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Hi Guys,
I posted a theory earlier this year [created it in november 2013, but finished it up after certain chapters in April and posted here then], regarding Greenbit, Skypiea and a Poneglyph
I have now updated this theory with details on what i believe will occur with the poneglyph so please enjoy =D
[feel free to correct me whenever, look at this as a give and take thread, i also want you to understand i am not trying to pass off opinion as fact, just a theory]
Please take your time when reading, and jump in with your thoughts.
1. DressRosa the Ancient Kingdom:
The island of the current arc, is the first ''Kingdom'' of the new world.
Looking at it like that, let us compare it to the 1st ''Kingdom'' we came across in the grand line: The Kingdom of Alabasta
Similarities:
Now as we know the Donquixote family ruled over the land of Dressrosa at least as much as 900 years ago, how do we know this:
This was mentioned by the Tontatta's, who also mentioned how they were persecuted under them.
This is quite interesting, if the Donquixote family were presiding over the land of Dressrosa so long ago, why did Doflamingo have to concoct a plan to overthrow the King [King Riku], who was ruling at the time?
What happened to the Donquixote family?
Donquixote Family:
As mentioned, the Don family ruled Dressrosa and persecuted the Tontatta's 900 years ago.
During the next 100 years , a crucial part of One Piece occurred.......THE VOID CENTURY
This leads me to the Don family and what happened during that century.
Professor Clover of the Late Ohara Kingdom mentioned the following:
This ties in well with what Doflamingo said in this current arc:
Based on this information, I speculate the following:
The Donquixote family during the void century joined the 19 other nations and formed the World Government.
During this Void century they were at war with the Un-named Kingdom.
Towards the end of the war, the family joined the other families, [except the Nefertari family], at Mariejois, leaving Dressrosa rulerless.
Soon after that period, the Riku family came to become rulers of the land of Dressrosa :
Now, 10 years ago Doflamingo apparently came back to get his ''Rightful'' land as it belonged to his family to begin with
Now i know what you are thinking, all of these is either well known information, or already speculated
I agree, however i believe Doflamingo, did not just come to Dressrosa to just to rule and carry on to fund his underground persona, because the land was his families, i believe there is an underlying reason...............A Poneglyph
As I began this section of my theory discussion, i wrote the similarities between Alabasta and Dressrosa.
Another similarity that will occur , [IMO], is the discovery of a Poneglyph.
This brings me to the next part of this Dressrosa theory, GREEN BIT.
Green Bit, The Tontatta, Noland & Skypiea:
Green bit is the island adjacent to Dressrosa, funnily enough this is a Spring Island:
I specifically boxed both Green Bit and Jaya as i believe they are related.
Let me go on.
In chapter 713, we saw that the Tontatta's had a statue of Montblanc Norland, and they went on to briefly explain why:
Now i won't insult your intelligence regarding Norland and who he is and where he went, so i will move on.
Please take a look at the following picture:
and also :
I would also like you to remember one of the features of 'Upper Yard' , [which was a part of Jaya, prior to being knocked up into the sky], was that plants grew to an excessive size, which is almost exactly like:
I know what you are thinking, ''Is he really insinuating what i think he is?'', yes.....yes i am.
Please note the following , hypothesised timeline:
900+ Years Ago - Donquixote Family are the current rulers of Dressrosa, Tontatta's live there also and are persecuted
Void Century Occurs
800 Years ago - World Government is formed. Donquixote family moves to Mariejois leaving Dressrosa. During this period the Riku family come into power in Dressrosa and amends relationships with the Tontatta's
400 Years ago - Montblanc Norland comes across Green Bit, around this time Montblanc Norland also comes across Jaya.
During his time on Green Bit, he protects the Tontatta from Humans who were ravaging their land.
During this time Norland also helped Calgara and his people to survive a fatal disease
During this Period Jaya was shot into the sky
This timeline is very interesting, particularly the period relating to Norland.
I say so because i believe the following: GREEN BIT IS THE ''SECOND EYE SOCKET'' ADJACENT TO SHANDORA:
I make this connection based on the following:
Now, you may be wondering, ''if this is true, it is a nice find, but how does this affect the current arc''
This leads me to what i mentioned earlier: A PONEGLYPH
PONEGLYPH:
Doflamingo came 10 years ago to take back his families land.
However i believe this was a lie, and he carries a secret motive.
Doflamingo is a celestial, and a shichibukai however i believe that this all falls behind his commitment to his family and the World Government.
In my opinion, he specifically came to Dressrosa as his family, [or the Gorosei], are under the impression that there is a Poneglyph there, [the knowledge in regards to Green bit being a part of Jaya is with them also].
