[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 811 Discussion and 812 Predictions
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I liked seeing CC and Chopper collaborating with each other actively to save the island and then having more and more of the Minks join them in the effort. I was at first disappointed though as it seemed Oda still wouldn't touch what Happened to Sanji, but then finally at the end of the chapter we got an overall picture. It wasn't really surprising that Pekoms was a Mink. So Luffy and the Strawhats are pretty much butting heads with two Yonkou at the same time xd
We are on a break. It has happened before that when they do a double issue, as in one chapter for two weeks, that instead of having a chapter one week and none in the other week they release a chapter right in the middle of the two weeks. So this is likely both a late chapter of this week as an early chapter of next week.
This is a really messed-up irrational reasoning that makes no sense. They are two completely different characters in completely different circumstances. So the chances that Jack joins the Strawhats have no relation to the chances that CC joins.
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Macho makes sense with that though. The reason Jack won't join and CC won't join is because they're both the kind of people Luffy absolutely hates. Caesar is at best like Crocodile was in MF, except he's being punked around
No it doesn't make sense, even more so considering Luffy can change his opinion about people extremely fast in a 180° turn. He does that all the time, there are countless examples of these even including people who later became Strawhats. So if the argument is "Luffy doesn't like them", you effectively destroyed your own statement completely and validated the possibility that both Jack and CC can become a Strawhat at the same time. Not to mention there are countless of people Luffy's likes who did not join.
CC has by now been running around for three arcs interacting with the Strawhats. He has fought alongside them and now was vital to saving the population of an entire island. That he was forced to do it, is rather besides the point. Same thing what Luffy thinks about him as he changes his opinion all the time. The reality is that the only thing that matters, is what CC thinks. If he starts to like the Strawhats and shows remorse, the only thing he has to do is some kind of a selfless act and then he's one step away of becoming a Strawhat. Jack on the other hand is a different matter altogether.
So yeah comparing Jack with CC makes no sense whatsoever. Jack is not CC, they're in different situations and have different circumstances. Personally I don't really see either of them joining, but that comparison is simply screwed up.
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Luffy has never changed his opinion about someone he truly hates. The only people that saw anything close to this were the bandits Garp left him with, and I wouldn't even count that since that was prejudice rather than hating them for who they were. It makes the most sense that Caesar is, at most, a Crocodile-type character: Someone Luffy hates with a passion but is a temporary ally. Crocodile was three arcs as well: Alabasta, Impel Down, and Marineford. Would it have made sense for people to say Crocodile could or would become a Strawhat while Marineford was going down? And while I have no doubt that there are people who did, would you have taken them seriously were you to see them saying so? The only Strawhat that you could say Luffy hated was Franky, and even then, hate is a strong word and unlike Caesar, Franky wasn't slated by the Strawhat closest to Luffy to be the kind of man Luffy hates with the utmost hate. Why would Luffy ever let Caesar join?
This chapter was Oda's way of saying CC cannot join the SH's, as CC was still enjoying the thought of all the victims suffering shooting down the notion that he is changing for the better. That's how I saw it.
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Only around women though, the only reason he went is because of tashigi, but a hero that cares about mainly nothing but women is no hero ...XD
Not really. Caesar was more interested in the success of his invention, rather than what happened due to it. Also, he was already holding the opinion that minkmen were all savage, so it's not like he knew all about the two sides of the coin.
But yeah, Caesar has too much bad blood to join the strawhats, although we will have to wait and see.
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I liked this chapter. So there is a threat from Yonkou?.
Cover chapter looks awesome. There is a panda & Sanji is drinking 'Lady Coffee'?. XD
Cover chapter looks awesome. There is a panda & Sanji is drinking 'Lady Coffee'?. XD
"never changed his opinion someone he truly hates". That's a highly biased, baseless and also a completely wrong statement. Franky and his men beat Usopp up and stole the money he was carrying. This gave Usopp almost a mental breakdown. As a result Luffy destroyed the Franky family and fought Franky while ruining the entire shipyard of Water 7. Frankie eventually became a Strawhat.
Arlong and his crew terrorized Nami's hometown for years and killed her mother. Luffy even went as far as to risk everything by hitting a Celestial Dragon. For whom? Hacchi, one of Arlong's luitenants and closest friends.
Bellamy beat up Cricket and stole his money. Luffy starts cheering for him at the tournament.
And this list goes on and on. He has helped, befriended and even let people join his crew which he should have hated from the bottom of his being. He didn't. Why? Because Luffy doesn't have what it takes to truly hate someone and can easily change what he thinks of people depending on the situation and how they act. That's one of his most prominent characteristics. Saying that he doesn't allow people to join because he truly hates them is complete BS and is the result of you people subjectively starting to determine which characters he should truly hate and which not disregarding the context of the entire story.
When Robin first met Luffy, she presumably assassinated Igaram in cold blood. She was the right hand of a villainous shichibukai who was destroying Vivi's country. Robin joined the Strawhats and Luffy later busted Crocodile out of ID, either without actually protesting much about it. Later of course it appeared that Robin didn't kill Igaram and had a very difficult past, but you couldn't know that at that point in the story. The only thing CC needs now is a few flash-back chapters of a traumatic event in his past and if he then shows remorse, he can join the Strawhats just like that. That's the reality.
What you are doing is using knowledge about certain characters that was obtained later in the story to determine that these characters weren't so bad after all and thus that Luffy didn't really hate them. That way of thinking is vehemently wrong as you have no idea what's going to happen with CC in the future. It's not that Luffy never changed his opinion about someone he truly hates, it's you who changed your opinion merely to make it so that it appears that Luffy has never changed his opinion. You are changing your opinions and perceptions just so you could say that.
