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One Piece Manga Chapter 1058 Discussion and 1059 Predictions

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Why jinbei bounty is higher than sanji's?, wasn't queen is the second in commander??
Maybe because Jinbei was a former Shichibukai?

Maybe because Jinbei was a former pirate captain himself?

Maybe because he had a higher bounty going in to Wano so his total may be higher but his increase rate is lower?

Maybe because a lot of people still perceive him as slightly stronger? Just because Sanji beat Queen doesn't mean Jinbei couldn't also have beat him.
 

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Did Oda write this chapter specifically to make up for shafting Zoro and dropping all his plotlines at the end of Wano? If he did, he mostly, but not entirely succeeded.

I like getting to see the little bits of the crew on the Sunny (and no Carrot or Caribou is good too, although they may still appear). In fact, I could have taken this chapter over two, one for Strawhats, one for Cross Guild and Revos.


Strawhat bounties
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Being honest, not a fan of most. It’s like Oda had these all planned at the start of Wano, changed his mind during Wano about what they would achieve and then just stuck to them at the end anyway. Anyway


Chopper’s joke wasn’t especially funny at Dressrosa and it’s just obnoxious now. Give him a real bounty ffs.

I think generic raises are cheap and lacking in effort. It means Usopp in particualr gets far more than he deserves while Franky got shafted. Franky’s bounty poster presumably setup for a Sunny Mecha.

I like Robin’s.

Jinbei, Sanji, Zoro. Now, from a fanboy perspective, I love Jinbei, I can laugh at Sanji fans. I am delighted that it looks like Oda will keep Jinbei as a top four guy. This does remind me that really, Jinbei should have beaten Jack instead of wasting him on trashing WW (which cost Brook a fight). And I think Zoro’s is too low.


Honestly, think it would have made more sense for Jinbei and Sanji to swap bounties and Zoro just having a flat 1.2 billion. I don’t really get these numbers, but oh well. It is what it is. Sucks to be Sanji.

Cross Guild. I fucking love CG. It’s the best thing Oda’s done in years. I was never worried that Mihawk wouldn’t be strong- what I was worried about was that he would just be this strong guy that Zoro and Shanks has fought and that is the extent of his role. This is a very, very welcome change. First, that’s it’s giving him other characters to play off- and two of my favourites to boot. Second, we’re getting an interesting Mihawk backstory. A Marine Hunter? That’s very interesting considering how little there is to benefit someone in doing that. Also, a hint at being betrayed in the past? Was Mihawk betrayed by Marines and that’s why he hunted them?


Mihawk and Croc bullying Buggy is excellent, especially since it seems some folk here genuinely needed reminded what Buggy’s gag is. He’s fucking fodder. He rises to positions he does not deserve. Croc showing more charisma in a few pages than the Wano villains did in 150 fucking chapters.

CG bounties

Is Croc’s complete and utter fanservice? Yes. Do I care? No, because I’m one of the fans it’s servicing. If Oda wants to make Croc insanely strong than be my guest.

Buggy. Lol.

Mihawk. Had to be that high, cause Kid and Law’s was so stupidly high despite havig garbage crews. I find two things interesting about it

-he’s now, roughly, 2.5 billion away from Zoro, which is the same distance Luffy is from Roger.
-there’s a ~500 mil difference between Mihawk and Shanks… the same as between Roger and Whitebeard.

Think both could be deliberate. You just know the line comparing him to Shanks has been done deliberately by Oda to stir some fan wars, I still think we’re going to see Shanks and Mihawk as the mid-gen Roger (Shanks) and WB (Mihawk).


The RA: now, please god Oda, I’m on bended knees here. You’re giving Mihawk great stuff. Do the same for Dragon, please. Hell, let him kill Sabo if he wants, idc. With Kuma’s state and the coverstory I think the next arc (or, if the next arc is short, the next big one) could be the RA trying to get Kuma healed by Vegapunk, meeting the Strawhats, along with Caeser and Germa for some MADS reunions. It does seem that some mix of the RA, CG and Shanks are the next big plotline.

And of course, this is interesting because someone seems to have sunk right into the background where he delights in being- Blackbeard. This is where he shines, when the world’s eyes are elsewhere. As far as everyone else is concerned- at least bounty wise- he’s not that big a threat. He will do something huge at some point to disabuse them of that notion.

