[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 879 Discussion and 880 Predictions

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Happen to remember the chapter I remember him punching her hand but I don't remember his body being in G4 when he did I seem to remember it being a G3 punch but we may be thinking of different moments.
This is the scene I remember


Nevermind I found it
Just when Big Mom called Luffy coward/spineless, at that moment Luffy used G4, but it was quite a brief moment to my guess for seconds. It's impossible for Katakuri to notice it during all the commotion.
 

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I gave it a 3, just because I wasn't satisfied with the fight between Dogtooth and Luffy. I don't like that Dogtooth was just mirroring each of Luffy's attacks. It's being treated like a copy of the Gomu Gomu, only slightly more powerful. Hopefully that changes in the next chapter. I did like Jinbe's speech about Pedro's sacrifice, but Perospero just regrowing his arm with candy annoys me.

EDIT: Ignore everything I said. I'd put my reasons here but it's worth a new post.
 
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It was a great chapter. I love how much Oda is emphasizing the bounty to indicate power level. Yet idiots on the base act like it's completely baseless.
 

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It was a great chapter. I love how much Oda is emphasizing the bounty to indicate power level. Yet idiots on the base act like it's completely baseless.
Bro, obviously bounty is completely unrelated to strength, and it's possible that a billion+ bounty man can be weaker than the likes of Sanji.

Also, look at how foolish Oda is being here. Apparently Oda didn't get the memo that bounty doesn't indicate strength.

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That's not correct. Luffy is skillful with his DF. It's not control he lacks. Technique that boosts up his power one more or other mode of G4 or use all GEARs. The possibilities vary. Sure Katakuri's body can stretch, but I doubt his body could handle inner pressure if copied Luffy's GEARs techniques.
Remember The early days of luff eating his fruit. He would just throw his fist and have it stretch out. Something all his techniques do it's not like he is extending his arm he is just throwing it. He is just throwing his body around
 

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Wow wow wow, what a chapter.

Jimbei's words were the best part of the chapter. Brook and Chopper were still ****ing around like they were in Paradise. Jimbei reminding them that it is kill or to be killed from this point in is pretty chilling. It also sounds like Oda will be more comfortable with killing off characters from now on since we're also getting closer to the end.

Also like how Jimbei flipped the perspective of how many casualties Luffy and co made by trashing the island. Shows the flip side of hte Strawhat actions that often not get explored. Perospero's arm is another example of that. It gives more meat to the story of the BM Family vs the Strawhats.

Sanji and Lola catching up was nice, also the Pudding interaction is amazing. I'm loving that Sanji still is on a solo mission, like he was for almost the entirety of the arc. He is on his best when he can be in his saboteur role.

Luffy vs Dogtooth this chapter was like a sped up version of the first few chapters against Doflamingo. He answers all the attacks in G2 and G3 and showing Luffy he is out of his depth.

I hope Oda is going to do something with G2 and G3, Because I don't want to see it turn into to Super Saiyan struggle where we need to go to the motions of every form every fight until he hit the most recent one.

I much rather see a G2 and G3 revamp than a G5 I would absolutely hate a Gear fifth unless it is waaay later in the story.
I love that you said that. I want each move to have its purpose as opposed to gear 4th being the trump all card and then gear 5th etc
 

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Remember The early days of luff eating his fruit. He would just throw his fist and have it stretch out. Something all his techniques do it's not like he is extending his arm he is just throwing it. He is just throwing his body around
You mean the early days when Luffy was seven after he ate the DF. Sure, Luffy spent quite a time and effort to set his mind and how to use GOMU in a proper way, but this is a rubber. The nature of Luffy's body doesn't resemble of that of Mr. Fantastic.
 

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It was a great chapter. I love how much Oda is emphasizing the bounty to indicate power level. Yet idiots on the base act like it's completely baseless.
bounty = amount of danger you are not strength! Hence Kidd, Jack etc. It can give clues to your strength but doesn't equate to it
 

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bounty = amount of danger you are not strength! Hence Kidd, Jack etc. It can give clues to your strength but doesn't equate to it
In what way is Katakuri like Kidd or Jack? He doesn't harm civilians like Kidd nor is he a sadistic beast like Jack.
Katakuri's bounty is indeed a representation of his strength.

Btw I am not saying Bounty = Strength but that logic does apply for Katakuri.
 