A funny coincidence is how Doffy repeatedly offered Crocodile, [a shichibukai who is after one of the ancient weapons and had his hands on a Poneglyph a chance to join him]
Is it also coincidental that Robin, the one person who can read the Poneglyphs was with Usopp when they were trapped by the Tontatta and has formed a relationship with them
All the information that oda has presented in this arc leads me to believe that another part of the Void century will be revealed to us via the Poneglyph, as well as a hint to the location and type of weapon Uranus is
and this Poneglyph is with the Tontatta in green Bit
Uranus : The Final Piece of the Puzzle:
Now that I have your attention regarding Green Bit, Skypiea, and the potential Poneglyph
giving us hints on Uranus
Let me focus on the actual weapon URANUS itself
As we know there are three ancient ''Weapons'':
1. Poseidon :
2. Pluton:
3. Uranus:
To anyone with half a mind of historical knowledge
these are names based of Greek Mythology:
1. Poseidon: The ''God'' of the sea:
2. Pluton: The ''God'' of the Underworld, [also known for destruction]:
3. Uranus: The ''God'' of the Sky/Heavens:
Now let's look back at this theory in it's totality:
1. Green Bit being revealed to be the part of ''Skypiea'' which was not knocked up into the sky and carried.
2. A Poneglyph being discovered on this part of ''Skypiea'' which describes the location, or describes what is the final weapon ''Uranus'', [or ''God of the Sky'']
Hmmm, a poneglyph that would and should have been in Skypiea speaking about a ''God of the Sky''
Looking back at Skypiea, wasn't there already a self proclaimed ''God'':
Yes, i believe Enel, or rather his ability which comes from the almost invincible ''Goro Goro no Mi'' is part of the piece of the final weapon Uranus, and Enel's self proclaimed title of ''God'' was a subtle hint by Oda.
I also believe this will become known to enel through his journeys on the moon, [as illustrated by Oda in his cover story]
I know your probably either reading this now with your mouth wide open in shock:
or shaking your head in disgust:
BUT, either way read on
If you remember back in loguetown something very coincidental happened to Luffy prior to being executed by Buggy:
1.
2.
Luffy was saved by a seemingly miraculous bolt of lightning at the perfect timing
And because of this guys appearance:
Many people [including myself has once assumed Dragon may have an ability that seemingly controls the weather, a ''storm storm fruit'' if you will]
Now....
I Think this is still somewhat the case
I believe Uranus is the ability or rather a device which controls the Goro Goro no Mi, and possibly other yet to be revealed elemental devil fruits.
Combining with the other remaining weapon Pluton to amplify the powers greatly and thus living up to the mantle of ''God of the Sky''
Now after reading the hype and my theory what do you think?
is it far fetched that someone who lost to luffy pre time skip, pre haki and pre gear 2nd/3rd, would turn out to be the final weapon or part of it?
actually......not it wouldn't
Why do i say this:
1. We already know a weapon could be a physical living being:
2. An important hint to the future by oda:
That's right the ''Ark Maxim'' of Enel.
Please note what Enel remarks about it:
That's right enel used maxim to amplify his already OP attacks
When amplified by his ship, they were shown to easily destroy an island.
Now can you imagine if ''Pluton'' [the ''God'' of Underworld/Destruction], has a similar ability and is able to amplify the parts that make up Uranus [the ''God'' of the sky]:
Now you're getting my angle, if maxim can amplify Enel to destroy a small island
imagine what the greatest and from what we can assume the most remarkably advanced warship can do?
Destroy continents?,
Possibly the grandline itself?, [redline and such]
If true, now we know why these guys don't want anyone to unite these weapons:
This would also illustrate just how devastating Luffy is to the current government:
1. Will of D carrier [Descendant of the unnamed kingdom]
2. Unconciously uniting legions of powerful friends
3. Befriended the fishmen including the Weapon Poseidon, and protects them under his Straw Hat name
4. Has a shipwright who from Oda's teases, may know how to complete Pluton
5. Has a devil fruit which is probably the only counter to Enel's Goro Goro no Mi
And that concludes my theory.
Now as i stated at the beginning, this is a theory and is all in good fun, and not to be taken as fact, but just my own thoughts and predictions.
I hope you enjoyed
=D
I posted a theory earlier this year [created it in november 2013, but finished it up after certain chapters in April and posted here then], regarding Greenbit, Skypiea and a Poneglyph
I have now updated this theory with details on what i believe will occur with the poneglyph so please enjoy =D
[feel free to correct me whenever, look at this as a give and take thread, i also want you to understand i am not trying to pass off opinion as fact, just a theory]
Please take your time when reading, and jump in with your thoughts.
1. DressRosa the Ancient Kingdom:
The island of the current arc, is the first ''Kingdom'' of the new world.
