People are just watching/reading OP because of it's hype which is pretty pathetic. Maybe they're just Naruto fans looking for a new series to d*ck-ride. Idk. Yeah some of the complaints are getting ridiculous, people have no patience.
[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 772 Discussion and 773 Predictions
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Could have sworn I replied to this already, but I guess some glitch happened. Anyways, this is a pile of elitist shit.
First off, just because someone sees something in OP that you see as a positive negatively does not make them "fake fans." You are not a "real fan" because you liked OP from the get-go, or from the beginning of its release. You are not a "real fan" because you fell in love wit OP back when it was Loguetown, or Alabasta. I don't see you going "Man, look at all of these dickriders" when an a great chapter comes out and everyone is swooning over it and posting positive feedback, so why is negative feedback *****ing? Maybe, just maybe, OP isn't a cater to one preference. Maybe, just maybe, OP has things that captivates some of its fans, but not every fan. Maybe, just maybe, what you like about OP isn't what another person likes, and maybe, just maybe, what they like isn't something you like. Maybe, just maybe, a chapter that you enjoyed and was interested in was boring to someone else. And they can say that if they want without you being the ****ing fan sheriff and throwing fake fans around. So what some people are waiting for another Marineford, that makes them less of a fan than you? So what some people were bored by the first 100 chapters, news flash, OP has an incredibly slow start, EVERYONE knows that. It's pretty legitimate for some people to have been bored by them. IF you loved the, awesome for you, everyone isn't you, the world doesn't revolve around your preferences. People are allowed to dislike things you like and to share that opinion. There is no "Only positive things", either we get to say both negative and positive opinions, or we all shut the **** up. Get off your high horse, Algalon.
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I couldn't say this better even on my first language...
Since I need to spread rep around, I will first time give like to someone.
Really, that's all subjective.
I would like to see explanation of members that always give 5/5 to chapter.
Even if Chapter A was slightly better than Chapter B, and even if Chapter M was more action-oriented/less talky than Chapter X, you'll still see people giving perfect ratings.
Why? What makes a chapter perfect for you? If the inconsistencies are good enough to garner perfect ratings every week, then I'd hate to see what you'd consider a 2/5.
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Woa woa I really pissed you off didn't I XD
Do you think I was talking about the majority of the fans? No, I was talking about a very, very small minority of ppl none of which are on this forum. Do you know who I had in mind? Ever been to You Tube? Same persons always b????hing around no matter what
But the main part of the post was that a few ppl were very vocal on how they hate these chapters and want them to end as fast as possible but ironically they are now complaining that enemies were "1shotted" and dealt woth too fast, they are also complaining that Zoro v Pica has been going on for "too long" while they, ironically, call the Zoro part of these chapters the only good part
And yes I DO think that someone who b????es about almost everything pre MF and almoat everything post MF as stupid and downhill is not a reL OP fan
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You pissed me off about as much as the people you were complaining about in that initial post pissed you off, so let's not try that.
You were not talking about a particular person
"Especially comments on certain YT reviews" You were talking about more than just YT comments, but YT comments stood out to you from the bunch. And it doesn't matter if you're referring to a minority of fans, or a majority of fans, or one fan, the point is still the same: You are not the fan sheriff. You don't get to decide someone is a fake fan. You yourself are *****ing in a fashion that can be summarized as "Arghhhh stop not liking things I like!"
I don't care about that. My post was more about the fact the fact that you're labelling people who didn't enjoy the first hundred chapters as much as others, including you, as fake fans, or people who think the story was/is in decline. So what if people think MF was the peak of the story and want that level of story back? Maybe, they're a normal level fan, and you're just a tard after all.
Nope. To be a fan of the series, you watch and support it, whether it's because you're loving the current part of the story, or it's because you're not but have faith in Oda to make it good again, as he always has before. That's it. Stop acting like you and the others who loved every second of every chapter of every year are the real fans, like the you're the Jesus of the OP fandom or something.
Yo, perhaps i'm one of the guys who'd give ratings either 4/5 or 5/5 for almost every chapter ever since i started reading One Piece, around... Punk Hazard arc in any forum.I couldn't say this better even on my first language...
Since I need to spread rep around, I will first time give like to someone.
Really, that's all subjective.
I would like to see explanation of members that always give 5/5 to chapter.
Even if Chapter A was slightly better than Chapter B, and even if Chapter M was more action-oriented/less talky than Chapter X, you'll still see people giving perfect ratings.
Why? What makes a chapter perfect for you? If the inconsistencies are good enough to garner perfect ratings every week, then I'd hate to see what you'd consider a 2/5.
My reason is easy. Just as how one is entitled to opinion and preference, mine is the same. It's more to my preference whenever i rate it. As in my preference, it covers everything; what the character is doing that time, what kinda progress we have for the week, is it full of fighting scene or story development, what i wanna see or what i haven't expected to see, etc. Because of that, they're different than most readers' general views.
