[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 902 Discussion and 903 Predictions
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Uzumaki Macho
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He and the other SHs not on Dressrosa got a 50 million increase for being associated with the SHs, and Sanji only got an extra 50 million because of the Vinsmokes. So Sanji won't be getting a big bounty increase since he hasn't done much to get a bounty increase.
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Uzumaki Macho
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Using that logic, his bounty still won't go above Zoro's since Zoro would also get a big increase. Also if simply being a member of a crew is enough to give you an over 100 million increase, then why is Bobbin's bounty so low? So many people want Sanji to get a bounty higher than Zoro's for some reason, even though it wouldn't make sense.
I agree with that. Zoros bounty should be higher than sanjis, but Morgan sees Zoros isn't with the shs. I bet the shs specifically there will all get a bounty increase. Zoros should still be higher
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Another overlooked fact when it comes to arguments saying Sanji should have poisoned the cake is that if Sanji had poisoned the cake and killed Big Mom, he wouldn’t be looked the same by Luffy and the crew. Luffy explicitly stated number of times that he’s going to beat the Yonkou himself and an underhanded move like that wouldn’t be acceptable to Luffy if he becomes PK like that
Wait.. what? When did I say that Sanji's bounty should be higher than Zoro's or that I wanted it to be higher??
I definitely agree with you on that 1000000%!
I'm just saying that with everything going on, the WG should most likely change Sanji's bounty poster to "Wanted Dead or Alive" again, and while they're at it I think his bounty will get an increase as well.
I do not think this increase will be drastic.. nor higher than Zoro's.
I kinda even still want Usopp's bounty to be higher than Sanji's, but I think Oda might take this opportunity to raise Sanji's bounty higher than Usopp's again.. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.. but either way the WCI arc should warrant some type of raise in bounties.. not sure how much though..
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You know? It all depends on how Morgans will deliver the news and how the WG will react, something such as disturbing Yonkou is... I dunno. Is it worth bounty up? Even Sanji and co who were outside Dressrosa received bounty increase. If WG gonna make of Whole Cake Island such a big deal, Zoro who was absent will get higher bounty, so in the end, Zoro will always be ahead of Sanji in strength and bounty. Always.
That doesn't mean it's good criticism or even warranted. Anyone who is complaining about Sanji not poisoning the cake, completely lacks the ability to understand his character, or any character for that matter, even on a basic level. You can't just make characters do stuff that goes against their essence on a whim when it's convenient. That's not how it works.
When Sanji was introduced in the series, he fed a starved and dangerous pirate crew, knowing full well that this could severely backfire. Yet he did it anyway. In this chapter we were treated with an echo of that with Zeff feeding a bunch of louth-mouthed pirates saying he will feed anyone that is hungry. For Sanji cooking might as well be a religion, an ideology or a mantra, it's not some shallow principle.
So people who think that just because of this situation he has to betray his way of life, shouldn't be criticizing as they simply lack the ability to do so properly. They are just complaining for the sake of complaining, completely oblivious about what it is they're actually saying.
Seriously expecting of Sanji to poison his food just because you think it's practical in this specific situation, is like expecting that Zoro will throw away his swords and will start using guns just because he encountered an opponent that has an advantage over swordsmen: it's messed up and screws his character up.
All of them just had an increase, this despite the WCI-group (excluding Luffy) leaving Dressrosa halfway through. If they would receive yet another increase, which I highly doubt, the whole crew would receive one.
At the very best Jinbei is possible as he hasn't received any increase since Marineford and Luffy maybe by virtue of him being the ringleader. There's a slight chance for Sanji, but that's purely because his previous bounty had been 'tampered' with. For all the others there is absolutely no reason to change anything.
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Stopped reading here because that has jack to do with what I said and I doubt the rest is any less irrelevant. Love Cook dismissed his criticism by saying "The cake saved their lives," I said that doesn't mean there's nothing critical about it as a plot point. That's it, miss me with the rest of that
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Quite a difference between fodders who may have turned on him and a yonko that threatened Zeff's life. You can say character all you want, but Oda seriously missed a big chance to develop Sanji past the ridiculousness he is now. If Sanji could put his code aside to protect his sister from Big Mom's attack, he could put it away to protect multiple more lives. It wouldn't even have to be fatal as long as it kept her down a while.
you're acting like this is real life and that Sanji has like a mind on his own. But it's part of a story all created by 1 person. If Oda decides Pedro bites the bullet here, you can speculate all you want about all the different ways people could've done things differently to save his life. But Pedro was already destined to die at that point.
I feel like you missed the biggest page of why this choice was made.
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If you don't understand what Luffy is saying here, you're Judge in this situation. That also means that the entire backstory of Sanji was lost on you and that you didn't grasp what Oda was trying to establish this arc.
If you claim to understand it but you still want him to poison the cake or throw away any other values he has, maybe stop riding such a high horse and trying to explain others what would've been best for his character.
I see you were skim reading once again and missing important plotlines. The reason Sanji got a bounty raise and why it changed to only alive was because Big Mom pulled some government strings to get him to the te party.
But lmao your way through threads with baseless criticism on the story. Doesn't make you look any smarter though.
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HowDidIGetPrem
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What high horse? I'm just saying Sanji's character has taken a moronic route. Sure, he's always had these values but I'd never imagine to this extent. It's frankly you and Cali that's taking shots at the intelligence of everyone who disagrees with Sanji's action. I say it's moronic and you guys pretty much say "it is what it is," I agree to that and say "it" is moronic then get bashed just because.
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TIL plot points being something that can be looked at for criticism is nonsense, and not basic literary common sense
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Same reason kidds was higher than luffys. And because of the way oda writes. I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone whose a fan of one piece xD
For example at thriller bark, Sandi and zoro both try to give their life for luffys, but zoro just knocks sanji out and gives his life up instead, of course Kuma spared everyone but that's one example of odas writing, oda actually uses very good writing techniques like foreshadowing and if you can just understand that, you can understand why zoro should have a higher bounty, now we can get into more technical things besides foreshadowing but Its honestly just obvious at this point
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