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You mean the early days when Luffy was seven after he ate the DF. Sure, Luffy spent quite a time and effort to set his mind and how to use GOMU in a proper way, but this is a rubber. The nature of Luffy's body doesn't resemble of that of Mr. Fantastic.
Look at the first move he ever did. Gum gum pistol it's him throwing his arm. And all attacks from then on are the same then. All his attacks are either an advanced pistol or bullet. Two techniques when he throws his arms around and or stretches out and then snaps his fist into something.

He doesn't just stretch out on command. Otherwise he wouldn't have to pump himself up for gear 3 or 2 he would just stretch out. And just because we don't see him inflate every time doesn't mean he doesn't as evidenced by gear 4. He literally has no control over his body he just throws his wieght around in the smartest way he can think of. It's not like he can just stretch into any shape he wants it's either a balloon or a rubber band. That's it. Look at the way he uses his body Vs other elastic characters from pop culture. Mrs incredible rubberman Mr fantastic. They all can take any shape they want on command but luffy is just brawling with rubber arms and legs.
 

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But but but Luffy is faster than Sanji and Sanji clearly dodged Katakuri's fastest attack no way Luffy will get blitzed/beat for pace.....lol jokes aside

OT: Saw this coming from a mile away(Luffy taking the L)....It was great seeing what Katakuri can do also we have found what Jinbei's title can be when if does join Strawhats...all in all great chapter 4/5 for me
 
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He doesn't just stretch out on command. Otherwise he wouldn't have to pump himself up for gear 3 or 2 he would just stretch out. And just because we don't see him inflate every time doesn't mean he doesn't as evidenced by gear 4. He literally has no control over his body he just throws his wieght around in the smartest way he can think of. It's not like he can just stretch into any shape he wants it's either a balloon or a rubber band. That's it. Look at the way he uses his body Vs other elastic characters from pop culture. Mrs incredible rubberman Mr fantastic. They all can take any shape they want on command but luffy is just brawling with rubber arms and legs.
I get what you try to say, but this is not about controlling GOMU. Luffy doesn't need to control GOMU because it's rubber. It is flexible. It turns back by itself into its original form. Elastigirl, Mr. Fantastic and Plastic-Man. The only common thing between them and Luffy is elasticity. They can control, but Luffy not, and basically is not needed in the first place.
 

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I get what you try to say, but this is not about controlling GOMU. Luffy doesn't need to control GOMU because it's rubber. It is flexible. It turns back by itself into its original form. Elastigirl, Mr. Fantastic and Plastic-Man. The only common thing between them and Luffy is elasticity. They can control, but Luffy not, and basically is not needed in the first place.
But think about how crazy efficient it would be if Luffy could control his fruit, Katakuri even said he was more efficient with his fruit in this chapter which gave him an edge. I think Luffy's awakening will be him being able to control his body and his fruit at a crazy level and this would give a great loophole to the 10 minute break he needs when using G4 because this would save him energy/stamina.
 

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But think about how crazy efficient it would be if Luffy could control his fruit, Katakuri even said he was more efficient with his fruit in this chapter which gave him an edge. I think Luffy's awakening will be him being able to control his body and his fruit at a crazy level and this would give a great loophole to the 10 minute break he needs when using G4 because this would save him energy/stamina.
Well, when it comes to DF Awakening, perhaps you better not keep your hopes up, because controlling an awakened DF is unknown. The only thing that many agree on is that awakening GOMU is powerful, and it never crossed anyone's mind about controlling it. Let's not compare GOMU and Mochi as if they're same. Katakuri may imitate Luffy, but it all comes down to elasticity. Luffy has it. Katakuri? Unlikely.

Katakuri's ability reminds me a lot of Gasparde (One Piece 4th Movie).
 

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bounty = amount of danger you are not strength! Hence Kidd, Jack etc. It can give clues to your strength but doesn't equate to it
It's not always but you can't accidentally be in a certain range for a bounty. Like no matter what Sanji does if he starts going rogue and killing ppl for no reason he will never be a 600 million guy because it's not that hard to take him down. There were ppl arguing that SC with higher bounties like a billion like in the case of katakuri. Like jack is a billion but the dude is violent and his bounty can reflect an exaggeration but there is nk way he's not a strong dude. Usually bounties give the readers what level a guy/girl is.
 

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I get what you try to say, but this is not about controlling GOMU. Luffy doesn't need to control GOMU because it's rubber. It is flexible. It turns back by itself into its original form. Elastigirl, Mr. Fantastic and Plastic-Man. The only common thing between them and Luffy is elasticity. They can control, but Luffy not, and basically is not needed in the first place.
It's been twice now that the big bad of an arc has told luffy he doesn't control his df well. It would be weird if it was never resolved.
 
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