Re: One Piece Manga Chapter 808 Discussion and 809 Predictions
Robin looks awesome in that color spread Jack's bounty is 1 bill, what? Lol. If the duke ran into Shanks when he had his SH then I wonder if he some sort of relationship with Roger then. LOL so much for the Jack hype, these dukes are powerful.
Lmfao leave it to Oda to simultaneously hype up 3 characters at the same time. Who tf are we supposed to be afraid of the most?? All 3 of these guys are beasts.
We are talking about a man with a 1 billion bounty yet the Duke is "punching" out of his "shift" LOL. No dmans given at all....and then he leaves him with a quick flex speech "there are other imbeciles like you" leading to Nekomamushi, who by the way had one of the best intros of all time.
10/10 chapter right here. Quality character hype.
This is the first time we see a legitimate top tiers bounty in One Piece as well. This chapter was also a big screw you to those saying Zoro would solo Jack.
that makes zero sense. Even east blue fodders can rack up casualties. To have a billion beri bounty you have to be a God like force to be reckoned with. A legitimate top tier around Admiral level.
EDIT: I almost forgot the best news. Break next week again, yay. It wouldn't have been One Piece without it.
Lmfao leave it to Oda to simultaneously hype up 3 characters at the same time. Who tf are we supposed to be afraid of the most?? All 3 of these guys are beasts.
We are talking about a man with a 1 billion bounty yet the Duke is "punching" out of his "shift" LOL. No damns given at all....and then he leaves him with a quick flex speech "there are other imbeciles like you" leading to Nekomamushi, who by the way had one of the best intros of all time.
10/10 chapter right here. Quality character hype.
This is the first time we see a legitimate top tiers bounty in One Piece as well. This chapter was also a big screw you to those saying Zoro would solo Jack.
that makes zero sense. Even east blue fodders can rack up casualties. To have a billion beri bounty you have to be a God like force to be reckoned with. A legitimate top tier around Admiral level.
EDIT: I almost forgot the best news. Break next week again, yay. It wouldn't have been One Piece without it.
Unlikely. Bounties just represent how dangerous to society you have been. A Yonko's right hand man who loves to destroy and harm the innocent? Of course his bounty will be immense. You don't get a nickname like "Jack the Drought" and be known for destroying every island you come across without actually doing so.
Neko attacked Jack after Jack was fighting Inu for hours. If Jack had come at night, the same thing would have happened. Neko and Inu were literally stated to be equals in authority and power the very same chapter.
I'm fairly confident your bounty doesn't spike to 1 billion by taking out a bunch of fodder, theres a cap to how much you can raise a bounty based on crap like that.
Something like this could happen though, someone = to Jack but with a calmer personality can have a slightly lower bounty lets say 985 000 000 beri , just like Kidd had a slightly higher bounty than Luffy pre timeskip, but you would have to be of a certain caliber to reach that bounty.
I'm fairly confident your bounty doesn't spike to 1 billion by taking out a bunch of fodder, theres a cap to how much you can raise a bounty based on crap like that.
Something like this could happen though, someone = to Jack but with a calmer personality can have a slightly lower bounty lets say 985 000 000 beri , just like Kidd had a slightly higher bounty than Luffy pre timeskip, but you would have to be of a certain caliber to reach that bounty.
Actually, no. The problem here is you're basing this on the viewpoint of a reader who's looking at characters based on significance to the story. A bunch of no-name citizens, to you, are gonna be considered insignificant and fodder.
But you have to look at it from the standpoint of the WG as though this is a real world. To them, these are real people, not "fodder" but people who are viewed the same way you and I are viewed by our governments. The WG isn't gonna go "Damn, Jack killed 300 people again today by stomping through a country. That's the third time this week. Let's not raise his bounty because they're just fodder." Jack is a member of a Yonko's crew, meaning the Marines aren't gonna mess with him as casually as they would someone like the Supernova or mid-tier fighters, because doing so would spill all-out war, something they only do when absolutely necessary. So, the best measure is to increase Jack's bounty to levels so skyrocketed high, people will take him down for the WG. The point of instilling such a large bounty on someone who:
1. Loves to kill and destroy the innocent that the WG is supposed to protect
2. Is one of the top men of a Yonko, people the WG don't tread wildly with when it comes to the concept of war, and can therefore run much freer than most pirates and criminals
is to motivate bounty hunters to go after him. When you have someone of Jack's stature, with such power, not many people will just go attacking him, so the WG has to provide huuuuge incentive to do so. It makes sense that, logically, the stronger you are the higher your bounty will be if you commit crimes like these. Strength, intensity of crimes, and frequency of crimes play roles in determining the bounty at fluctuating levels of influence.
A super duper strong pirate who commits almost no outrageous crimes could have a lower bounty than someone much weaker than him, but who commits intense crimes all the time. That's why Doflamingo could be a pirate for as long as he did before he became a Shichibukai, and amass a bounty lower than Kid's and Luffy's were pre-timeskip despite being much stronger. Doflamingo was immensely stronger than both of them, but Luffy and Kid gained higher bounties in a few years than he did in his long time of pre-Shichibukai piracy because their crimes were either much more frequent(Kid gunning down innocents all the time) or much more intense(Luffy breaking into Enie's Lobby, Impel Down, the Marineford War).
