[Discussion] One Piece Powerscale

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What I think is that you are an idiot if you think that Machvise weighed 1,000,000,000,000 kg. It was just a catchy name for his attack. Just like those pound canons of Zoro, what is that even based on ? so Zoro can only do a couple of pounds but DD henchmen #5 can do into the millions ?

Can't believe that this topic has two threads and people are seriously discussing it.

Empire State Building, NYC = 365,000,000 kg
Woolworth Building, NYC = 223,000,000 kg
John Hancock Tower, Chicago = 174,500,000 kg

So basically the punch of a giant can launch 2700 empire state buildings into the air ? So are we back in reality again now, go take your temperature and promise to never make stupid threads again.
Well, matey. Machvises ability is to increase an objects weight, that's where his strength lies. That's all he has going for him. So it's not illogical to be completely ridiculous and over the top with how much he can make his shield weigh.

Stop with the conceited and provocative attitude, doesn't make you many friends :)
 
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Dimension is instant, so what? That doesn't change anything. Kenbunshoku Haki still works the same.

Changing the battlefield won't make a difference in a fight with such strong characters that could speed blitz her anyways, let alone punch her to shit. (FYI I'm not even taking Devil Fruits into account)
How the flying truck can you blitze something that is instant?
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Other than the fact that you need a sun moon seal to defeat Kaguya,Kaguya just leaves the character in a different dimension and leaves them to rot
 

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How the flying truck can you blitze something that is instant?
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Other than the fact that you need a sun moon seal to defeat Kaguya,Kaguya just leaves the character in a different dimension and leaves them to rot
I'm not talking about blitzing the change of dimension you ninny! I'm saying they are faster than Kaguya.

It's not a fight, but a retreat if she leaves you in another dimension to 'rot'. By your logic she's on par with TOAA from Marvel... stop giving her a rimjob
 

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The winner is the one who lives...
The winner is the one who lives through the FIGHT. Retreating and living doesn't make the retreater victorious

So creating a moon isn't moon level? Juubi busting a continent isn't a feat?
Creating the moon is moon level, but it's hype. You haven't actually seen it happen, have you?

Juubi busted a large area, not a continent. If it busted the continent then everything on the known Naruto world map would be destroyed. Sadly for you, everything is intact, because the Juubi destroyed like 20 mountains.

Sasuke and Naruto (both on Sages level (apparently moon level) couldn't even destroy a country.
 

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His point still stands, it's just that mangapanda or reader w/e had sh*tty translations.
Well, the feat is far less.impressive now.

The winner is the one who lives through the FIGHT. Retreating and living doesn't make the retreater victorious


Creating the moon is moon level, but it's hype. You haven't actually seen it happen, have you?

Juubi busted a large area, not a continent. If it busted the continent then everything on the known Naruto world map would be destroyed. Sadly for you, everything is intact, because the Juubi destroyed like 20 mountains.

Sasuke and Naruto (both on Sages level (apparently moon level) couldn't even destroy a country.
Read up on what BFR is and o rly? What did naruto & sasuke seal kaguya in?
 

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The winner is the one who lives through the FIGHT. Retreating and living doesn't make the retreater victorious


Creating the moon is moon level, but it's hype. You haven't actually seen it happen, have you?

Juubi busted a large area, not a continent. If it busted the continent then everything on the known Naruto world map would be destroyed. Sadly for you, everything is intact, because the Juubi destroyed like 20 mountains.

Sasuke and Naruto (both on Sages level (apparently moon level) couldn't even destroy a country.
Lol it seems you didn't see Naruto/Sasuke sealing kaguya.

V2 juubi was a country buster with a small bb. Flower juubi made a bb that made hachibi look like an ant. Then the four red sun didn't even crack from the explosion. Then came juubito who destroyed the same barrier with chakra arms. Rikudo naruto and rinnegan sasukebare far above juubito. One piece hasn't shown something that interesting. Best feat in one piece is Chinjao's ice continent, which turned out to be an island.
Even in speed nv is superior. They have people that can casually react to instant teleportation, like pre juubi madara.
That toriko though.
 

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Well, the feat is far less.impressive now.


Read up on what BFR is and o rly? What did naruto & sasuke seal kaguya in?
Sorry what's BFR?

Feat is less impressive, but my point still remains the same
Lol it seems you didn't see Naruto/Sasuke sealing kaguya.

V2 juubi was a country buster with a small bb. Flower juubi made a bb that made hachibi look like an ant. Then the four red sun didn't even crack from the explosion. Then came juubito who destroyed the same barrier with chakra arms. Rikudo naruto and rinnegan sasukebare far above juubito. One piece hasn't shown something that interesting. Best feat in one piece is Chinjao's ice continent, which turned out to be an island.
Even in speed nv is superior. They have people that can casually react to instant teleportation, like pre juubi madara.
That toriko though.
Where is your evidence of country busting? Show a map with a missing country. I urge you to.

@bold So when did interest correlate to power? IMO One Piece is way more interesting than that ninja drivel.

Reacting to something instant still takes time and is by no means a feat. How about this for a speed comparison?:

Naruto still cannot break the sound barrier. Luffy broke the sound barrier back in Ennies Lobby, pre timeskip. In fact, his enemy, Blueno could break the sound barrier, yet Luffy blitzed him. So pre TS Luffy already speed blitzes Ch 699 Naruto

Now, timeskip: Luffy can dodge Lasers (light speed). Light is 892,800 times faster than sound. So, Luffy is already proving to be substantially faster than Naruto. Lest we not forget the fact that Luffy got blitzed by Doflamingo whom is by no means portrayed as fast in comparison to the rest of the New World. LELELELELELELELELELELEL.

P.S. Teleportation is not speed.
 
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Why on earth is this being discussed? Attacks in Naruto has more DC than attacks in OP. Hence,Naruto is clearly above OP in this department.
 
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