[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 761 Discussion and 762 Predictions

[Punk Hazard]

... You make no sense. Oda isn't a cliche idoit.
Oh you know that thing that we do every other arc now, ancient weapons, lets make that the ancient weapon.
Plus we already saw that idoit
Shichibukai takes over island [X]
Straw hats help helpless princess take it back [X]
Evil plan and underworld [X]
Powerful Girl that helps his plans [X]
A family that is a actually a world noble appears [X]
Rebelion [X]
Ancient weapon [..]

If the secret was a weapon we could just chalk this up as a rip off Alabasta.
Super cliche. Super Predictable. Chances are if you use your brain. Its not a Weapon like that.

That actually falls under personal preference. A long time ago, when we were first getting real exposition on the Dressrosa arc, many commended the similarities between Alabasta and Dressrosa. You consider it a rip off and cliche, I consider it parallelism. You may dislike it if it were to happen, while I will enjoy the way Oda can have so many similarities, following a backbone that connects the two arcs, and yet still manage to tell two separate stories about it. And we both have others that are also on our side.

Just because you consider it bad won't make it bad, and just because I consider it good won't make it good. Also, I'd like you to tell me how it's cliche. Point out the specific cliche that Oda would be doing if he uses the literary device(and please tell me you know the difference between this and cliche) of parallelism. Otherwise, you're just one of the many who throw around the word cliche because it sounds fancy, when there is none. I could also site several differences between this and Alabasta:

1. Dressrosa had the introduction of a new species, Alabasta had none
2. Dressrosa had the first pirate alliance Luffy has made, Alabasta didn't
3. Dressrosa has included an Admiral, Alabasta hasn't
4. Dressrosa has included a Yonko, Alabasta hasn't.
5. Luffy was a match for Alabasta's villain, but isn't for Dressrosa
6. Alabasta had no tournament, Dressrosa doesn't.

I find it funny how in "One Piece sucks!" threads, people love to cite that Oda's ability to connect information in arcs to each other, past and future, Oda's ability to take information in the past and continue and expand it while presenting new information, is one of the series strongest traits, but then in discussions within the fandom, it's gonna be cliche, and bad, and predictable.

Everyone has predicted Luffy will fight Teach.
I predict Oda will have further exposition on Devil Fruits.
I predict Oda will reveal the information on Ancient Weapons.
We all predict Luffy will become King of the Pirates, Zoro will be WSM, Usopp will be brave
I predict Luffy wlll meet Shanks again

If these things happen, will you say "These things were predictable, this writing sucks"?
Just because you know the information will be revealed doesn't mean it was predictable. Just because you say "Yeah it was predicted the National Treasure has a connection with the ancient weapons" doesn't mean the actual connection was predictable. Notice how, so far, people have predicted the treasure may have a connection with the weapons, but no one has been able to actually post an in-depth connection? That's why if a connection is revealed, it won't be bad writing.

Oh, by the way, the next time you want to call someone an idiot just to spice up your argument, try not to misspell such a basic word. Twice. Makes you look like a pot talking to a kettle.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I cringe every time someone brings up Uranus in all of this. It's almost as if you don't think Oda has more creativity than that.

Yea even though the National Treasure being Uranus makes perfect sense and lots of other guesses about what it is have holes in them or rely on "you technically cant dispove it" lets just dismiss it being Uranus since it doesn't fit your definition of creative enough.

 

[Skylar Knight]

I find it funny how in "One Piece sucks!" threads, people love to cite that Oda's ability to connect information in arcs to each other, past and future, Oda's ability to take information in the past and continue and expand it while presenting new information, is one of the series strongest traits, but then in discussions within the fandom, it's gonna be cliche, and bad, and predictable.

Everyone has predicted Luffy will fight Teach.
I predict Oda will have further exposition on Devil Fruits.
I predict Oda will reveal the information on Ancient Weapons.
We all predict Luffy will become King of the Pirates, Zoro will be WSM, Usopp will be brave
I predict Luffy wlll meet Shanks again

If these things happen, will you say "These things were predictable, this writing sucks"?
Just because you know the information will be revealed doesn't mean it was predictable. Just because you say "Yeah it was predicted the National Treasure has a connection with the ancient weapons" doesn't mean the actual connection was predictable. Notice how, so far, people have predicted the treasure may have a connection with the weapons, but no one has been able to actually post an in-depth connection? That's why if a connection is revealed, it won't be bad writing.

There's a difference between "I know we're going to have dinner" and "I know what's for dinner", if that makes sense. We know certain things are going to happen eventually, but not how.

Yea even though the National Treasure being Uranus makes perfect sense and lots of other guesses about what it is have holes in them or rely on "you technically cant dispove it" lets just dismiss it being Uranus since it doesn't fit your definition of creative enough.