At the end of the day, there's no one reason for why someone's bounty could be so high. It could be constantly committing small crimes every single day for years and years that add up. It could be because they committed three or five immensely intense crimes. But one thing we can say for sure is that higher bounties never indicate higher strength 100% of the time.
I'm fairly confident your bounty doesn't spike to 1 billion by taking out a bunch of fodder, theres a cap to how much you can raise a bounty based on crap like that.
Something like this could happen though, someone = to Jack but with a calmer personality can have a slightly lower bounty lets say 985 000 000 beri , just like Kidd had a slightly higher bounty than Luffy pre timeskip, but you would have to be of a certain caliber to reach that bounty.
I doubt he was just taking out fodders, I just believe it'd be a major factor in
his bounty considering his nature and reputation. If he leaves plenty of islands
looking like what he did at Zou with all the unneeded damage he caused, it wouldn't
be surprising that a decent portion of his bounty is casualties.
I'm sure he's done some vicious shit to become Kaido's right hand man, without a doubt.
Actually, no. The problem here is you're basing this on the viewpoint of a reader who's lacking at characters based on significance to the story. A bunch of no-name citizens, to you, are gonna be considered insignificant and fodder.
But you have to look at it from the standpoint of the WG as though this is a real world. To them, these are real people, not "fodder" but people who are viewed the same way you and I are viewed by our governments. The WG isn't gonna go "Damn, Jack killed 300 people again today by stomping through a country. That's the third time this week. Let's not raise his bounty because they're just fodder." Jack is a member of a Yonko's crew, meaning the Marines aren't gonna mess with him as casually as they would someone like the Supernova or mid-tier fighters, because doing so would spill all-out war, something they only do when absolutely necessary. So, the best measure is to increase Jack's bounty to levels so skyrocketed high, people will take him down for the WG. The point of instilling such a large bounty on someone who:
1. Loves to kill and destroy the innocent that the WG is supposed to protect
2. Is one of the top men of a Yonko, people the WG don't tread wildly with when it comes to the concept of war, and can therefore run much freer than most pirates and criminals
is to motivate bounty hunters to go after him. When you have someone of Jack's stature, with such power, not many people will just go attacking him, so the WG has to provide huuuuge incentive to do so. It makes sense that, logically, the stronger you are the higher your bounty will be if you commit crimes like these. Strength, intensity of crimes, and frequency of crimes play roles in determining the bounty at fluctuating levels of influence.
A super duper strong pirate who commits almost no outrageous crimes could have a lower bounty than someone much weaker than him, but who commits intense crimes all the time. That's why Doflamingo could be a pirate for as long as he did before he became a Shichibukai, and amass a bounty lower than Kid's and Luffy's were pre-timeskip despite being much stronger. Doflamingo was immensely stronger than both of them, but Luffy and Kid gained higher bounties in a few years than he did in his long time of pre-Shichibukai piracy because their crimes were either much more frequent(Kid gunning down innocents all the time) or much more intense(Luffy breaking into Enie's Lobby, Impel Down, the Marineford War).
At the end of the day, there's no one reason for why someone's bounty could be so high. It could be constantly committing small crimes every single day for years and years that add up. It could be because they committed three or five immensely intense crimes. But one thing we can say for sure is that higher bounties never indicate higher strength 100% of the time.
No that's not how this works. There is a cap to these bounties and how much you can raise them based on things like this. Little crimes adding up will not raise your bounty this high, not even close.
Taking down entire countries is exactly why he has that bounty, that speaks for his strength, not his ability to kill innocent people. Many people have the ability to go around and kill thousands and thousands of innocent, the WG places a bounty like this so someone really strong would have the motivation to take this man down. And so weaker guys wouldn't even waste their time on people with bounties this high.
You might have had a point up to the 500 million range but even that is a stretch, with a level this high, only your strength could be the reason behind it.
Having countries end up like Zou speaks for his strength. He leaves every place looking like it's been through a drought.
Its a bounty beyond the realm of high tiers, its only something top tiers can touch or even think of trying to cash in on.
Having a certain nature alone can only take you so far, you have to be strong to be able to back your personality up.
I doubt he was just taking out fodders, I just believe it'd be a major factor in
his bounty considering his nature and reputation. If he leaves plenty of islands
looking like what he did at Zou with all the unneeded damage he caused, it wouldn't
be surprising that a decent portion of his bounty is casualties.
I'm sure he's done some vicious shit to become Kaido's right hand man, without a doubt.
ofcourse its a reason for it, but its because of his strength he is able to do those things. So its kinda pointless to point out, its like you are trying to say he cheated his way to that bounty when that can't be the case.
I can guarantee you guys that all Yonko first mates have bounties upwards of 800 million beris.
Jack's bounty is 1 bill, what? Lol. If the duke ran into Shanks when he had his SH then I wonder if he some sort of relationship with Roger then. LOL so much for the Jack hype, these dukes are powerful.
