[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 877 Discussion and 878 Predictions

[Punk Hazard]

Can you justify why Perospero deserves such a bounty? Katakuri's bounty for example is justified. What has Pero done exactly that is worthy of such a huge bounty lol

There are some people who have high bounties not for their power level but for being a threat to the government like Robin or for being a threat to the civilians like Jack or Kidd.

What has Pero done? He's not powerful or smart enough to be a threat to government itself so why does he have such a huge bounty?

Because the World Government sees him as a person dangerous enough for it. That's all there is to it.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Because the World Government sees him as a person dangerous enough for it. That's all there is to it.

It's kinda funny how much danger is in people who are for example Yonkou commanders having bounties exceed 500 million compare to people who have just knowledge that might bring the world to destruction and this knowledge is even WG worst nightmare like Robin and the Poneglyphe. And what's her bounty? 81 million to begin with? *shrug*

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's kinda funny how much danger is in people who are for example Yonkou commanders having bounties exceed 500 million compare to people who have just knowledge that might bring the world to destruction and this knowledge is even WG worst nightmare like Robin and the Poneglyphe. And what's her bounty? 81 million to begin with? *shrug*

Because while Robin possesses that knowledge, she hasn't actually been doing anything with that knowledge. If the WG finds out Robin is deciphering Poneglyphs, her bounty would increase. Bounties aren't just potential, Luffy was stated to have potential to be one of the most dangerous people on the planet, and his bounty didn't crack 500,000,000 at the time. Actions go into it as well.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Because while Robin possesses that knowledge, she hasn't actually been doing anything with that knowledge. If the WG finds out Robin is deciphering Poneglyphs, her bounty would increase. Bounties aren't just potential, Luffy was stated to have potential to be one of the most dangerous people on the planet, and his bounty didn't crack 500,000,000 at the time. Actions go into it as well.

I don't think the WG mind-set works with "if so and so, then so and so" when it comes to void century. From the look of things even if Robin has no interest in resurrecting the ancient weapons, she's already in the WG death list. If that's how WG mind set is, they should label her next to World's Most Wanted Man.

 

[arv993]

Because it's not a power level.

its a threat level and for most characters threat level is indicated by strength. One can exaggerate his/her bounty by being more violent but there is a cap to it. You cant be super easy to put down and have a high bounty except for characters like robin or someone with knowledge. Pero is not known to have any characteristics like that so he is either actually decently strong or its bad writing/mistake by oda.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I don't think the WG mind-set works with "if so and so, then so and so" when it comes to void century. From the look of things even if Robin has no interest in resurrecting the ancient weapons, she's already in the WG death list. If that's how WG mind set is, they should label her next to World's Most Wanted Man.

As far as I can remember the WG only knows she was an Oharan not necessarily how much she knew.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

As far as I can remember the WG only knows she was an Oharan not necessarily how much she knew.

Clover and Spandine along with other CP9 agents heard Robin saying to her mother that she can read Poneglyphe. That info itself was enough to label Robin as criminal not because she's an Ohara survivor.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Clover and Spandine along with other CP9 agents heard Robin saying to her mother that she can read Poneglyphe. That info itself was enough to label Robin as criminal not because she's an Ohara survivor.

That's my point they know she knows some stuff so she warrants a bounty but they don't know exactly how much so it's not a high bounty that's why she wasn't placed right along Dragon from the start.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

That's my point they know she knows some stuff so she warrants a bounty but they don't know exactly how much so it's not a high bounty that's why she wasn't placed right along Dragon from the start.

Yeah. This makes sense. So the day Robin gets to the truth, her bounty should be decent and I mean a decent +1 billion. If World's Destruction isn't enough to get her that bounty, I dunno what it is.

 

[milkydean]

Perospero is 700 million?? Oh comon Oda!
Didnt Ichiji with his raid suit blitz Pero?. Pero is fodder. Sanji can one shot him.
Why does fodder Pero get a bigger bounty than Sabo??

Wait what?Pero a fodder?Pero defeated both Brook and Chopper with no difficulty,easily evaded and was stomping Pedro whose bounty is around 350M.How is he fodder?

 

[OG sama]

I hope Pedro doesn't die.

