What is wrong with you? Did Zoro physically manifested himself and insulted you or something as I can't find any other explanation as to why you are acting like an ignorant and obstinate hater that even would make a hardcore Sasuke hater on manga day admire you.
There are dozens and dozens of references throughout the entire series that clearly point to Oda's intention of Zoro being the 1st mate (and I accidentally said 2nd mate because I was thinking Luffy was 1st, however the meaning was still very clear), so many references and hints that many people by default already accept that Zoro is the 1st mate. On top of that Oda himself made it extremely clear that at least everyone within the OPverse outside the crew sees Zoro as the 1st mate. This has always been obvious as many characters talked about how he could have been a captain on his own etc. etc. and this was stated very clearly by Bartolomeo. Oda made Barto say that. This is a fictional story where everything is decided by Oda, so in the least Oda made it perfectly clear that that is how the OPverse perceives Zoro.
And what is your argument? That Barto is some kind of retarded lunatic that can't be trusted. Barto is a huge fan of the Strawhats, so yes he is quite biased towards them. However this and that are two different things as what reason does Barto have to make up that Zoro is the 1st mate? He didn't know any of them personally and only saw them briefly in Loguetown. There is no reason for him to make it up. The reality is extremely simple: to the entire OPverse Zoro looks like the 1st mate, which makes a lot of sense. Most people don't know the Strawhats. First they only knew their captain Luffy. After that they learned about Zoro as he was the first one after Luffy to gain a bounty. As a result up to the point the other gained bounties, Zoro was the face of the entire Strawhat crew. You have Strawhat Luffy and you have the Strawhat pirates and the face of the latter was Zoro, exactly how it also was with Roger and Rayleigh. He was also the one who always had the highest bounty after Luffy. He also already had quite a notorious reputation before he joined the crew and his exploits have been mentioned the most after Luffy's. For some reason Oda kept reminding us of that he beat a 100 bounty hunters all alone at Whisky Peak. People in the OPverse automatically started to see Zoro as such, which is logical. Don Chinjao even said something similar when Zoro beat Pica "so this one of Garp's grandson men".
This just common sense, try using it for a change. By all means and records, Zoro is Luffy's 1st mate. The only thing that's missing, is the shallow formality of one of the Strawhats clearly stating it. Now that an extremely skeptical person would not want to acknowledge that until this happens, I somewhat can understand. However that's not what you are being, you are just finding BS excuses that don't make sense just so that you would not have to admit that there's a 99% certainty that Zoro is indeed the 1st mate and that that makes hell of a lot of sense.
Even one of the official OP databooks described Zoro as "somewhat of a vice captain". You keep repeating BS stuff like "authority" and blablabla, but that's redundant, it doesn't matter. If you actually would follow your own screwed up logic properly, that would mean you say that Luffy is not the captain. After all Zoro, Nami, Sanji etc. all have done stuff that in fact the captain should be doing and Luffy is continuously doing things a captain shouldn't be doing. Luffy himself once said he's actually quite the screw-up and on another moment that he's really selfish. So if you would be actually consistent in your excuses, Luffy would not be the captain. If you accept Luffy as the captain despite all his flaws in regards to his position, the same can be done for Zoro. Zoro is the 1st mate, that however doesn't correspond with a particular authority and that's also not important. There isn't even a clear definition within the OP world what a 1st mate exactly is supposed to be, Oda even seems to be avoiding the term. You however are highly subjectively deciding that "authority" alone is the key, while being things like the 2nd strongest, the longest in the crew etc. are also all very well legit.
Frankly I don't get why I bother arguing with you. I mean you think Nami is the captain, not Luffy apparently.
That doesn't make sense. The reason I said if, is because if he doesn't join, the argument that till now all Strawhats held a specific position still very well applies and up to this point Jinbei has not joined.
It's a manga fact that the whole "God Usopp" thing is a huge misconception to the point it becomes almost purely something for comedic relieve. It's also a fact that on Skypea there's a position called god in a similar manner as to how villages can have mayors and countries presidents.Ussop is God. Mangafact u cant deny it
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Brook is like a zombie. He is an animated corpse raised by magical means(df).
OPverse has 3 basic types of DF:
Paramecia, Logia, Zoan. Others(ancient Zoan, Mythical zoan) comes under sub categories of Logia and Zoan type fruits.
Now SHs already have Paramecia & Zoan type. so i think they should have 1 logia type. Whats the problem here?
