[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 883 Discussion and 884 Predictions

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I like how in the ending chapter how Dogtooth surpasses haki and how dogtooth blocks G4 haki with his forearm. Last guy who did that was sent flying half way across the city so if I hear another Dofy stronger than Dogtooth or G4 again from another idiot, this chapter will be used for reference.
 

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What does Luffy mean when he said to Katakuri "You're not invincible"? How this fight switched quickly 180 degree that Luffy now his turn to kick ass? I'm lost with this chapter. Is Luffy gonna target his punches on Katakuri's mouth? Is it a weakpoint? I'm lost. Someone please explain.
 

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What does Luffy mean when he said to Katakuri "You're not invincible"? How this fight switched quickly 180 degree that Luffy now his turn to kick ass? I'm lost with this chapter. Is Luffy gonna target his punches on Katakuri's mouth? Is it a weakpoint? I'm lost. Someone please explain.
Luffy figured out that using a certain power keeps him from being mobile leaving him vulnerable to attacks. That and maybe Luffy probably figured out how to awaken his a hopeful possibility though unlikely.
 

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I like how in the ending chapter how Dogtooth surpasses haki and how dogtooth blocks G4 haki with his forearm. Last guy who did that was sent flying half way across the city so if I hear another Dofy stronger than Dogtooth or G4 again from another idiot, this chapter will be used for reference.
Dogtooth is physically stronger than a half-dead Doffy? What a twist!
 

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:lol People calling Dofy half dead before the fight luffy? What twist?

Let's pretend that luffy wasn't weakened at all and Doflaimngo stitched his ruptured organs together so in no means is getting stitched up the same as being "half dead."

People they keep trying.
 

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:lol People calling Dofy half dead before the fight luffy? What twist?

Let's pretend that luffy wasn't weakened at all and Doflaimngo stitched his ruptured organs together so in no means is getting stitched up the same as being "half dead."

People they keep trying.
Doffy straight up says he didn't heal and you think the damage just disappeared? Luffy was injured by what?

Tourney fights: Dont count because he ate after

Bellamy: Bellamy was not only far weaker than Luffy, but already beat the **** up

String Joker: Part of Doffy's power
 

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Ok this is just sad and depressing. I can only assume that after FT ended some people needed to find another outlet for their pent up frustrations and decided that OP was the next best thing. What some people have been doing for a while now is being nothing more than an eyesore as you whine for the sake of whining and you use that as an excuse to hide the reality you don't even bother thinking. It's like an automatic impulse: complain immediately.

Dafuq! bruh, there is a difference between an intelligent counter/learning an ability and "oh yeah somehow my weakness info is leaking on its own" bullcrap.

Luffy expected katakuri to dodge his attack then he didn't and somehow "that made all the sense" that's whack AF.

I started having problem with a 1 billion berrie n#gga complaining gear 2 Luffy is dodging his attacks more than anyone he faced before. Ehhhhhh is that bounty a fraud? Not equating a bounty to strength by any means but Are you for real here?
I mean look at this ^, that doesn't even make any sense. Luffy was able to hit Dogtooth, meaning something was different and Luffy believes he knows what that is. This is one of the most fundamental basics of any kind of fight: find out the weakness of the opponent and exploit it. Your reaction? "That's whack AF". What?

This is the truth: there is nothing particularly unusual about this fight, you just want to whine. Yes this is a manga, so there's always a certain amount of things being 'manipulated', but you shouldn't pull this out of proportion. The way how some people here are dissing this fight is so narrow-minded, restrictive and even borderline draconian that if you would consistently apply this to any existing fight in any fictional series, almost all of them would be complete crap.

The fight is not the problem, it's this twisted and irrational way of viewing the fight that's wrong and there's quite an easy way to underline this. The most important thing we learned from this chapter is that Katakuri has some kind of weakness and Luffy figured out what that is. Now the most logical thing would be to discuss that potential weakness...something barely anyone has done in this thread. Instead it went immediately to "he's being nerfed". That's complete BS. You can only talk about nerfing if you actually know all the factors involved, which none of you do.

Now imagine for example that Dogtooth needs a huge sugar intake from time to time to function at full capacity. Oda often gives characters themes that are complementary with the character's ability. Like Perospero, a candyman who is licking a lollypop all the time. Now Dogtooth is made out of mochi, a substance that's most of the time sweet and thus sugary. So that he would be addicted to sweet stuff wouldn't be that much of a surprise and people who are full of sugar are highly active. However the moment such a sugar rush is over they become kinda sluggish. So what if Dogtooth's punctuality of eating his snacks at always the exact time isn't just to appear disciplined, but also to maximize his energy output?

Due to all the things that have happened his snack-time got delayed quite a bit. This would explain why Luffy was preforming better the longer the fight lasted as Dogtooth was being drained of his sugar and why he abruptly tried to end it by burying Luffy and then immediately started eating.

Is this true? I don't know, it might be complete bogus. I do know however that this is the kind of logic Oda often uses as it makes just enough sense to work and that it's something Luffy surely could figure out because he has got the same relationship with meat. This is how you should approach and discuss a chapter, but instead it's "oh no, he has a weakness, he got nerfed! Booooo". You're not even trying to think about the possibilities and that's just depressing. You just make arbitrary and questionable assumptions and then complain when they are not met.
 

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Ok this is just sad and depressing. I can only assume that after FT ended some people needed to find another outlet for their pent up frustrations and decided that OP was the next best thing.
>Implying that FT was anything high of mediocre

Why even bring in a manga that had atrocious asspulls thick and through with shitty storytelling as a defense for why people need to complain about something else?