Looking at it like that, let us compare it to the 1st ''Kingdom'' we came across in the grand line: The Kingdom of Alabasta
Similarities:
- Alabasta and Dressrosa were both run/ruled by a Shichibukai
- Aalabasta and Dressrosa are homes to ancient families that can be connected to the void century
Now as we know the Donquixote family ruled over the land of Dressrosa at least as much as 900 years ago, how do we know this:
You must be registered for see images
This was mentioned by the Tontatta's, who also mentioned how they were persecuted under them.
This is quite interesting, if the Donquixote family were presiding over the land of Dressrosa so long ago, why did Doflamingo have to concoct a plan to overthrow the King [King Riku], who was ruling at the time?
What happened to the Donquixote family?
Donquixote Family:
As mentioned, the Don family ruled Dressrosa and persecuted the Tontatta's 900 years ago.
During the next 100 years , a crucial part of One Piece occurred.......THE VOID CENTURY
This leads me to the Don family and what happened during that century.
Professor Clover of the Late Ohara Kingdom mentioned the following:
You must be registered for see images
This ties in well with what Doflamingo said in this current arc:
You must be registered for see images
Based on this information, I speculate the following:
The Donquixote family during the void century joined the 19 other nations and formed the World Government.
During this Void century they were at war with the Un-named Kingdom.
Towards the end of the war, the family joined the other families, [except the Nefertari family], at Mariejois, leaving Dressrosa rulerless.
Soon after that period, the Riku family came to become rulers of the land of Dressrosa :
You must be registered for see images
Now, 10 years ago Doflamingo apparently came back to get his ''Rightful'' land as it belonged to his family to begin with
Now i know what you are thinking, all of these is either well known information, or already speculated
I agree, however i believe Doflamingo, did not just come to Dressrosa to just to rule and carry on to fund his underground persona, because the land was his families, i believe there is an underlying reason...............A Poneglyph
As I began this section of my theory discussion, i wrote the similarities between Alabasta and Dressrosa.
Another similarity that will occur , [IMO], is the discovery of a Poneglyph.
This brings me to the next part of this Dressrosa theory, GREEN BIT.
Green Bit, The Tontatta, Noland & Skypiea:
Green bit is the island adjacent to Dressrosa, funnily enough this is a Spring Island:
You must be registered for see images
I specifically boxed both Green Bit and Jaya as i believe they are related.
Let me go on.
In chapter 713, we saw that the Tontatta's had a statue of Montblanc Norland, and they went on to briefly explain why:
You must be registered for see images
Now i won't insult your intelligence regarding Norland and who he is and where he went, so i will move on.
Please take a look at the following picture:
You must be registered for see images
and also :
You must be registered for see images
I would also like you to remember one of the features of 'Upper Yard' , [which was a part of Jaya, prior to being knocked up into the sky], was that plants grew to an excessive size, which is almost exactly like:
You must be registered for see images
I know what you are thinking, ''Is he really insinuating what i think he is?'', yes.....yes i am.
Please note the following , hypothesised timeline:
900+ Years Ago - Donquixote Family are the current rulers of Dressrosa, Tontatta's live there also and are persecuted
Void Century Occurs
800 Years ago - World Government is formed. Donquixote family moves to Mariejois leaving Dressrosa. During this period the Riku family come into power in Dressrosa and amends relationships with the Tontatta's
400 Years ago - Montblanc Norland comes across Green Bit, around this time Montblanc Norland also comes across Jaya.
During his time on Green Bit, he protects the Tontatta from Humans who were ravaging their land.
During this time Norland also helped Calgara and his people to survive a fatal disease
During this Period Jaya was shot into the sky
This timeline is very interesting, particularly the period relating to Norland.
I say so because i believe the following: GREEN BIT IS THE ''SECOND EYE SOCKET'' ADJACENT TO SHANDORA:
I make this connection based on the following:
- Green Bit is separate to Dressrosa itself
- It's topography and plant life mirror 'Upper Yard'
- The statue of Norland and the time of his apperance there coincide with his visit to Jaya
- Bellamy was shown to have gone to Skypiea and retrieved a ''Gold Rod''
- The actual island of Green Bit matches with the original shape of Jaya
Now, you may be wondering, ''if this is true, it is a nice find, but how does this affect the current arc''
This leads me to what i mentioned earlier: A PONEGLYPH
PONEGLYPH:
Doflamingo came 10 years ago to take back his families land.
However i believe this was a lie, and he carries a secret motive.
Doflamingo is a celestial, and a shichibukai however i believe that this all falls behind his commitment to his family and the World Government.
In my opinion, he specifically came to Dressrosa as his family, [or the Gorosei], are under the impression that there is a Poneglyph there, [the knowledge in regards to Green bit being a part of Jaya is with them also].