I never said these guys will join SHs. Some of the guys have already joined SH alliance(long leg, long arm, giant, dwarve)
& I never liked the idea Jinbei joining SH. If u have read last page i replied Jinbei would be better if he becomes a commander in SH aliiance.
Everyone agree BB will fight Shanks at the end of the manga. That means Van augur will fight Ussop's father and becomes Best Sniper in OPverse. Ussop has to become a brave warrior if he has to face Van Augur and take that title from him.
U forgot Chopper'd dream
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U agree that there is a role for everyone then explain What role Carrot fits in? She will be treated like another pet in SH crew.
It is obvious there will be another guy who joins SH. Luffy said he wanted 10nakama. And its not baseless. Let me give u an example why I think CC is best choice for 10th SH:
1)He has dream to surpass Vegapunk
2)He can help Chopper with his rumber ball thing and maybe he will become Pharmacist in SH crew(if he joins)
3)He can help Franky with his cola thing
4)Former Villain
5)Logia type and he wont be stronger that Zoro or Sanji in future.
And the problem as that you again highly forcefully are trying to see a correlation between things that does not exist and seem to be completely oblivious to that fact. There is no connection between a cyborg, a god, a skeleton. Those also have no connection whatsoever to DF. There are only four of a crew of nine who ate a DF. Three Paramecia and one Zoan. So there is absolutely no pattern, no connection whatsoever there, so there is absolutely nothing that indicates Oda has the intention of completing a set of the different DF types. That would be the case if for example the entire crew solely existed out of DF users and one type of each DF category as then you have a clear, logical pattern. There is however no such pattern, that's the problem and that becomes even more obvious when you star talking about his fleet. Luffy had a brother who was a logia and his other brother now is also a logia, a brother that will come to his aid immediately if he would be in serious trouble and that same brother also serves under Luffy's father. You are randomly drawing lines where it suits you, you are intentionally ignoring things whenever it's convenient for you. You did the same thing with the whole Drake and Marco thing.
If Usopp just wanted to be the best sniper, he could have just said that he wants to become the best sniper. What he wants is stopping being so fearful, which is a rather vague thing.
And I was the one in the first place that brought up the point that she does not seem to fit any role seems to be the biggest issue with her joining. Also the whole pet thing is Chopper, which is only meant for comic relief. If your logic would be true, that would mean all animal humanoids in the OPverse are considered pets. Sounds great, instead of the 100 beasts pirate crew, it's the 100 pets pirate crew. Carrot is a Mink and the Mink tribe has a reputation of being aggressive and violent. It's highly doubtful they would consider someone like her a pet and even more doubtful that Oda would repeat the same gag for another Strawhat.
And again I was the first person in this thread that brought up the 10 crew thing, however it remains a fact that that was all the way back at the beginning of the story and even Oda did not plan out the entire story at that point in time. The fact that OP has been running way longer than the estimated time, is proof of that. The comment that Oda made about a villain joining, has apparently already been fulfilled. My point was that if Oda recently said that a villain would join, it would have been confirmed that there will be a new Strawhat, however such a confirmation is currently not-existing, hence your statement is false and invalid. You have no reason to assume a villain is going to join and the possibility of a next Strawhat is not guaranteed. Why you suddenly start talking about CC, is beyond me.
If she literally tore away his throat, Luffy's blood would be all over the place. Anyhow of all the current Strawhats, of who could you say for certain at the start he/she would be following Luffy's orders properly? Also Carrot is/was part of the musketeer squad and already seems to have bonded quite well with several Strawhats. They also already know how they can keep her calm, so her potentially not being able to follow Luffy's orders, seems negligible.
And I think you yourself already noticed that the comparison with BB crew is rather forced. When his crew was first introduced, many people saw parallels, however that was largely due to Van Augur. The latter was from the start portrayed as a marksman expert and Oda hasn't done that for many characters. One of the few is Usopp and as a result people started searching for parallels with other characters. Some are credible, but ever since his crew expanded I think you noticed that for most characters this comparisons have become rather forced. The reality is we can't really draw sensible parallels at this point with the information we have, so it becomes very well possible you could draw a parallel between one of the BB pirates and Carrot. For example Avalao Pizzaro has some animalistic features and Carrot is a Bunny. Carrot is also a type of food and so is Pizza etc.
Frankly drawing parallels between characters is easy, however giving them some credibility is another matter.