But it would only make sense if he died considering the speech he gave and his lifespan and all.

I can only hope he takes PedoPedo with him.

I always talked about how Oda doesn't have the guts to kill off good guys but I think he's going to do it this time unfortunately, this doesn't feel like another Pell situation to me.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I get the feeling that someone is gonna use the "blame card" on Luffy for Pedro's death if Pedro died that is. I dunno. Is Nami gonna tell Luffy to get serious?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't think the WG mind-set works with "if so and so, then so and so" when it comes to void century. From the look of things even if Robin has no interest in resurrecting the ancient weapons, she's already in the WG death list. If that's how WG mind set is, they should label her next to World's Most Wanted Man.

Of course it does. Luffy's bounty has yet to reach the potential characters like Akainu and Mihawk has seen seen him. By your own logic, Robin should have the highest bounty. The fact that she doesn't shows your logic doesn't apply to the manga.

its a threat level and for most characters threat level is indicated by strength. One can exaggerate his/her bounty by being more violent but there is a cap to it. You cant be super easy to put down and have a high bounty except for characters like robin or someone with knowledge. Pero is not known to have any characteristics like that so he is either actually decently strong or its bad writing/mistake by oda.

Nope. It's not a coincidence that the characters that put the most stock in bounties are also extremely arrogant. Perospero brought up bounties and what happened to him? He was caught off guard by Pedro's bomb because his arrogance got the better of him and left him open. Bellamy's crew laughed at Luffy because of his bounty and ended up embarrassed. Oda has shown time and time again that putting this much stock into bounties is something a fool does. Look at Jack, when Sheepshead gloated about Jack's bounty, Jack called him an idiot, yet you people flip your shit when someone's bounty doesn't seem that high.

This "Threat caps with danger and then falls on strength" shit is nonsense you made up, and the manga has never given such indication. It was even outright stated by Shakky that Kid's bounty skyrockted due to him slaughtering innocent people. It's high time we stopped this nonsense as a fandom.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Of course it does. Luffy's bounty has yet to reach the potential characters like Akainu and Mihawk has seen seen him. By your own logic, Robin should have the highest bounty. The fact that she doesn't shows your logic doesn't apply to the manga.



Nope. It's not a coincidence that the characters that put the most stock in bounties are also extremely arrogant. Perospero brought up bounties and what happened to him? He was caught off guard by Pedro's bomb because his arrogance got the better of him and left him open. Bellamy's crew laughed at Luffy because of his bounty and ended up embarrassed. Oda has shown time and time again that putting this much stock into bounties is something a fool does. Look at Jack, when Sheepshead gloated about Jack's bounty, Jack called him an idiot, yet you people flip your shit when someone's bounty doesn't seem that high.

This "Threat caps with danger and then falls on strength" shit is nonsense you made up, and the manga has never given such indication. It was even outright stated by Shakky that Kid's bounty skyrockted due to him slaughtering innocent people. It's high time we stopped this nonsense as a fandom.

Plus it's not like the WG would accurately know all of these pirates current true strength levels when making these bounties based on reports. When the WG heard about EL they knew Luffy was a big threat but they didn't know his strength levels so they couldn't create a bounty to reflect his strength.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Plus it's not like the WG would accurately know all of these pirates current true strength levels when making these bounties based on reports. When the WG heard about EL they knew Luffy was a big threat but they didn't know his strength levels so they couldn't create a bounty to reflect his strength.

Exactly. A lot of bounties represent potential to cause mayhem and distress to the general public. I don't understand why one would ask "What has Pero done this arc to justify his bounty," as though Pero got his bounty this arc. Obviously, whatever he did, it was done in the past and reflects him as dangerous, which isn't 1:1 with strength.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

No idea. Katakuri's powers have made less and less sense since it was retconned into a special Paramecia imo

Katakuri's DF is a logia in all but name. Oda retconned the Mochi Mochi no Mi into a Logia because he remembered that Logias can only be natural elements, but he should have just retconned the idea that Logias can only be natural elements.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Katakuri's DF is a logia in all but name. Oda retconned the Mochi Mochi no Mi into a Logia because he remembered that Logias can only be natural elements, but he should have just retconned the idea that Logias can only be natural elements.