Also as an aside, I think we can just dismiss Blackbeard’s current bounty and the fifth emperor thing. I think Oda just doesn’t care about Blackbeard’s bounty compared to everyone else until it rises to it’s peak, which will be 5 billion plus.

And I think we can just flat put ignore Wano Luffy being the fifth emperor. I don’t think it was mentioned once in Wano, Oda’s giving people like Croc a bounty over it, it just seems like an idea Oda had one chapter then decided he didn’t like it right after.

Anyway, for bounties I’m interesting in seeing Mihawk vs Ray (and to a lesser extent, Oden). Also thinking that the RH and the eventual BB bounties might make the old Yonko ones we’ve seen look like shit. Like, I’m not going to be surprised if random folk like Lime Juice and Vasco Shot have billion plus bounties over Katakuri and if Beckman is 2 to 3 billion himself.

Further thoughts on this chapter

-Two power house Shichibukai and Buggy is grounds for entertaining chapters and the fact shady businesses are funding them to hunt marines specifically? That's a whole new angle to anything else we've seen before.

-Crocodile and Mihawk have a great dynamic of mutual respect and mutual brutality. I hope it continues, it's pretty nice to see two hard characters like them interact in such a way instead of being forced into a petty rivalry.

-Now Boa and Weevil are left to be seen what happened to them.

-Also, the Sabo plot look interesting.! I wonder if he learnt anything related to Imu-sama!
 

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Awh, I wanted to have a chapter where Brannew explains to a bunch of marines the new Strawhat bounties one by one, similarly to the chapter where he explained the history of the Xebec Pirates.

Oh, well, at least I hope we're going to have a Decks of the World vol 3 cover story after the current Vinsmoke one has finished.
 

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Bounties in this chapter is kinda stupid.

Starting with Strawhats it makes no sense for Zoro n Sanji to have bounty below king n Queen.

Zoro fought with Killer, Hawkins, Apoo, BM, Kaido n King throughout Wano and could only earn lil above 1bil is laughable. Especially when Luffy got 1.5bil bounty just fighting Cracker n Katakuri.

Jinbei n Sanji bounty also makes no sense as Jinbei gave up his Rank 2yrs back n should have got a raise post WCI not post Wano. Sanji on the other hand should have remain no.3 interms of bounty in the crew.
Ussop did nothing in Wano n still got a raise. He should have got that bounty post Dressrosa when Doffy gave him that much bounty.

Coming to Cross Guild. What was Oda thinking when he gave Buggy 3bil+ bounty just on the rumour that he was the leader. Heck Law, Kid n Luffy need to dethrone 2Yonkos just to hit that mark and Buggy got that just like that.
Crocodile bounty is near 2bil is kinda BS. He lost to Pre TS Luffy and now Oda inserted that he's far more dangerous than Commanders who has future sight or lost races.
Lastly Mihawk's statement that his skill passes Shanks wasn't necessary at all. We all know he's WSS.

Only good part was Robin's bounty. Finally she got recognised. If now Oda start giving her some haki will complete Robin in my opinion. Also Nami has CoC🤨 That's quite interesting.
 

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Bounties in this chapter is kinda stupid.

Starting with Strawhats it makes no sense for Zoro n Sanji to have bounty below king n Queen.

Zoro fought with Killer, Hawkins, Apoo, BM, Kaido n King throughout Wano and could only earn lil above 1bil is laughable. Especially when Luffy got 1.5bil bounty just fighting Cracker n Katakuri.

Jinbei n Sanji bounty also makes no sense as Jinbei gave up his Rank 2yrs back n should have got a raise post WCI not post Wano. Sanji on the other hand should have remain no.3 interms of bounty in the crew.
Ussop did nothing in Wano n still got a raise. He should have got that bounty post Dressrosa when Doffy gave him that much bounty.

Coming to Cross Guild. What was Oda thinking when he gave Buggy 3bil+ bounty just on the rumour that he was the leader. Heck Law, Kid n Luffy need to dethrone 2Yonkos just to hit that mark and Buggy got that just like that.
Crocodile bounty is near 2bil is kinda BS. He lost to Pre TS Luffy and now Oda inserted that he's far more dangerous than Commanders who has future sight or lost races.
Lastly Mihawk's statement that his skill passes Shanks wasn't necessary at all. We all know he's WSS.

