Idk know off the top of my head give me a bit I'll get back I just remember it was the end of that story when they were leaving they were gonna be eaten by a fish but the giants told them to sail straight then they both attacked and split the fish in the middle(or maybe blew a hole through it don't remember)
The anime scene is easier to find right now
[video=youtube;D-0YPi1oRvY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0YPi1oRvY[/video]
Looks like they made a hole just like BM's attack did. I think it's just air pressure but not sure.
Found it, it was chapter 129 They even mention the Kingdom just like she did. Really makes me wonder if she can't absorb powers/skills by eating someone.
As for Zeus, he's made from Mama's soul, so of course eating something is going to affect him like we saw it do. He's also been portrayed as rather dim, especially going by his facial expressions, so y'all are confused over nothing.
Nah it wasn't confusing, it was just piss poor, I compared it to fairy tail, cos that's where stuffs like this happen, serious situations being defused with joke like elements.
Also, where did you get the Zeus was dim thing? He's been behaving like the other homies (repeating what others say and all).
@bold, yeah right, next, we're going to give Prometheus fire and he'll become an ally too.
On another note, so homies have a mind of their own and they don't fret when they get eaten and all, interesting.
Nah it wasn't confusing, it was just piss poor, I compared it to fairy tail, cos that's where stuffs like this happen, serious situations being defused with joke like elements.
lmao yeah, so? Zeus, Promotheus, and Napolean showed having similar aspects to Big Mom's personality during their "fight" with the SHs when they wanted to get Brook back, so what are you complaining about?
Idk know off the top of my head give me a bit I'll get back I just remember it was the end of that story when they were leaving they were gonna be eaten by a fish but the giants told them to sail straight then they both attacked and split the fish in the middle(or maybe blew a hole through it don't remember)
The anime scene is easier to find right now
[video=youtube;D-0YPi1oRvY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0YPi1oRvY[/video]
Looks like they made a hole just like BM's attack did. I think it's just air pressure but not sure.
Found it, it was chapter 129 They even mention the Kingdom just like she did. Really makes me wonder if she can't absorb powers/skills by eating someone.
That's stupid crazy. She consumes people and gain their strengths and powers from them? Like Blackbeard on steroids?
As a 5 year old kid she one-shot a giant which luffy couldn't do in elbaf, so that strength plus the strength of a giant is just outstanding.
Judging by his dazed facial expression to everything, yeah, he's pretty dim.
lmao yeah, so? Zeus, Promotheus, and Napolean showed having similar aspects to Big Mom's personality during their "fight" with the SHs when they wanted to get Brook back, so what are you complaining about?
@bold you're kidding right? I can't think of a single time this has happened.
@second part, Zeus' facial expressions have not been different from Promethus', his face has shown a range of emotions from being stoned to being angry. Don't get why you think the dazed expression he showed makes him dim witted.
@3rd part you're totally missing the point. I'm saying it's lame, that it's used this way.
Also, they didn't show similar aspects to BM, if I know the part you were referring to, it was when they were attacking a fly when BM was asleep, what they showed was their will to protect BM.
@bold you're kidding right? I can't think of a single time this has happened.
@second part, Zeus' facial expressions have not been different from Promethus', his face has shown a range of emotions from being stoned to being angry. Don't get why you think the dazed expression he showed makes him dim witted.
@3rd part you're totally missing the point. I'm saying it's lame, that it's used this way.
Also, they didn't show similar aspects to BM, if I know the part you were referring to, it was when they were attacking a fly when BM was asleep, what they showed was their will to protect BM.
That's stupid crazy. She consumes people and gain their strengths and powers from them? Like Blackbeard on steroids?
As a 5 year old kid she one-shot a giant which luffy couldn't do in elbaf, so that strength plus the strength of a giant is just outstanding.
It's the only thing that really makes sense at this point, to me at least. We saw her eat Mother Caramel presumably then she was able to use the soul soul fruit but we were never shown her eating the fruit so how did that work. We know she was run out of Elbaf at an early age 5 or 6 so how could she have learned the attack from a giant? Well we know she destroyed one city in a food frenzy it's probable she ate at least one giant in that rampage and she ate the kids with Mother Caramel some of whom were giants, though they wouldn't really have that skill in them at that point.
Some people are saying it's PIS that Katakuri is just sitting on the Sunny instead of destroying it and sinking it right then and there.. completely preventing the SH's from escaping entirely..
Some people are saying it's PIS that Katakuri is just sitting on the Sunny instead of destroying it and sinking it right then and there.. completely preventing the SH's from escaping entirely..
Some people are saying it's PIS that Katakuri is just sitting on the Sunny instead of destroying it and sinking it right then and there.. completely preventing the SH's from escaping entirely..
But that's only the hull (iirc), also Luffy was able to destroy a part of the ship when he was cooking, so it's something a few cannon balls will sink.