100% agree. Expanding the limits of what a Logia like this could be would be way better than this special Paramecia stuff because while he's expanding what Paramecia can be, he's doing so by infringing on the borders between Logia and Paramecia. Surprised Oda went for such a decision.

 

[Caliburn]

It's kinda funny how much danger is in people who are for example Yonkou commanders having bounties exceed 500 million compare to people who have just knowledge that might bring the world to destruction and this knowledge is even WG worst nightmare like Robin and the Poneglyphe. And what's her bounty? 81 million to begin with? *shrug*

You can't forget here that Robin was a child at the time. It would be highly conspicuous if out of the blue a small girl would gain a one billion bounty. To justify that 81 million bounty they had to make up the story that she sunk several battleships on top of slandering the reputation of her entire home island. So the kind of story they would have to concoct up to match something like a one billion bounty would be so outrageous that it might make certain people start thinking.

The last thing the WG wants to do is making Robin too 'popular' as it might attract people who realize the truth or at least question the WG's reasons and want to use her abilities, which is exactly what happened. Crocodile recruited her for ability to read poneglyph while Tom and Iceberg realized what she could do.

And most likely the WG also thought that a small girl wouldn't be too hard too catch, so no reason to place a too high of bounty on her. That she went completely off the grid for years after being hunted down endlessly might have made them think she was dead or at least not directly harmful and thus no need to emphasize too much on her existence. Only after she became a Strawhat her bounty was increased, but this was most likely to reflect her status as being a Strawhat.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

By the way, perhaps we can't compare Pedro's situation with Pell, because Pell is Zoan user? Perhaps being a Zoan user and having quick heal is how Pell survived the bomb's explosion, so it looks like Pedro is dead for real, and if this happens, I guess we'll see massacre in One Piece. A lot of good people will die.

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You can't forget here that Robin was a child at the time.

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It would be highly conspicuous if out of the blue a small girl would gain a one billion bounty. To justify that 81 million bounty they had to make up the story that she sunk several battleships on top of slandering the reputation of her entire home island. So the kind of story they would have to concoct up to match something like a one billion bounty would be so outrageous that it might make certain people start thinking.

The last thing the WG wants to do is making Robin too 'popular' as it might attract people who realize the truth or at least question the WG's reasons and want to use her abilities, which is exactly what happened. Crocodile recruited her for ability to read poneglyph while Tom and Iceberg realized what she could do.

And most likely the WG also thought that a small girl wouldn't be too hard too catch, so no reason to place a too high of bounty on her. That she went completely off the grid for years after being hunted down endlessly might have made them think she was dead or at least not directly harmful and thus no need to emphasize too much on her existence. Only after she became a Strawhat her bounty was increased, but this was most likely to reflect her status as being a Strawhat.

OK. Fair enough.

 

[arv993]

Of course it does. Luffy's bounty has yet to reach the potential characters like Akainu and Mihawk has seen seen him. By your own logic, Robin should have the highest bounty. The fact that she doesn't shows your logic doesn't apply to the manga.



Nope. It's not a coincidence that the characters that put the most stock in bounties are also extremely arrogant. Perospero brought up bounties and what happened to him? He was caught off guard by Pedro's bomb because his arrogance got the better of him and left him open. Bellamy's crew laughed at Luffy because of his bounty and ended up embarrassed. Oda has shown time and time again that putting this much stock into bounties is something a fool does. Look at Jack, when Sheepshead gloated about Jack's bounty, Jack called him an idiot, yet you people flip your shit when someone's bounty doesn't seem that high.

This "Threat caps with danger and then falls on strength" shit is nonsense you made up, and the manga has never given such indication. It was even outright stated by Shakky that Kid's bounty skyrockted due to him slaughtering innocent people. It's high time we stopped this nonsense as a fandom.

Some people with bounties are arrogant that point is not disproving what I am saying. You can extend your bounty by being a murderous person but you can't reach the likes of 1 billion or really high bounties if you are lets say someone around pedro's level. you can be put down easier. And luffy was an up and coming rookie so him being underestimated would happen. I f you have a ridiculous bounty chances are you arent weak.

If you are going to use quotations to say my words at least do it right. but maybe asking you to be genuine is to asking too much