Let's say we haven't got much faster of a story pace after several chapters out within a certain period of time, i found myself enjoy the characters' quirks instead, or the situation/environment. One Piece chapter always has something that hook me up, i can't help it. I agree with Oda in one of the interviews, where he can't help but feel annoyed or angry whenever somebody speaks ill to One Piece characters, even if that character is a villain. For example, when a person comments "This villain is weak!", Oda has the urge to make that villain becomes stronger. Guess that say a lot about Bellamy thing, perhaps.
One more thing is i do some art as well. It may due to my sympathy or stuff along the line that makes me wanna give the chapter high rating, when i notice the small detail Oda put in there, thickness of the pen used, etc. Hence i love reading manga online, because we can see that detail in bigger size than the size of toukobon (manga volume). Besides, that rating point is subjective indeed, it's not like it divides into a few sub categories that make up for the overall rating.
That's why we have discussion thread for each chapter. Though the rating is like a value in a nutshell, we're free to complain anything or say whatever in the said thread.
It's just me.
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Next chapter, i predict the following will happen :
-Chapter cover: Wadatsumi meets the people above.
-We see what is going on at Franky's side of the battle.
-Franky gets the upperhand and we probably get to see Senor Pinks' fangirls screaming, "SENOR PINK~~~ SO HARD BOILED~~!!!"
-Gladius gets cuts down as well by Cavendish/Hakuba.
-Robin reaches where Kyros and Rebecca are.
-Kyros is wounded.
-Tontatta action! (Scene)
-Chapter cover: Wadatsumi meets the people above.
-We see what is going on at Franky's side of the battle.
-Franky gets the upperhand and we probably get to see Senor Pinks' fangirls screaming, "SENOR PINK~~~ SO HARD BOILED~~!!!"
-Gladius gets cuts down as well by Cavendish/Hakuba.
-Robin reaches where Kyros and Rebecca are.
-Kyros is wounded.
-Tontatta action! (Scene)
Really wanna know why the whole ruins have became.....ruined... Possibly because Wadatsumi steals that offerings
Hope that the manliest battle of 2014 will be ended on the next chapter, or next two chapters. Franky needs to destroy that factory fast or else... Or Oda is waiting for the perfect moment to show the pile of their victories i guess. Both Caesar and Momo have been taken away, while the SAD production is stopped completely thanks to Law back in PH, and the factory will be down as well. Dressrosa people are free to move as Doffy is weakened by Luffy.
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I don't see how guy who give 5/5 every week can complain how someone give any lower rank than 3/5. (not pointed at you just overall)
I said I would hate, but what would you consider 2/5?? Just curious.
I don't see how guy who give 5/5 every week can complain how someone give any lower rank than 3/5. (not pointed at you just overall)
I said I would hate, but what would you consider 2/5?? Just curious.
It's saddening we have no chapter this week U_U
2/5 huh...When it takes a huge bad turn of event. Such as in Pell's case (i rather have him died in honour but oh well). Yet the ending for that chapter at the same time would prevent me from rating it 2/5 as i considered the other points (though it's not like i've joined any forum to rate it at such particular moment). More or less it'd be like 3 to 4 over 5. The lowest rate i have ever given for a chapter is 3, while most of the times i rate them either 4 or 5.
I consider any character development as a bonus, regardless fodder or not. One thing i realise about Oda is he's not that good to portray a consistent great fight in the story, compare to other shonen mangaka. Most would be half-finished, or hypes, and the best fight so far is Lucci vs Luffy, yet the power descriptions and other story elements in the series overpower such weakness.
As a reader, either for books or mangas, perhaps these explain generally what type we're categorising ourselves into;
Oh, you. You pretend to be curmudgeonly, you do, but you really just devour the reading you do in a different way. You're loving it nearly as much as you're hating it, and maybe then some, even as you complain the author can't put two sentences together properly or that the book is dragging hopelessly in the middle and what kind of plot twist is that, even? An elephant in Act 3? These characters are so poorly drawn as to be comical! You call that a conclusion? Vampires, really?
If you are a hate reader you will finish each hate read down to its very last word, and you may well close the covers and toss the volume across the room, but you will do it with a great, secret frisson of satisfaction because it feels so good. You may be an aspiring, disgruntled novelist yourself. Suggested hate reads: Twilight; Fifty Shades of Grey; any much-celebrated novelist's latest offering that's bound to be arguably less than all the hype.
Slow and steady wins the race, dear reader. You are the tortoise to the promiscuous reader's distracted-at-any-turn hare. You buy a book, you read it. You buy another, you read it. Perhaps you borrow a book at the library. You read it, and then you return it, and you get another, which you will read.
You may not remember where you began, what the first book that kicked it all off was, and you likely have no idea where you'll end, but the point is, you will go through each book methodically and reasonably, until it is done. You might discard a book, but only if there is very good cause, and it will bring you a sense of deep unease, so you'll probably pick it back up and finish it anyway. You are very good at puzzles, and the most reliable of all your friends. Suggested chronological reads: It doesn't matter; you'll get to them all, eventually.