What sense was there in letting Robin join? A cold-hearted assassin that had no remorse killing people and plummeting an entire country into chaos. What sense was there in letting a thug join who beat and kidnapped Usopp and stole the money they needed to repair Merry? There was none. That sense came afterwards when the story progressed, something that can easily be the case for CC. "Robin killed Igaram on a whim and is trying to destroy an entire country? Luffy clearly does not hate her, she can join. Franky beat up Usopp and stole and spend most of our money that was meant for Merry. Luffy clearly does not hate him, let him join. Oh no CC, he saved an entire island together with us, but I'm going to hate him truly because he's an immoral scientist." Yeah no, that's not how it works. You let yourself be influenced by knowledge you obtained afterwards and let it cloud your entire mind.
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Caliburn, it was because of CC's invention that Zou was destroyed. The Minks wouldn't need to be saved by Caesar if he never invented Koro.
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Re:applying Parallels like I'm on a TG thread
She was renown for her long blonde hair and snow white skin.
If only Tom had the Suke Suke fruit.
inb4 we see Absalom soon
inb4 this isn't Caesar's heart.
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Methinks it's a reference to Lady Godiva. Coincidentally, the legend of the "peeping Tom" originates from this story. Lady Godiva rode around naked to protest taxes. She preemptively ordered everyone to stay inside and lock their doors/shutters. There was just
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named Tom who couldn't resist and was struck blind when he witnessed the naked Godiva riding gleefully on her horse- commiting the greatest act of voyeurism. She was renown for her long blonde hair and snow white skin.
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If only Tom had the Suke Suke fruit.
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inb4 we see Absalom soon
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Chapter's awesome, 5/5, the suspense is real XD Year of Sanji, here I come 
I don't care who joins or when it will happen, as long as he/she is worth for SH and Luffy likes him/her as nakama. It's like, while most fans love Bon-chan, there's this small portion of hatred I bear towards him because of his disguise as Cobra during Alabasta arc, which hurts me a lot since the King and Vivi suffer a great deal thanks to him creating a fake incident of Cobra and dance powder relation. In the end loyalty in friendship fixes that I guess. So yeah, whomever joining must be in good terms with Luffy first, then the rest of SH, then i'll accept it.
Cover is good, like the colour scheme and the entire setting.
Wanda + Nami is cool, and it's sad to see Wanda cries like that. I'm glad that Nami's brave and quick enough to fend off Wanda's attack, regardless of the latter's condition, she looks great there. Proud of her.
Now we're gonna meet Nekomamushi, I find it strange that Luffy could pronounce his name smoothly. Did Oda forget the small quirk of Luffy or something?
Starting to feel anxious on Sanji's sacrificial act. Why couldn't he return to the crew?? :devil:
I don't care who joins or when it will happen, as long as he/she is worth for SH and Luffy likes him/her as nakama. It's like, while most fans love Bon-chan, there's this small portion of hatred I bear towards him because of his disguise as Cobra during Alabasta arc, which hurts me a lot since the King and Vivi suffer a great deal thanks to him creating a fake incident of Cobra and dance powder relation. In the end loyalty in friendship fixes that I guess. So yeah, whomever joining must be in good terms with Luffy first, then the rest of SH, then i'll accept it.
Cover is good, like the colour scheme and the entire setting.
Wanda + Nami is cool, and it's sad to see Wanda cries like that. I'm glad that Nami's brave and quick enough to fend off Wanda's attack, regardless of the latter's condition, she looks great there. Proud of her.
Now we're gonna meet Nekomamushi, I find it strange that Luffy could pronounce his name smoothly. Did Oda forget the small quirk of Luffy or something?
Starting to feel anxious on Sanji's sacrificial act. Why couldn't he return to the crew?? :devil:
Really love this, thanks for the insight =D I just knew there must be a reference to something, like some kinda origin of some kinda stuff and all. It's Oda after all, and I do think this nailed it
And he was the one who also undid it, resulting in the Strawhats becoming the Minks saviors. It was Jack and his troops who destroyed Zou and used the gas. The Minks wouldn't need to be saved if they wouldn't have been attacked in the first place.
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Eiichiro Sensei's New Year 2016 Sketch. He drew it especially for fans in One Piece site. Thought I would share it here too.
Not sure how many of you are aware of this but official website for One Piece Tokyo Tower has been launched. It is available in ofcourse Japanese, Chinese, Korean and English. The one I linked you below is English version of site.
The Video below is the Live Stage Play attraction done in One Piece Tower, Tokyo.
[video=youtube;ONkqc4HAC_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkqc4HAC_c[/video]
Rather than me posting all of the links here, it would be better if you explore it yourself in the link I gave above.
I liked them. There is a section for each character like Nami, Robin, Luffy, Ussop, Brook, Chopper, Franky.
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Not sure how many of you are aware of this but official website for One Piece Tokyo Tower has been launched. It is available in ofcourse Japanese, Chinese, Korean and English. The one I linked you below is English version of site.
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The Video below is the Live Stage Play attraction done in One Piece Tower, Tokyo.
[video=youtube;ONkqc4HAC_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkqc4HAC_c[/video]
Rather than me posting all of the links here, it would be better if you explore it yourself in the link I gave above.
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I liked them. There is a section for each character like Nami, Robin, Luffy, Ussop, Brook, Chopper, Franky.
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