[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 838 Discussion and 839 Predictions

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One King Kong Gun taking out Doflamingo is flawed. You say that because 100% of the time that Doflamingo has encountered KKG he's lost to it, he will always be knocked out when hit by it, even at full power.

By this same logic, 100% of the time Zoro has encountered the Yeti Cool Brothers, he's lost to them. Therefore, he would lose to them right now in one shot, because that's what's happened 100% of the time. 100% of the time he and Sanji have encountered the bomb of the Yeti Cool Brothers, it knocked them out cold in one hit. Therefore, the bomb of the Yeti Cool Brothers>Sanji and Zoro 100% of the time.

100% of the time Zoro has encountered Rob Lucci, he was defeated in one move. Therefore, Zoro will always be one-shotted by Rob Lucci.

See how retarded it sounds to call one instance of something happening "100% of the time" and then saying that's what will happen 100% of the time?

Not to mention that KKG drained Luffy of the Haki he had to go Gear Fourth, implying that it uses the same amount of energy as the rest of the Gear Fourth assault. And while that means KKG has an obscene and tremendous amount of power, it also indicates that one KKG isn't enough to defeat Doflamingo because the assault that takes up the same amount of energy as KKG failed to do so.
It doesn't work like that bro.

Luffy and Doflamingo went all out for the last attack, giving it all they had.. not at all like the Yeti cool bros. incident.. unless you're implying that Zoro was using Asura or something at the time he was knocked out?

And I'm only talking about that Luffy and that Doflamingo.. not if Doflamingo trained for two years, as in your Zoro and Rob lucci comparison.

So they're not the same thing my dudes.
 
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It doesn't work like that bro.

Luffy and Doflamingo went all out for the last attack, giving it all they had.. not at all like the Yeti cool bros. incident.. unless you're implying that Zoro was using Asura or something at the time we was knocked out?

And I'm only talking about that Luffy and that Doflamingo.. not if Doflamingo trained for two years, as in your Zoro and Rob lucci comparison.

So they're not the same thing my dudes.
Nope, this goes against your logic. If it happened once, then it's happened 100% of the time, and that's the result that will always happen.
 

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It's not my logic, it's yours. If it works one time, then it has worked 100% of the time, and therefore will work 100% of the time. That's what you said.
I clearly said two posts back that it is about That Luffy and That Doflamingo that the story has shown us..

Not a Yeti bros scenario.. or a character who had years to train..


If Doffy didn't go all out against KKG when he got put to sleep then maybe you'd have a point..

If Doffy gets a two year training timeskip for himself in the story right now, I wouldn't say that it's 100% anymore..

Understand?

One thing in the manga =/= everything in the manga..

That would be like saying in every pirate crew the Captain is always the strongest, just because Whitebeard was the strongest in his crew 100%.. you see, your logic is flawed big time because I can debunk it with plenty of examples..

Doflamingo went all out and Luffy went all out for the end of their fight and KKG knocked Doflamingo out.

That means that at that point in the story KKG has the power to K.O. Doflamingo 100%.

At the point in the story with the Yeti Bros and Zoro incident, it will happen the same way 100% of the time as well if no variables change. Same with your other example actually.. so wait... hmm.. maybe that logic is correct after all... it will always happen that way 100% guaranteed because that's what Oda wants.. lol okay I can agree to that actually..

Yes.

Luffy > Doflamingo

KKG is Doffy's favorite bedtime story.

100%


That logic is correct after all, as long as no variables change of course..
 

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I clearly said two posts back that it is about That Luffy and That Doflamingo that the story has shown us..

Not a Yeti bros scenario.. or a character who had years to train..


If Doffy didn't go all out against KKG when he got put to sleep then maybe you'd have a point..

If Doffy gets a two year training timeskip for himself in the story right now, I wouldn't say that it's 100% anymore..

Understand?

One thing in the manga =/= everything in the manga..

That would be like saying in every pirate crew the Captain is always the strongest, just because Whitebeard was the strongest in his crew 100%.. you see, your logic is flawed big time because I can debunk it with plenty of examples..

Doflamingo went all out and Luffy went all out for the end of their fight and KKG knocked Doflamingo out.

That means that at that point in the story KKG has the power to K.O. Doflamingo 100%.

At the point in the story with the Yeti Bros and Zoro incident, it will happen the same way 100% of the time as well if no variables change. Same with your other example actually.. so wait... hmm.. maybe that logic is correct after all... it will always happen that way 100% guaranteed because that's what Oda wants.. lol okay I can agree to that actually..

Yes.

Luffy > Doflamingo

KKG is Doffy's favorite bedtime story.

100%


That logic is correct after all, as long as no variables change of course..
No variables have changed between Zoro and the Yeti Cool Brothers, so they still defeat Zoro 100% of the time.

Also, you do realize that Doflamingo's strength is a variable right? He had barely any energy left when KKG hit. We have proof that KKG uses up the same amount of energy as the Gear Fourth assault Luffy used. We have proof that that assault isn't enough to finish off Doflamingo. Add it together, and you have more than enough variables to show why KKG doesn't finish off Doflamingo 100% of the time.
 

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No variables have changed between Zoro and the Yeti Cool Brothers, so they still defeat Zoro 100% of the time.

Also, you do realize that Doflamingo's strength is a variable right? He had barely any energy left when KKG hit. We have proof that KKG uses up the same amount of energy as the Gear Fourth assault Luffy used. We have proof that that assault isn't enough to finish off Doflamingo. Add it together, and you have more than enough variables to show why KKG doesn't finish off Doflamingo 100% of the time.
Yes. If no variables change then that's correct.

But neither did Luffy so what's your point?

And KKG is not the same as what Luffy did the first Gear Fourth assault.. so that point doesn't change anything..
 

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Yes. If no variables change then that's correct.

But neither did Luffy so what's your point?

And KKG is not the same as what Luffy did the first Gear Fourth assault.. so that point doesn't change anything..
Yes it is. After KKG, he immediately fell out of Gear 4th. That means it takes up the same amount of energy just to do what Luffy did through the entire session of the last Gear 4th. Because Luffy is a physical fighter and can only output so much damage in proportion to his strength, that means the damage between the two is the same as they consume the same amount of strength.
 

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Yes it is. After KKG, he immediately fell out of Gear 4th. That means it takes up the same amount of energy just to do what Luffy did through the entire session of the last Gear 4th. Because Luffy is a physical fighter and can only output so much damage in proportion to his strength, that means the damage between the two is the same as they consume the same amount of strength.
The first time Luffy went Gear 4th is not the same thing as hitting Doflamingo with a KKG bro..
 

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Sanji is so useless though! I mean look at his face when his two older brothers appear! He still does not trust his own strength to stand up to those two. Pity really. Should learn a thing or two from Zoro.
Lmao I cringed reading through that tbh. Wtf you been reading? One piece?
 

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Luffy beats doffy 1 vs 1.
Na he really doesn't. Even after both were injured when their 1 on 1 fight started in the manga Luffy still needed the entire help of Dressrosa and the other fighters just to compete with Doflamingo. If they both start healthy Luffy loses. High difficulty.
 

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Na he really doesn't. Even after both were injured when their 1 on 1 fight started in the manga Luffy still needed the entire help of Dressrosa and the other fighters just to compete with Doflamingo. If they both start healthy Luffy loses. High difficulty.
You know how you say plot not jutsu is the reason why the hero wins?
Well Plot no jutsu is also the reason why Villains survive that long xD Just what I think.
 

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