Yes, please, let's just dismiss it. You fail to realize that even this theory, about Uranus, has holes in it.

1. Why would a weapon be their national treasure? It once belonged to the enemy, after all; the Ancient Civilization. Not exactly the least controversial example, but it's as if Japan were to start treasuring the 'Fat Man' and 'Little Boy'. I just don't see it.

2. How would the existence of a weapon shake the world to its core? It's not like things became chaotic once people were informed about the atomic bombs, back in the days. Nowadays we know certain countries could erase the planet multiple times, if possible, yet people don't bat an eye. It's in the hands of the Government they so trust, so there's no problem.

That's really all I have to say about it. It doesn't make perfect sense, not at all. I find it illogical and uncreative, but I guess that's just me.

 

[Punk Hazard]

There's a difference between "I know we're going to have dinner" and "I know what's for dinner", if that makes sense. We know certain things are going to happen eventually, but not how.



Yes, please, let's just dismiss it. You fail to realize that even this theory, about Uranus, has holes in it.

1. Why would a weapon be their national treasure? It once belonged to the enemy, after all; the Ancient Civilization. Not exactly the least controversial example, but it's as if Japan were to start treasuring the 'Fat Man' and 'Little Boy'. I just don't see it.

2. How would the existence of a weapon shake the world to its core? It's not like things became chaotic once people were informed about the atomic bombs, back in the days. Nowadays we know certain countries could erase the planet multiple times, if possible, yet people don't bat an eye. It's in the hands of the Government they so trust, so there's no problem.

That's really all I have to say about it. It doesn't make perfect sense, not at all. I find it illogical and uncreative, but I guess that's just me.

Yeah that's what I mean. We may be able to predict that the National Treasure has a connection to an Ancient Weapon, but we don't know what that connection is, same we know we're gonna have dinner, but not what we're gonna have for dinner.

My personal theory is that the National Treasure is a major Poneglyph. I believe the Poneglyph was treasured by the Tenryuubito, and contains some details about the Void Century, as well as other details. However, the details show some insight on a dark side of the Tenryuubito and World Government, something no one other than them knows about, and the revelation of such can cause extreme distrust between the World Government and its followers. I believe it may be related to the usage of one of the Ancient Weapons, maybe a genocide. If the world found out about it, it could lead to mass revolutions and outcry, or at the very least, very strong distrust to the WG, hence why they keep it locked away in Mariejois. Poneglyphs are indestructible, so they can't just destroy it. It means a lot to them, so they can't just toss it away. It has dangerous info on it, so they can't just leave it out in the open world where someone may find it.

Or, it could be the weapon. We've seen the weapons take more than one form, Poseidon is a living person, and Pluton is a ship. Have you played the Assassin's Creed games, where there's a weapon called the Apple of Eden or something like that, and it takes the form a golden sphere. Maybe Uranus is a large jewel, or diamond, or a sword encrusted with extremely valuable metals and gems, with some sort of power. As seen with Poseidon, the weapons don't have to be directly damaging, they don't have to be like bombs, or cannons or laser beams, it can something like the ability to talk to and control Sea Kings. Maybe Uranus is one of the things I mentioned earlier with the power to raise the dead, or erase and instill memories, or teleport, or control the weather.

 

[Listz]

Yeah that's what I mean. We may be able to predict that the National Treasure has a connection to an Ancient Weapon, but we don't know what that connection is, same we know we're gonna have dinner, but not what we're gonna have for dinner.

My personal theory is that the National Treasure is a major Poneglyph. I believe the Poneglyph was treasured by the Tenryuubito, and contains some details about the Void Century, as well as other details. However, the details show some insight on a dark side of the Tenryuubito and World Government, something no one other than them knows about, and the revelation of such can cause extreme distrust between the World Government and its followers. I believe it may be related to the usage of one of the Ancient Weapons, maybe a genocide. If the world found out about it, it could lead to mass revolutions and outcry, or at the very least, very strong distrust to the WG, hence why they keep it locked away in Mariejois. Poneglyphs are indestructible, so they can't just destroy it. It means a lot to them, so they can't just toss it away. It has dangerous info on it, so they can't just leave it out in the open world where someone may find it.

^_^ Somehow i like this one. Then it makes me think that the National Treasure is a super same concept with the one Ryugu Kingdom has been protecting for ages; the Tamate Box. Also means that both Uranus and National Treasure mentioned in the recent chapter are different matters. If your theory suggests it as a Poneglyph, it must have a very important message crafted on, where Tenryuubito went a great deal to hide it (like cooperating with Doffy the fallen Tenyasha).