What some people have been doing for a while now is being nothing more than an eyesore as you whine for the sake of whining and you use that as an excuse to hide the reality you don't even bother thinking. It's like an automatic impulse: complain immediately.
I didn't hate this chapter, but this is just insane. People aren't choosing to whine for the sake of whining. They obviously have a reason for it, some reasons are more shallow than others, but they are still reasons. Maybe some people are just sick of this arc, or maybe some people don't like how certain characters are being portrayed or introduced from this arc.

I guarantee there have been at least 1 arc where you have complained and wished it was over, so you people should stop telling other people to stop whining. You are even worse than the people whining by telling them to stop whining.

This is exactly why the One Piece fanbase has gotten so bad, they can never accept negative criticism, and expect everyone to give positive reviews and thumbs up for every chapter, despite there being major flaws in the arc.
 
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Whereโ€™s LBreezy? Iโ€™d actually like to see your thoughtful input in this chapter.

When someone starts arguing with you that a stitched up organ canโ€™t prevent your forearm and Haki from being sent flying half way across dressrosa, then thatโ€™s just some dumb fanboy stuff that you canโ€™t risk loosing anymore brain cells dignifying.

Where you at bro?
 

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I wonder if Katakuri's power wains boased on the amount of sugar he has and that's why he needs his lunch at the same time to keep his power on top but now that he's overrun hiis normal time his power's dropping below his normal operating level so he's able to be hit now.

Also I think Katakuri looks better without his face covered.
 

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Ok this is just sad and depressing. I can only assume that after FT ended some people needed to find another outlet for their pent up frustrations and decided that OP was the next best thing. What some people have been doing for a while now is being nothing more than an eyesore as you whine for the sake of whining and you use that as an excuse to hide the reality you don't even bother thinking. It's like an automatic impulse: complain immediately.



I mean look at this ^, that doesn't even make any sense. Luffy was able to hit Dogtooth, meaning something was different and Luffy believes he knows what that is. This is one of the most fundamental basics of any kind of fight: find out the weakness of the opponent and exploit it. Your reaction? "That's whack AF". What?

This is the truth: there is nothing particularly unusual about this fight, you just want to whine. Yes this is a manga, so there's always a certain amount of things being 'manipulated', but you shouldn't pull this out of proportion. The way how some people here are dissing this fight is so narrow-minded, restrictive and even borderline draconian that if you would consistently apply this to any existing fight in any fictional series, almost all of them would be complete crap.

The fight is not the problem, it's this twisted and irrational way of viewing the fight that's wrong and there's quite an easy way to underline this. The most important thing we learned from this chapter is that Katakuri has some kind of weakness and Luffy figured out what that is. Now the most logical thing would be to discuss that potential weakness...something barely anyone has done in this thread. Instead it went immediately to "he's being nerfed". That's complete BS. You can only talk about nerfing if you actually know all the factors involved, which none of you do.

Now imagine for example that Dogtooth needs a huge sugar intake from time to time to function at full capacity. Oda often gives characters themes that are complementary with the character's ability. Like Perospero, a candyman who is licking a lollypop all the time. Now Dogtooth is made out of mochi, a substance that's most of the time sweet and thus sugary. So that he would be addicted to sweet stuff wouldn't be that much of a surprise and people who are full of sugar are highly active. However the moment such a sugar rush is over they become kinda sluggish. So what if Dogtooth's punctuality of eating his snacks at always the exact time isn't just to appear disciplined, but also to maximize his energy output?

Due to all the things that have happened his snack-time got delayed quite a bit. This would explain why Luffy was preforming better the longer the fight lasted as Dogtooth was being drained of his sugar and why he abruptly tried to end it by burying Luffy and then immediately started eating.

Is this true? I don't know, it might be complete bogus. I do know however that this is the kind of logic Oda often uses as it makes just enough sense to work and that it's something Luffy surely could figure out because he has got the same relationship with meat. This is how you should approach and discuss a chapter, but instead it's "oh no, he has a weakness, he got nerfed! Booooo". You're not even trying to think about the possibilities and that's just depressing. You just make arbitrary and questionable assumptions and then complain when they are not met.
I think when Katakuri's sugar intake is too low, he can't use both levels of Haki at the same time. Meaning that when he's using Haki to make Square Mochi, he can't use it to see the future or read movements clearly.
 

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OK. So according to Sawyer7mage, the possibility of level 2 Haki might exist. I hope Oda does hint to something like this. New levels of each Haki.
Seeing that Katakuri can see a small glimpse of the future and him tanking Luffy's Hardening Haki with ease, I think it would be awesome.

Oda could shake things up.
 

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OK. So according to Sawyer7mage, the possibility of level 2 Haki might exist. I hope Oda does hint to something like this. New levels of each Haki.
I think we absolutely know that Haki has "Level 2" to the forms. Luffy learned the "basics," so that's implicit that there's an "advanced" part to it.
 

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Seeing that Katakuri can see a small glimpse of the future and him tanking Luffy's Hardening Haki with ease, I think it would be awesome.

Oda could shake things up.
I think we absolutely know that Haki has "Level 2" to the forms. Luffy learned the "basics," so that's implicit that there's an "advanced" part to it.
Chapter 434

It bothered me since the meeting why Shanks' Haoshoku Haki feels so different than the others. Parts of the ship got little damage and it has to be from Shanks' Haoshuku Haki?
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