[Spoilers] One Piece Manga General Spoilers & Summaries

[Skull Knight]

Lol, Oda probably saw people complaining about this arc dragging on so he said 'fk it', im skipping the fight. Oda's triggered and ya'll the cause!

 

[OG sama]

And of course the fight ends and Luffy runs away...

Im really getting annoyed by this running away shit, he’s not solving anything doing that and it makes the fights lame.

But whatever I’m just ready for this arc to be over.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

If the spoilers are real
atleast we might get to see the most useless char, smoothie do something.

 

[OG sama]

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[Skull Knight]

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[~Naruto&Itachi~]

And of course the fight ends and Luffy runs away...

Im really getting annoyed by this running away shit, he’s not solving anything doing that and it makes the fights lame.

But whatever I’m just ready for this arc to be over.

There is no logical way Oda can explain how Luffy can defeat Katakuri 1v1 right now(if only someone told you that a month ago....) so to me this is much better than a crazy a$$pull. Also Big Mom isn't going down this arc, so what's the point of defeating her commenders this early into the story

 

[Olorin]

post 1

(Not sure about the first part)
The cake is complete , oven wants to kill the traitor chiffon .. sanji hurrys up to save chiffon's father , oven's goal is actually to bring out chiffon and take her as a hostage and call beg through denden mushi . Bege appears on ship and starts bombarding oven .

A rabbit kid is worried that it is "full moon today" .

Luffy : I will beat him with all of my power , the 1 billion -bounty- man !

post 2

Title: Zish Ish How I Live

Sanji and co start moving the cake to the port. They meet oven outside. Oven lets pudding pass but tackles Chiffon down. Chiffon swears to help make the cake to the end but Oven calls her a traitor and prepares to take her out. Pound tries to rescue Chiffon. Sanji (in disguise) helps chiffon escape while Pound takes the attention. Oven catches up to Chiffon. Oven gets a call from his den-den-mushi telling him that Bege’s ship is heading towards Cacao Island and is being pursued. Oven uses Chiffon as hostage for Bege to dock at the port and surrender. Bege complies. Bege reaches the port and shoots Oven but is surrounded from the sea.

[Sunny’s side] Carrot: I wonder if it’s a full moon tonight

[Luffy’s side] Luffy jumps between the various towns and mirro-world. Luffy tries to figure out how to beat Katakuri. Flashback to Rayleigh saying that Haki’s potential can only be truly released in an extreme battle, by facing stronger enemies, you will also stronger and stronger.

Luffy wonders if he can also see the future a little and announces that he wants to beat Katakuri at full power

[886 End]

post 3

Alternate translation

The cake is finished, Oven wants to kill the traitor Chiffon
To complete his goals, Sanji decided to let her die
However Chiffon's dad decided to make a quick rescue
Oven realised the one who struck him was not Chiffon's dad
He immediately sniffs out the hiding Chiffon and drags her out
He was going to use her as a hostage and call Bege on the den den mushi
However Bege arrives on his ship and blasts Oven in the face

The children of the rabbit are concerned since it is a full moon
Luffy: I wanna win against him when he's at his full strength! The 1 billion berry man!

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Full Moon, huh? I suppose it has something to do with the Minks.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I know we already got Jinbei this arc but I'd still like to see Carrot join. At least the minks should be part of the fleet later on.

 

[OG sama]

post 1

(Not sure about the first part)
The cake is complete , oven wants to kill the traitor chiffon .. sanji hurrys up to save chiffon's father , oven's goal is actually to bring out chiffon and take her as a hostage and call beg through denden mushi . Bege appears on ship and starts bombarding oven .

A rabbit kid is worried that it is "full moon today" .

Luffy : I will beat him with all of my power , the 1 billion -bounty- man !

post 2

Title: Zish Ish How I Live

Sanji and co start moving the cake to the port. They meet oven outside. Oven lets pudding pass but tackles Chiffon down. Chiffon swears to help make the cake to the end but Oven calls her a traitor and prepares to take her out. Pound tries to rescue Chiffon. Sanji (in disguise) helps chiffon escape while Pound takes the attention. Oven catches up to Chiffon. Oven gets a call from his den-den-mushi telling him that Bege’s ship is heading towards Cacao Island and is being pursued. Oven uses Chiffon as hostage for Bege to dock at the port and surrender. Bege complies. Bege reaches the port and shoots Oven but is surrounded from the sea.

[Sunny’s side] Carrot: I wonder if it’s a full moon tonight

[Luffy’s side] Luffy jumps between the various towns and mirro-world. Luffy tries to figure out how to beat Katakuri. Flashback to Rayleigh saying that Haki’s potential can only be truly released in an extreme battle, by facing stronger enemies, you will also stronger and stronger.

Luffy wonders if he can also see the future a little and announces that he wants to beat Katakuri at full power

[886 End]

post 3

Alternate translation

The cake is finished, Oven wants to kill the traitor Chiffon
To complete his goals, Sanji decided to let her die
However Chiffon's dad decided to make a quick rescue
Oven realised the one who struck him was not Chiffon's dad
He immediately sniffs out the hiding Chiffon and drags her out
He was going to use her as a hostage and call Bege on the den den mushi
However Bege arrives on his ship and blasts Oven in the face

The children of the rabbit are concerned since it is a full moon
Luffy: I wanna win against him when he's at his full strength! The 1 billion berry man!