Only good part was Robin's bounty. Finally she got recognised. If now Oda start giving her some haki will complete Robin in my opinion. Also Nami has CoC🤨 That's quite interesting.
Jinbei's bounty was reinstated two years ago when he fought against the WG in Marineford. He had a higher bounty than Sanji going into Wano so him having a slightly higher bounty at the end isn't insane. Sanji technically had a bigger boubty increase this arc.
 

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Jinbei's bounty was reinstated two years ago when he fought against the WG in Marineford. He had a higher bounty than Sanji going into Wano so him having a slightly higher bounty at the end isn't insane. Sanji technically had a bigger boubty increase this arc.
My point was if Jinbei was supposed to get a raise(that much) solely on the basis of - "He was former Shichibukai/ex-captain of Sun pirates" then the raise should have been visible post WCI.

Whereas his bounty was shown 438mil when he joined during Raid.
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During raid Jinbei fought Who's who whose bounty was 546mil whereas Queen bounty was 1.3bil. It's more than double. Yet Jinbei now has more bounty as if he defeated one of the commanders.
 

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My point was if Jinbei was supposed to get a raise(that much) solely on the basis of - "He was former Shichibukai/ex-captain of Sun pirates" then the raise should have been visible post WCI.

Whereas his bounty was shown 438mil when he joined during Raid.
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During raid Jinbei fought Who's who whose bounty was 546mil whereas Queen bounty was 1.3bil. It's more than double. Yet Jinbei now has more bounty as if he defeated one of the commanders.
I don't see the issue. Jinbei started with a higher bounty than Sanji. He beat a weaker opponent than Sanji. His bounty increased at a smaller rate than Sanji's because of it. Now he and Sanji's bounties are almost even. It's like you're mad someone with a head start is still ahead of someone who started on time.

Also Jinbei's 438 mil bounty was from before he left the BM pirates I believe so all his contributions from then would also have been figured into his new bounty.

Just because you beat someone doesn't mean your bounty automatically jumps above them.

Also I don't think the Croc thing is that much bs either. People focus too much on timeline bias rather than context of a character. Just because a character loses early or is introduced later doesn't determine their actual strength. Hody was intro'd in the New World but he's not beating Croc or Enel.

Let's not forget Croc beat and almost killed Luffy twice. Knowing what we know now about Luffy and his fruit we can reasonably argue the reason he even won that fight wasn't a difference in power but rather because his fruit was bringing to life Luffy's imagination of beating Croc.
 

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I don't see the issue. Jinbei started with a higher bounty than Sanji. He beat a weaker opponent than Sanji. His bounty increased at a smaller rate than Sanji's because of it. Now he and Sanji's bounties are almost even. It's like you're mad someone with a head start is still ahead of someone who started on time.

Also Jinbei's 438 mil bounty was from before he left the BM pirates I believe so all his contributions from then would also have been figured into his new bounty.

Just because you beat someone doesn't mean your bounty automatically jumps above them.
Sanji's bounty was higher than Zoro post WCI.
Jinbei also have higher bounty.
Still Zoro is back to his 2nd highest bounty lvl post Wano in crew.
Jinbei 438mil consists of his WCI activities.
He got a bil bounty just beating Who's who(who wasn't even a commander). Other than that he did nothing. Whereas Sanji fought Page one, Drake, King n Queen. That's lyk 3 commander lvl guys he fought throughout Wano n still got a bounty below Jinbei🤦



Also I don't think the Croc thing is that much bs either. People focus too much on timeline bias rather than context of a character. Just because a character loses early or is introduced later doesn't determine their actual strength. Hody was intro'd in the New World but he's not beating Croc or Enel.

Let's not forget Croc beat and almost killed Luffy twice. Knowing what we know now about Luffy and his fruit we can reasonably argue the reason he even won that fight wasn't a difference in power but rather because his fruit was bringing to life Luffy's imagination of beating Croc.
Crocodile was defeated by pre TS Luffy who didn't even have gears that point. We saw Luffy needed G4 n outside interference in defeating guys lyk Cracker n Katakuri. Still Crocodile bounty is higher than all the commanders makes no sense. It's lyk Oda is trying to insert that Shichibukais were all Commander lvl guys or even higher which Luffy faced Pre TS.
 
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