Only Hashirama make the Senju powerful.Hashirama won because of cheating(Must read)

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yeah lets see,do you think madara was so dumb to reveal all of his abilities to the one he considers his enemy,and as if he needed extra intel to fight madara,they fought multiple times each other,each one knows the others' powers,so we can consider madara too a cheater using your theory.
well he actually is since he got his powers by crying over his brother's grave.just stating manga facts.
 

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how was that relevant to any of the previous points?

I don't think you have to be butthurt to be able to create a plan to dominate the world

Power is power and that is the way of the world.....why wouldn't you attempt to become a god? Unlimited power is reason enough

-Madara was always a loser, Couldn't beat hashirama Countless Times
-Couldn't Save his brothers from dieing
-Couldn't protect the Uchiha

So him being Butthurt, He creating the Moon's Eye plan which,

effected, Obito Uchiha [Had Madara not been butthurt, Obito would still be good and not had started the 4th great war]
Affected, The Ninja alliance, Killed Thousands of Shinobi's.
Created the akatsuki [Obito did, madara created obito].

You see,If Madara kept his panties, There would not of been a mess during current time. ;)

*Plus you said Orochimaru has a zetsu Body? Well who created Zetsu? That's Right Madara ;)

Face it, manga > you.
 

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-Madara was always a loser, Couldn't beat hashirama Countless Times
-Couldn't Save his brothers from dieing
-Couldn't protect the Uchiha

So him being Butthurt, He creating the Moon's Eye plan which,

effected, Obito Uchiha [Had Madara not been butthurt, Obito would still be good and not had started the 4th great war]
Affected, The Ninja alliance, Killed Thousands of Shinobi's.
Created the akatsuki [Obito did, madara created obito].

You see,If Madara kept his panties, There would not of been a mess during current time. ;)

*Plus you said Orochimaru has a zetsu Body? Well who created Zetsu? That's Right Madara ;)

Face it, manga > you.

Funny thing is that you skipped completely over my one comment....I'll let you figure out which one

I just find it funny how serious you take it, so I'm just ****ing with you....ride that senju D ride!
^_^


wanna hear some irony though.....without Madara being a sore loser as you put it, there would be no Naruto plot.....the beloved Akatsuki wouldn't exist, Itachi, Sasuke, Naruto would all be friends and life would be boring

at least Madara knows how to spice things up ;)
 
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yeah lets see,do you think madara was so dumb to reveal all of his abilities to the one he considers his enemy,and as if he needed extra intel to fight madara,they fought multiple times each other,each one knows the others' powers,so we can consider madara too a cheater using your theory.
well he actually is since he got his powers by crying over his brother's grave.just stating manga facts.

remember the uchiha clan betray madara and join hashirama side for hokage.The hokage have all information of jutsu from their village,which include the uchiha jutsu.The uchiha clan maybe give hashirama intel about the nakano shrine from what they can see with their sharingan and other stuff
 

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tell me more about the Tsunade being cut in half

First Tsunade is only 1/4 Senju while Hashirama is full Senju. And she's still alive. Which means Madara couldn't even kill 1/4 of a Senju... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Senju > Uchiha
 

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First Tsunade is only 1/4 Senju while Hashirama is full Senju. And she's still alive. Which means Madara couldn't even kill 1/4 of a Senju... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Senju > Uchiha

dudebro....I hope you learn to read other comments of mine before judging me

I clearly stated that Senju>Uchiha

There's a difference between accepting Senju>Uchiha and the stuck up Senju fanboys.....if you're going act like a fanboy, so will I
 

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I'm sorry but you are crazy my friend.

The Senju ALWAYS had "intel" on the Uchiha Clan because it was stated that other villages ALWAYS hired them to fight against each other. It is normal to gather intel from previous battles, and they fought many times. Hashirama BEEN had intel on Uchiha and Madara BEEN had intel on Senju, thats how battle goes. THey fought many times and the manga said that it is OBVIOUS that the Senju were naturally stronger (despite intel), so strong that the proud Uchiha Clan had members that actually switched sides to become Senju. Lets not ignore the obvious--Hashirama was ALWAYS stronger than Madara, and he states this many times in the manga.

I'd even assume that Madara never truly beat Hashirama, without somethihng that we dont yet understand. Do you honestly think EMS Madara beat Hashirama in Sage Mode!?!? Did you see the size of that thing he transformed into before the flashback?!? GET REAL.
 
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