There's a lot more, but i just wanna highlight that every fan of OP is a true fan when they say they do, when they say they follow the OP update till now, when they critic the series yet they go on reading it, including when they worship OP much more than average fans can be. The difference of opinions are only due to one's own personal preference. Nobody is trying to show on what level of wise in regards to one's review, most members tend to take it that way. The best criticism and debate are when there are proves to back up such opinions. Even if the preference is varies between you and me, either you or me will respect each other still if we have something that supports our actions/choices, despite in the end we agree to disagree.
Well... Then... It's like saying people shouldn't talk about poverty because they weren't leading a poor life themselves.
2/5 huh...When it takes a huge bad turn of event. Such as in Pell's case (i rather have him died in honour but oh well). Yet the ending for that chapter at the same time would prevent me from rating it 2/5 as i considered the other points (though it's not like i've joined any forum to rate it at such particular moment). More or less it'd be like 3 to 4 over 5. The lowest rate i have ever given for a chapter is 3, while most of the times i rate them either 4 or 5.
I consider any character development as a bonus, regardless fodder or not. One thing i realise about Oda is he's not that good to portray a consistent great fight in the story, compare to other shonen mangaka. Most would be half-finished, or hypes, and the best fight so far is Lucci vs Luffy, yet the power descriptions and other story elements in the series overpower such weakness.
As a reader, either for books or mangas, perhaps these explain generally what type we're categorising ourselves into;
The Hate Reader
Oh, you. You pretend to be curmudgeonly, you do, but you really just devour the reading you do in a different way. You're loving it nearly as much as you're hating it, and maybe then some, even as you complain the author can't put two sentences together properly or that the book is dragging hopelessly in the middle and what kind of plot twist is that, even? An elephant in Act 3? These characters are so poorly drawn as to be comical! You call that a conclusion? Vampires, really?
If you are a hate reader you will finish each hate read down to its very last word, and you may well close the covers and toss the volume across the room, but you will do it with a great, secret frisson of satisfaction because it feels so good. You may be an aspiring, disgruntled novelist yourself. Suggested hate reads: Twilight; Fifty Shades of Grey; any much-celebrated novelist's latest offering that's bound to be arguably less than all the hype.
The Chronological Reader
Slow and steady wins the race, dear reader. You are the tortoise to the promiscuous reader's distracted-at-any-turn hare. You buy a book, you read it. You buy another, you read it. Perhaps you borrow a book at the library. You read it, and then you return it, and you get another, which you will read.
You may not remember where you began, what the first book that kicked it all off was, and you likely have no idea where you'll end, but the point is, you will go through each book methodically and reasonably, until it is done. You might discard a book, but only if there is very good cause, and it will bring you a sense of deep unease, so you'll probably pick it back up and finish it anyway. You are very good at puzzles, and the most reliable of all your friends. Suggested chronological reads: It doesn't matter; you'll get to them all, eventually.
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There's a lot more, but i just wanna highlight that every fan of OP is a true fan when they say they do, when they say they follow the OP update till now, when they critic the series yet they go on reading it, including when they worship OP much more than average fans can be. The difference of opinions are only due to one's own personal preference. Nobody is trying to show on what level of wise in regards to one's review, most members tend to take it that way. The best criticism and debate are when there are proves to back up such opinions. Even if the preference is varies between you and me, either you or me will respect each other still if we have something that supports our actions/choices, despite in the end we agree to disagree.
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No, if you would insult poor life than it would be the same. Talking and disscussing about low and high rankings are ok, but why complaing about low rankings??
Also, the problem you have is that you consider only good part of the chapter... If first part was bad, and I give it 1/5 and other part was perfect (5/5), my ranking for that chapter will never be 5/5, since first part was really bad, that can only be 3/5..
- You should separate term "critism" and "hating".
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Hopefully the next chapter will wrap up Hakuba vs Gladius and Franky vs Pink. Franky and Pink were the first current fight that was set up iirc so their fight should be close to an end.
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Franky and Pink have been the most boring part of this arc tbh. I'd love for it to end next chapter.
It's not just a matter of insulting alone though. It's everything about it. Well, nvm.
Hm? Isn't such situation the same as complaining the high ranking? :heh: Like I said, that's why we have discussion thread. If a ranking value is bothering someone, he's allowed to ask and demand explanation. Just like you did, and just as i did
Lel like i've stated, in my case, the poor points have always being overwhelmed by the good points of the chapter, to which in my opinion, are satisfying for a reader like me. People have other kind of taste anyway. I know how you rank it, and i carry it out similarly as yours (considering both worse and good parts then conclude it in average value). The only difference is how bad you think that first part is, and how bad i think that one instead. Who knows i actually like it, completely contradicting yours.
Not my theory
It's from an author of a certain site (there's the link up there though). Hate is a part of criticism tbh, but i know the word 'critic' is much better. We always critic someone/thing we love. *_*
Hopefully so. Franky should really get going to destroy the factory, unless Oda wants to double up the impact, like their important aims are achieved at the same time altogether. Luffy defeats Doffy, Birdcage collapse, people cheer that they're no longer in control, RA able to find things they're looking for, factory is destroyed, Kyros overpowers Diamante, Zoro wins in his fight with Pica. Kinda like that.
Well, it's the manliest battle of 2014 and now we're in 2015... It should've ended in a few weeks of this month.
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