[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 851 Discussion and 852 Predictions

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ToshiZO

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Character development and depiction is a topic worthy of depth?



The reasons are obvious, and yet you still go about wah-wah'ing about how it was "Pudding, just Pudding, all Pudding, look at what he's doing over Pudding."
No shit the reasons are obvious. Why are we acting like this is the da vinci code? Give yourself a pat on the back for knowing this underlying message. It's accumulated, doesn't excuse Oda's depiction of his reaction to her betrayal.

Like I already said, it was unnecessary we already got a visual of Sanji being broken down. The extra bit was done for theatrics, not some "underlying message" like you love to claim.
 

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No shit the reasons are obvious. Why are we acting like this is the da vinci code?
Do...do you think layered and depth is the same thing as something being subtle and hidden? Because, something can have layers and depth that's obvious.

Like I already said, it was unnecessary we already got a visual of Sanji being broken down.
Well, what it is, Toshi? Is it unnecessary or is it because it was over a girl? Don't hurt yourself deciding.
 

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Well, what it is, Toshi? Is it unnecessary or is it because it was over a girl? Don't hurt yourself deciding.
Unnecessary for it to be done for this situation.

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I hope Sanji didn't leave without hearing Pudding's abilities? Smh if he did...
 

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Having a breakdown isn't looking like a *****, Sanji is still a person who has feelings and emotions, and the current state of events is too much for his psyche. For one, he is forced to interact and deal with the same people who TORTURED him during his childhood, even being around your abuser can cause distress, let alone being for to do their every whim. Two, in this mayhem, he saw Pudding, through the storm he tried to fixate his attention on the one thing he thought would make him even slightly happy, and it turns out that ray of hope was artificial and false, further messing him up.

I don't understand why people are mad a Sanji for acting like a normal human being in the face of adversity. It's fairly obvious that all his is for development purposes and he'll bounce back and be better than before.
You said it, man. Sanji is one of the best characters in the story. Very sad childhood, but Luffy gives him hope. He's sad right now, but he'll spring into his self soon enough.
 

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Sanji did well holding back his tears while the girl who he entrusted everything of his emotions continually destroyed it piece by piece and as a last resort he reached out to his pocket to the thing that makes him happy when everything is not - his lighter and yet even that failed him thats where he blew up.

Damn Oda that was a great portrayal I dont know why these other people here thinks it was badly drawn and it made Sanji a **** character but the toughest man in the world has something that he hold dearly to him and when even that fails him then even the toughest breaks down to showing a snot in his nose, in this case it was Sanji's lighter. His lighter comforted him when times are tough and celebrated with him when times are great, when the merry sank - he lit up a smoke, when they can't possibly defeat enel - he lit up a smoke, when he saved the crew as Mr. Prince - he lit up a smoke and now where a woman who he truly loved destroyed him his lighter wasnt there for him damn i cant even imagine how broken he is right now.

OT: Anyways im really intrigued now what jimbie had sacrificed for his freedom after the roulette, he has both his arms-which is good and his face doesnt lack a thing-which is good maybe his feet? or his lifetime. VERY NICE CHAPTER KUDOS TO ODA!

PS: I hope sanji gets a new haircut after this to show how hes changed like a bun or something idk why but i think itll suit him.
Glad somebody got it.. You can tell he was holding back his tears so much
 

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You can't read? I just said the situation (which Pudding was the center of).
Normally I wouldn't even bother logging in instead I would just read certain members' posts/reviews about the chapter but I just have to say this. You are one dense and annoying mofo. Get out of the thread if you dislike sanji so much. Idiot
 

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Normally I wouldn't even bother logging in instead I would just read certain members' posts/reviews about the chapter but I just have to say this. You are one dense and annoying mofo. Get out of the thread if you dislike sanji so much. Idiot
Glad you took the time to login to say something so valuable, now do me a favour and log back out.
 

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Glad you took the time to login to say something so valuable, now do me a favour and log back out.
Toshi, you've singlehandedly turned a "Prediction Thread" into an argument about a fictional character that only exists in Eichiro Oda's head. Good job, stranger. I bet you feel real proud of yourself.
 

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Toshi, you've singlehandedly turned a "Prediction Thread" into an argument about a fictional character that only exists in Eichiro Oda's head. Good job, stranger. I bet you feel real proud of yourself.
This is chapter 851 discussion if you didn't know. Besides what are you trying to say here? An argument only lasts if there are people to argue with in the first place, I stated an opinion I guess people couldn't help but get disturbed over it? What is this, a circle jerk thread where everyone has to agree and hail the maker?

Besides you made an account on a cartoon forum, we are literally here to discuss these fictional characters "that only exist in Oda's head".
 

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This is chapter 851 discussion if you didn't know.Besides what are you trying to say here? An argument only lasts if there are people to argue with in the first place, I stated an opinion I guess people couldn't help but get disturbed over it? What is this, a circle jerk thread where everyone has to agree and hail the maker?

Besides you made an account on a cartoon forum, we are literally here to discuss these fictional characters "that only exist in Oda's head".
It doesn't matter anyhow. The bickering about how this chapter went (which was ****ing amazing, tbh) won't, in any way, affect Oda's imagination. He's going to do what he's going to do with the story no matter how we feel about it.
 

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It doesn't matter anyhow. The bickering about how this chapter went (which was ****ing amazing, tbh) won't, in any way, affect Oda's imagination. He's going to do what he's going to do with the story no matter how we feel about it.
Yes because I think Oda is reading my posts, and will change the manga accordingly. C'mon now lmfao, what are you even getting at? I'm reacting to a chapter, how bout we stop talking about me, and focus on the content?
 
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Toshi I wish this forum had more people like you. You actually see through one piece's contrived crap used to simplify things for certain fans. Then they get so hung together on your opinion because you criticized their precious one piece. I ke one piece but its immature fandom and it being overrated can ruin it for you if you don't ignore them.
 
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It is pretty amusing how belligerent some Sanji fans get when someone expresses a dislike for the direction Oda took Sanji this arc.

And for the record, Sanji didn't break down because he found out he never had Pudding, he broke down because he realized his attempt to sacrifice himself was for naught. Now he's realizing what some of us have been saying, that his reliance on a strangers kindness was the wrong call and he should have risked it all with his crew.
 
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