. Itachi cant even get close to Naruto..
the manga has already shown us genjutsu was useless on Bee

and do you know what you're comparing susanoo to???

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1 TBB from Kurama doesnt alone destroy Susanoo but also Itachi's life.
 
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you are making me laugh.. Itachi cant even get close to Naruto..
the manga has already shown us genjutsu was useless on Bee

and do you know what you're comparing susanoo to???

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1 TBB from Kurama doesnt alone destroy Susanoo but also Itachi's life.
1. sasuke tskymoi<<<itachis

2. show me a scan where tbb destorys a susanno otherwise pure speculation

3. that wasnt one tbb from kurma it was several
 

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1. sasuke tskymoi<<<itachis

2. show me a scan where tbb destorys a susanno otherwise pure speculation

3. that wasnt one tbb from kurma it was several
1) the manga already said perfect jin > genjutsu.. so idgaf about if it was Sasuke's or Itachi's

2) uhm? Susanoo could'nt even handle, Raikage's punch, Hirudora, a wind tech from Danzo.. what the hell makes you think it can handle a TBB??

3) and 1 TBB from Kurama soloed 5 bijuus

I win you lose.
 
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1) the manga already said perfect jin > genjutsu.. so idgaf about if it was Sasuke's or Itachi's

2) uhm? Susanoo could'nt even handle, Raikage's punch, Hirudora, a wind tech from Danzo.. what the hell makes you think it can handle a TBB??

3) and 1 TBB from Kurama soloed 5 bijuus

I win you lose.
omg please stop trolling?

1. YAGURA WAS A PERFECT JIN, OBITO WAS COMPELETLY CONTROLLING HIM WITH GENJUTSU.
SASUKE GENJUTSU IS CHUNNIN LEVEL COMPARED TO OBITO'S AND ITACHI'S

2. sasuke had just obtained the ability to use susanno rib cage, why are you talkinb about sasuke?

itachi susanno is completely different than sasukes

4. 9 tails tbb> the lower level tbb this is a none fact. but no where in the manga is it shown that tbb could destroy susanno and kill the user in one shot.

so in order to save myself from a headache lets just say that itachi cant beat naruto since you seem to think naruto could solo low diff

smfh
 
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omg please stop trolling?

1. YAGURA WAS A PERFECT JIN, OBITO WAS COMPELETLY CONTROLLING HIM WITH GENJUTSU.
SASUKE GENJUTSU IS CHUNNIN LEVEL COMPARED TO OBITO'S AND ITACHI'S

2. sasuke had just obtained the ability to use susanno rib cage, why are you talkinb about sasuke?

itachi susanno is completely different than sasukes

4. 9 tails tbb> the lower level tbb this is a none fact. but no where in the manga is it shown that tbb could destroy susanno and kill the user in one shot.

so in order to save myself from a headache lets just say that itachi cant beat naruto since you seem to think naruto could solo low diff

smfh
yea pretty much low diff..

all Naruto need to do is the same as Bee did.. we dont know anything about Yagura, or Obitos genjutsu.. so that argument is invalid
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and you still think Susanoo can handle Kurama`? just read what Madara says here
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perfect susanoo is equal with a bijuu!! and yet you think a much weaker version of perfect susanoo can handle Kurama? laughable.
 

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One thing that is good to note is that Naruto had already dispersed his clone limit across the battlefields during the Naruto vs Nagato fight...Naruto wasn't able to fully use his shadow clones which is part of his main fighting style. With more clones he wouldn't have been caught in a Preta path suction grip.

He csn place our about 20 KM clones which are capable of using the Rasenshuriken without needing clones....so that's a 20 rasenshuriken barrage. In this mode he would have 20 clones capable of moving at speeds on par with FTG. Put a Rasengan on it and you have 20 FTG moving Narutos w/Rasengan. He could also use his mini bijudama (the attack that Madara used his War fan on) with 20 clones.

Naruto now has Biju transformation which allows for the TBB that csn also use it in quick succession for a multiple tailed beast bomb (I believe he used it right after Bee was Kamuied).

He is capable of having at least one KM or SM clone while in Biju mode.

In terms of endurance Naruto already has a 5 for the stat. His chakra supply is nearly unlimited thanks to Kurama as well as his Uzumaki ancestory.

Just because Naruto is on the level of Obito and Madara (EMS) doesn't always mean he csn beat them. Obito's Kamui is impregnable without Kamui....Naruto does have; however, FTG speed...we saw how Obito was hit by Minato. Madara with Edo tensei and Hashirama DNA is a completely different level entirely, but EMS Madara has a chakra limit as well as an endurance limit.

Those reasons make me believe Naruto is in fact one EMS Madara and Obito's level.
 

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Nagato
Madara
Hashirama
Obito (arguably)
Sage Mode Kabuto
Itachi
Hurizune (was said to have surpassed first and second Hokages and shared the name "God of Shinobi" with the Sage of Six Paths)

Oh and without the help of Naruto and Killer Bee, Itachi would have been defeated rather quickly by Nagato, when he attempted to seal them within his Chibaku Tensei, fight over. Itachi needed help, did not and could not solo Nagato.
 
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