Some people are saying it's PIS that Katakuri is just sitting on the Sunny instead of destroying it and sinking it right then and there.. completely preventing the SH's from escaping entirely..
Zoro vs Kaku were filled with moments like these, such as when Zoro was screaming at him for naming his techniques in the middle of the fight, and for having "Square" techniques.
Sanji vs Jabra when Jabra attempted to fool Sanji with his story and Sanji comedically attacked him. Another moment of comedy in this, Sanji vs Kalifa where he kept calling for "points" just to get kicked in the balls, and making perverted advances during the fight.
Luffy vs Lucci had these when Luffy in chibi mode punched Lucci in his nose after he used Gear Three. Also Luffy vs Blueno when Blueno used the revolving door on his face. Oda even directly stated that the reason he gave Luffy the Gomu Gomu no Mi, of all fruits, is because he wants his readers to always be able to laugh during Luffy's fights no matter how serious they get.
There's Thriller Bark with moments like Robin refusing to do the docking, Franky building stairs in midair, and all of the Strawhats reacting like Chopper does when the inhabitants praise them to Kuma.
Even Marineford, the most serious arc of all, was undercut with comedic moments, like the way Luffy's gang fell from the iceberg and Buggy constantly putting himself on the video transponder. The only tense moment in One Piece that wasn't undercut with some kind of humor was the Strawhat separation by Kuma.
@second part, Zeus' facial expressions have not been different from Promethus', his face has shown a range of emotions from being stoned to being angry. Don't get why you think the dazed expression he showed makes him dim witted.
Nope. Promotheus always has a wide-eyed bright expression, while Zeus' are always with half-closed, dazed eyes, a tell-tale sign of being dimwitted. You can also see it from his demeanor and childish manner of speaking, which especially apparent during his conversation with Nami where he asks her for more clouds like a little boy.
@3rd part you're totally missing the point. I'm saying it's lame, that it's used this way.
If Oda undercutting a serious moment with humor is lame to you, then I have no idea how the **** you got this far in One Piece in the first place.
Also, they didn't show similar aspects to BM, if I know the part you were referring to, it was when they were attacking a fly when BM was asleep, what they showed was their will to protect BM.
They showed the same absent-mindedness as Big Mom though, since ALL four of them(the three Special Homies and Mama) all attacked the "fly" with the same demeanor.
Some people are saying it's PIS that Katakuri is just sitting on the Sunny instead of destroying it and sinking it right then and there.. completely preventing the SH's from escaping entirely..
Katakuri isn't destroying the ship because he sees the problem as Luffy. His intentions are to kill Luffy, and Luffy has Big Mom himself to his back, and to his front an ambush with 10,000 soldiers ready at any moment to pounce on him while Katakuri is there. Destroying the ship would tip off the Strawhats that something was wrong. The LAST thing they need is for the Strawhats to be more unpredictable like they were at the wedding, which led to disaster. So why destroy the ship and leave it to random where they'll go and what they'll do, when you can guarantee where they'll go, and box them in like rats?
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The only tense moment in One Piece that wasn't undercut with some kind of humor was the Strawhat separation by Kuma.
Nope. Promotheus always has a wide-eyed bright expression, while Zeus' are always with half-closed, dazed eyes, a tell-tale sign of being dimwitted. You can also see it from his demeanor and childish manner of speaking, which especially apparent during his conversation with Nami where he asks her for more clouds like a little boy.
If Oda undercutting a serious moment with humor is lame to you, then I have no idea how the **** you got this far in One Piece in the first place.
They showed the same absent-mindedness as Big Mom though, since ALL four of them(the three Special Homies and Mama) all attacked the "fly" with the same demeanor.
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Wtf are you saying? All the example you gave didn't improve the situation, they were just comic, this improved the situation drastically, first off BM fell off her mount and could no longer give chase, she also lost her ability to use lightning attacks, then we've also got Zeus covering the sky and which will potentially help Nami next chapter. Now look back at all the examples you gave and tell me how they are similar to this situation.
@bold you need to reread the arc, he showed varied expressions, especially in the example you gave where they attacked the fly, he was serious (bordering on angry).
@green, yeah right, act butthurt. How you don't see having Zeus has more than humour is beyond me.
@red so you're saying they are similar to BM and yet one of them decides to cozy up to the very people BM is incensed with. Ok. ?
Katakuri isn't destroying the ship because he sees the problem as Luffy. His intentions are to kill Luffy, and Luffy has Big Mom himself to his back, and to his front an ambush with 10,000 soldiers ready at any moment to pounce on him while Katakuri is there. Destroying the ship would tip off the Strawhats that something was wrong. The LAST thing they need is for the Strawhats to be more unpredictable like they were at the wedding, which led to disaster. So why destroy the ship and leave it to random where they'll go and what they'll do, when you can guarantee where they'll go, and box them in like rats?
I have to disagree. How would the SH's get tipped off exactly? It's not like they would be able to see Katakuri destroying the ship, while they are stuck in the forest. So they would have no clue and still be running towards the ship regardless of that.