So does this mean Luffys about to get a Haki boost, if so its about time. Sounds like Luffy is going to beat Katakuri straight up this time, without exploiting a stupid weakness.

Why can't Sanji fight Oven, that was like the most perfect time as any, come on Oda.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I know we already got Jinbei this arc, but I'd still like to see Carrot join. At least the minks should be part of the fleet later on.

01. Zoro
02. Nami
03 Usopp
04. Sanji
05. Chopper
06. Robin
07. Franky
08. Brook
09. Jinbe
10. Carrot.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Looks like the theory that a full moon is gonna happen this arc and give Carrot a power-boost against Pero or something of the sort might be coming through.

The "Your Haki can get stronger as you fight" thing seems pretty cop-outish/cheap to me. Would rather have Luffy unveil something like a new form/usage of Haoshoku or if there was a weakness from Katakuri that would be sustained, but hopefully it pans out in action.

 

[OG sama]

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[OG sama]

Looks like the theory that a full moon is gonna happen this arc and give Carrot a power-boost against Pero or something of the sort might be coming through.

The "Your Haki can get stronger as you fight" thing seems pretty cop-outish/cheap to me. Would rather have Luffy unveil something like a new form/usage of Haoshoku or if there was a weakness from Katakuri that would be sustained, but hopefully it pans out in action.

Sounds like Luffy isn't much different from Super Saiyans after all.

I like this way much better honestly because Katakuri going down to some cheap weakness would devalue a fighter of his caliber, as a Yonko FM he should not have stupid weaknesses or many weaknesses at all.

 

[Olorin]

Sounds like Luffy isn't much different from Super Saiyans after all.

I like this way much better honestly because Katakuri going down to some cheap weakness would devalue a fighter of his caliber, as a Yonko FM he should not have stupid weaknesses or many weaknesses at all.

getting stronger with fighting isnt hte problme in DB(Z&S), that makes sense, this is the problem:

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though that isn't neccessarily a saiyan problem, it's just a dragon ball problem

but in OP it goes:

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growth through battle is fine for the most part, where it feels wrong is if it jumps too much too fast

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sounds like Luffy isn't much different from Super Saiyans after all.

I like this way much better honestly because Katakuri going down to some cheap weakness would devalue a fighter of his caliber, as a Yonko FM he should not have stupid weaknesses or many weaknesses at all.

I disagree. Having a weak points that can be exploited is far more creative and believable than "I got stronger because I just did."

 

[OG sama]

I disagree. Having a weak points that can be exploited is far more creative and believable than "I got stronger because I just did."

But how else can Luffy improve his Haki otherwise? Fighting stronger and stronger opponents to improve ones CoA was something we all seemed to agree was how Luffy would get stronger, there's no more timeskips so Oda couldn't have showcased Haki improvement any other way.

Katakuri going down because for example, he "lost his cool" is by far the worst way for someone of his caliber to go down. And then people would be complaining about how Luffy couldn't win because of that said weakness as well, so all the people who would be "okay" with it would just use those same weaknesses against Luffy and/or Katakuri when they were seemingly okay with it before.

 

[OG sama]

getting stronger with fighting isnt hte problme in DB(Z&S), that makes sense, this is the problem:

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though that isn't neccessarily a saiyan problem, it's just a dragon ball problem

but in OP it goes:

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growth through battle is fine for the most part, where it feels wrong is if it jumps too much too fast

It sounds like your putting Katakuri and or Top commanders on some pedestal they were never on in the first place. I remember when the Timeskip began and many people thought Vista could solo all the SNs on his own. But I tried to tell people there was no way Marco and other Top commanders were a lot stronger than Luffy after DR but nobody ever listened. They insisted on Luffy being fodder level to them.

I want to say I told you guys so but, I told you so.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But how else can Luffy improve his Haki otherwise? Fighting stronger and stronger opponents to improve ones CoA was something we all seemed to agree was how Luffy would get stronger, there's no more timeskips so Oda couldn't have showcased Haki improvement any other way.

Training. The OP world is a big place. Oda could have simply done "mini-timeskips" as the time between islands. Taking a few months to get to Wano or something would not only be believable, but perfect set-up for Luffy to train like mad during that time to get better.

Luffy improving on Haki mid-fight isn't bad in of itself, but gaining significant strength in ANY and EVERY right because it's inherent to Haki? Just seems cheap to me.

Katakuri going down because for example, he "lost his cool" is by far the worst way for someone of his caliber to go down.

Agreed, but this doesn't have to be the weakness if a weakness is done.

 

[OG sama]

Training. The OP world is a big place. Oda could have simply done "mini-timeskips" as the time between islands. Taking a few months to get to Wano or something would not only be believable, but perfect set-up for Luffy to train like mad during that time to get better.

Luffy improving on Haki mid-fight isn't bad in of itself, but gaining significant strength in ANY and EVERY right because it's inherent to Haki? Just seems cheap to me.


Agreed, but this doesn't have to be the weakness if a weakness is done.

I would have loved some mini training arcs but I knew it was never going to happen so I threw that thought out of my mind a long time ago.

True, but it seemed like what was going to happen until this spoiler came about.

I wonder what this means for the other SN, I'm starting to think since Wano got delayed, Law and Zoro and the other SN are training somewhere on Wano as we speak. And by the time he gets there, they too will be much stronger just like he is getting stronger.