[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 848 Discussion and 849 Predictions

[Itachi Minato]

Fair enough what your saying is true but sanji is thinking of a way of getting out this and the only way is for him to give himself up that's why he went to speak with big mom and try and negotiate with her and she gave her word that if all goes well should would let his crew go free and zeff would be safe, and be able to leave whole cake island with their lives even if it's by force they would still leave with their lives. In this situation negotiation was the better choice instead of trying to war with big mom on her territory even luffy tried to sneak in to whole cake by himself with pekoms he didn't want a war right now. Also luffy has alleys but luffy doesn't control them he didn't even want the fleet he values them friends not his subordinates he wouldn't ask anyone to stay in east blue and give up their adventures to protect someone. And my apologies false accusations was a poor way of stating things

I know Sanjis thinking a way out of this. I just don't like the fact hes doing nothing. Sanji is not supposed to be a helpless member of the SH that's Nami, Ussop and Chopper. I actually don't like the way Oda has written this. I don't like the fact Sanji is so helpless and that's why I am thinking of what he could be doing. However, my main problem is actually with Sanji thinking Luffy is going to leave. We all know that will never happen. People keep saying Sanji has no other option but for me that is not an option either. I just think more of his character.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Actually I can and everybody does. You do not judge the decisions that Sanji and Zoro make the same. If Zoro decided not to fight against a women because it is a women I would think less of him. Wouldn't think any less of Sanji. Same thing with the nose bleeds

@Bold: When the context of the two situations are the same(even more so if it's the exact same situation), yes, you do.

Sanji and Zoro have the exact same reasoning behind what they wanted to do and the context of the situations are the same. That's why it's hypocritical.

If Zoro thought that Luffy would actually leave Sanji behind then he is an idiot. Happy? Also, Zoro never meant to leave him permanently anyway. He probably meant lets deal with Kaidou and then we will handle Sanji. Sanji is talking about having to leave permanently. I also don't think Zoro actually expected Luffy to do it. He was giving his opinion.

"Oi, drop it Luffy!" isn't "Yo this is my opinion," it's "I want you to do this right now." You're deluding yourself more than Sanji is if you're really trying to downplay the intensity of that moment and of Zoro's words.

 

[Itachi Minato]

@Bold: When the context of the two situations are the same(even more so if it's the exact same situation), yes, you do.

Sanji and Zoro have the exact same reasoning behind what they wanted to do and the context of the situations are the same. That's why it's hypocritical.



"Oi, drop it Luffy!" isn't "Yo this is my opinion," it's "I want you to do this right now." You're deluding yourself more than Sanji is if you're really trying to downplay the intensity of that moment and of Zoro's words.

Do you seriously believe that Zoro expected Luffy to permanently leave Sanji behind and the SH move on without him? The context of the situation in my example is the same. If Zoro came up against Califa and didn't fight her I would think less of him.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Do you seriously believe that Zoro expected Luffy to permanently leave Sanji behind and the SH move on without him? The context of the situation in my example is the same. If Zoro came up against Califa and didn't fight her I would think less of him.

Permanently? Probably not. But it doesn't change that he expected Luffy to leave Sanji period. If the problem you have is a character not understanding that Luffy wouldn't leave a nakama behind, even temporarily, and you're only applying that dislike to one of two characters that are exhibiting that trait you have a problem with, then you're a hypocritical fanboy. Plain and simple.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Permanently? Probably not. But it doesn't change that he expected Luffy to leave Sanji period. If the problem you have is a character not understanding that Luffy wouldn't leave a nakama behind, even temporarily, and you're only applying that dislike to one of two characters that are exhibiting that trait you have a problem with, then you're a hypocritical fanboy. Plain and simple.

Except that I am not. If zoro actually thought Luffy then I have already said that he's an idiot. Am I a also a fanboy of Sanji then because I would respect zoro less if he let califa beat him but don't sanji?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Except that I am not. If zoro actually thought Luffy then I have already said that he's an idiot. Am I a also a fanboy of Sanji then because I would respect zoro less if he let califa beat him but don't sanji?

Yeah.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Yeah.

Guess I am a Sanji fanboy then.

 

[LBeezy]

Guess I am a Sanji fanboy then.

I don't think you are..