By the time they realise, they would have to be within a fairly close range of the ship, because the sea was quite close to the edge of the forest if I remember correctly. (Although, granted, it does move around)
So they would basically run out of the forest and be confronted with no ship and Katakuri and Co. waiting for them. Not really much of a chance for them to escape anywhere else in that situation.
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Wtf are you saying? All the example you gave didn't improve the situation, they were just comic, this improved the situation drastically, first off BM fell off her mount and could no longer give chase, she also lost her ability to use lightning attacks, then we've also got Zeus covering the sky and which will potentially help Nami next chapter. Now look back at all the examples you gave and tell me how they are similar to this situation.
Oh, you mean like when Luffy figured out how to resist Crocodile's powers, something important to the fight, and it was done in comedic fashion?
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Or when Luffy and Galdino figured out how to turn the tides against Magellan, and Oda played it for laughs?
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Or when Oda defused the serious situation of Enel's invincibility with a humorous display of Luffy being immune to his powers:
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Or this
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Or when Oda undercut Usopp's immunity to Perona's ghosts, a serious situation since it took Zoro and Sanji out of commission, with a comedic face from Perona
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Or the ghosts becoming negative in the next chapter
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There's also Gear Fourth being made purposefully goofy as hell for jokes, and Oda stating that he gave Luffy rubber powers because he wants his fights to always be able to make people laugh.
Looking back at these examples, what you're complaining about isn't even valid because Nami taking control of Zeus wasn't as comedic as any of these solutions Oda presented.
@bold you need to reread the arc, he showed varied expressions, especially in the example you gave where they attacked the fly, he was serious (bordering on angry).
Various expressions, and retained the dopey eyes through them unless he transformed. Like how you completely ignored that he speaks like a child as well, especially while talking to Nami.
@green, yeah right, act butthurt. How you don't see having Zeus has more than humour is beyond me.
The only butthurt here is yours about this situation, really. As the selections I posted before, Oda introducing a problem and then presenting a solution in a comedic manner is something he's been doing forever. Hence my statement: If that kind of bothers you, I have no idea how the **** you got this far in One Piece, cause it's everywhere.
@red so you're saying they are similar to BM and yet one of them decides to cozy up to the very people BM is incensed with. Ok. ??????
I have to disagree. How would the SH's get tipped off exactly? It's not like they would be able to see Katakuri destroying the ship, while they are stuck in the forest. So they would have no clue and still be running towards the ship regardless of that.
By the time they realise, they would have to be within a fairly close range of the ship, because the sea was quite close to the edge of the forest if I remember correctly. (Although, granted, it does move around)
So they would basically run out of the forest and be confronted with no ship and Katakuri and Co. waiting for them. Not really much of a chance for them to escape anywhere else in that situation.
Nope. The Strawhats have a direct line of sight to the Sunny
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Promotheus attacks King Baum, sending flames through the forest
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The BM pirates then start sending status reports after this attack is made, evident from the text bubble at the top of the page that says "Flames are coming from the Seducing Woods."
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During these status reports, which occurs after Promotheus attacks, BM pirates are emerging from the mirrors, arriving on the ship.
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Katakuri's group arrived on the Sunny AFTER Luffy and the others already caught sight of the Sunny, so them destroying it would have been seen by them.
Not only that, but what made the Strawhats dangerous during the wedding were they were unpredictable. The situation was uncontrollable and chaotic. For someone like Katakuri, that relies on seeing the future as an advantage, it makes absolutely perfect sense that he would reduce the number of variables as much as possible. By leaving the Sunny intact and waiting inside, it guarantees the Strawhats will run to the Sunny. By leaving the Sunny intact, Katakuri is controlling the situation by tricking them into a trap. The alternative creates too many variables, which favors the SHs.
Lol, they were half asleep and couldn't see into the mirror world.
But that's only the hull (iirc), also Luffy was able to destroy a part of the ship when he was cooking, so it's something a few cannon balls will sink.
Even if they didn't sink it they could have moved it.
The wood is capable of withstanding cannonballs and gun fire quite easily showing little wear over time.[1] However, even ships built out of this wood need a shipwright to look after them, as it is not completely invincible.
Adam Wood is one of the most resistant woods out there according to the manga so far so no, a few cannon balls wouldn't sink it. It'd take something high level to break the ship.
I don't get why so many people have a problem or make a blow up the Nami/Zeus situation. Talking about plotshields etc.
Nami distracting Zeus is just done in One Piece comedy fashion. But if you look a bit closer it's just the illusion of being helpful because Big Mom is still on their tails and Katakuri is on their ship.
So Oda never planned for the SH's to get away with a cheap and silly trick. Therefore all the comparisons with Fairy Tail fall flat. Because if this was Fairy Tail. Luffy would've beaten Big Mom 20 chapters ago in 12 panels or less.