A funny coincidence is how Doffy repeatedly offered Crocodile, [a shichibukai who is after one of the ancient weapons and had his hands on a Poneglyph a chance to join him]
Is it also coincidental that Robin, the one person who can read the Poneglyphs was with Usopp when they were trapped by the Tontatta and has formed a relationship with them
All the information that oda has presented in this arc leads me to believe that another part of the Void century will be revealed to us via the Poneglyph, as well as a hint to the location and type of weapon Uranus is
and this Poneglyph is with the Tontatta in green Bit
Uranus : The Final Piece of the Puzzle:
Now that I have your attention regarding Green Bit, Skypiea, and the potential Poneglyph
giving us hints on Uranus
Let me focus on the actual weapon URANUS itself
As we know there are three ancient ''Weapons'':
1. Poseidon :
You must be registered for see images
2. Pluton:
You must be registered for see images
3. Uranus:
You must be registered for see images
To anyone with half a mind of historical knowledge
these are names based of Greek Mythology:
1. Poseidon: The ''God'' of the sea:
You must be registered for see images
2. Pluton: The ''God'' of the Underworld, [also known for destruction]:
You must be registered for see images
3. Uranus: The ''God'' of the Sky/Heavens:
You must be registered for see images
Now let's look back at this theory in it's totality:
1. Green Bit being revealed to be the part of ''Skypiea'' which was not knocked up into the sky and carried.
2. A Poneglyph being discovered on this part of ''Skypiea'' which describes the location, or describes what is the final weapon ''Uranus'', [or ''God of the Sky'']
Hmmm, a poneglyph that would and should have been in Skypiea speaking about a ''God of the Sky''
Looking back at Skypiea, wasn't there already a self proclaimed ''God'':
You must be registered for see images
Yes, i believe Enel, or rather his ability which comes from the almost invincible ''Goro Goro no Mi'' is part of the piece of the final weapon Uranus, and Enel's self proclaimed title of ''God'' was a subtle hint by Oda.
I also believe this will become known to enel through his journeys on the moon, [as illustrated by Oda in his cover story]
I know your probably either reading this now with your mouth wide open in shock:
You must be registered for see images
or shaking your head in disgust:
You must be registered for see images
BUT, either way read on
If you remember back in loguetown something very coincidental happened to Luffy prior to being executed by Buggy:
1.
You must be registered for see images
2.
You must be registered for see images
Luffy was saved by a seemingly miraculous bolt of lightning at the perfect timing
And because of this guys appearance:
You must be registered for see images
Many people [including myself has once assumed Dragon may have an ability that seemingly controls the weather, a ''storm storm fruit'' if you will]
Now....
I Think this is still somewhat the case
I believe Uranus is the ability or rather a device which controls the Goro Goro no Mi, and possibly other yet to be revealed elemental devil fruits.
Combining with the other remaining weapon Pluton to amplify the powers greatly and thus living up to the mantle of ''God of the Sky''
Now after reading the hype and my theory what do you think?
is it far fetched that someone who lost to luffy pre time skip, pre haki and pre gear 2nd/3rd, would turn out to be the final weapon or part of it?
actually......not it wouldn't
Why do i say this:
1. We already know a weapon could be a physical living being:
You must be registered for see images
2. An important hint to the future by oda:
You must be registered for see images
That's right the ''Ark Maxim'' of Enel.
Please note what Enel remarks about it:
You must be registered for see images
That's right enel used maxim to amplify his already OP attacks
When amplified by his ship, they were shown to easily destroy an island.
Now can you imagine if ''Pluton'' [the ''God'' of Underworld/Destruction], has a similar ability and is able to amplify the parts that make up Uranus [the ''God'' of the sky]:
You must be registered for see images
Now you're getting my angle, if maxim can amplify Enel to destroy a small island
imagine what the greatest and from what we can assume the most remarkably advanced warship can do?
Destroy continents?,
Possibly the grandline itself?, [redline and such]
If true, now we know why these guys don't want anyone to unite these weapons:
You must be registered for see images
This would also illustrate just how devastating Luffy is to the current government:
1. Will of D carrier [Descendant of the unnamed kingdom]
2. Unconciously uniting legions of powerful friends
3. Befriended the fishmen including the Weapon Poseidon, and protects them under his Straw Hat name
4. Has a shipwright who from Oda's teases, may know how to complete Pluton
5. Has a devil fruit which is probably the only counter to Enel's Goro Goro no Mi
And that concludes my theory.
Now as i stated at the beginning, this is a theory and is all in good fun, and not to be taken as fact, but just my own thoughts and predictions.
I hope you enjoyed
=D
