[Discussion] One piece magazine starring ace

[Punk Hazard]

I'll respond to you in a sec Chopstick.

I always laugh at this, Mihawk was put in situations where he should have shown haki. Attacking the worlds strongest man is one of them.

You know Mihawk didn't use Haki...how? Unlike Ace, who outright declared that he wasn't using Haki.

Mihawk having haki is as much as a fact as Ace having haki, neither have shown it despite having several panels in the war.

Except Ace has situations where Haki was needed, and he didn't. So either Ace is stupid and decided to not use a power he needed to use, or he wasn't able to use it.

Another perfect example is Doflamingo, lmfao heck if anything he proved he didn't have haki when he attacked Crocodile and it did nothing to him.

If you surmised at that point in time that Doflamingo didn't have Haki, then that's nothing against you. Nothing at the time indicated that he did. What you're doing is trying to pat yourself on the back for taking something that MIGHT be true as absolute fact just because it's logical, and trying to act like people who wait for the confirmation are wrong for waiting and not jumping the gun.

That is if you are retarded, we all knew Doflamingo had Haki before showing it despite being put in situations where he needed it.

No we didn't. Some people might have guessed it, but nobody knew it.

 

[ToshiZO]

I'll respond to you in a sec Chopstick.


You know Mihawk didn't use Haki...how? Unlike Ace, who outright declared that he wasn't using Haki.

Lmfao and then you contradict this very statement with the rest of your post.

Except Ace has situations where Haki was needed, and he didn't. So either Ace is stupid and decided to not use a power he needed to use, or he wasn't able to use it.

Who said Ace wasn't using haki in the war against Akainu? Lmfao....listen to this guy, says one thing for one character, and sets completely different terms for another.

If you surmised at that point in time that Doflamingo didn't have Haki, then that's nothing against you. Nothing at the time indicated that he did. What you're doing is trying to pat yourself on the back for taking something that MIGHT be true as absolute fact just because it's logical, and trying to act like people who wait for the confirmation are wrong for waiting and not jumping the gun.

L for typing this nonsense out.

It's as simple as this, pre timeskip haki feats were not dished out. Doflamingo put in situations where haki was needed, other characters put in situations where easily should have shown it.

Its not until post skip that Oda even knew what he wanted to do. You sound hella stupid taking a writer's shortcomings to penalize characters that clearly (clearly being an understatement) have haki.

Ace could use haki, it's manga canon. If it's not manga canon, then I don't want to see you ever saying Mihawk has haki in a vs thread.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lmfao and then you contradict this very statement with the rest of your post.



Who said Ace wasn't using haki in the war against Akainu? Lmfao....listen to this guy, says one thing for one character, and sets completely different terms for another.

1. Who was talking about vs Akainu?

2. Ace openly declared he wasn't using Haki against Teach, even when he knew he was a Logia. He was openly seen not using Haki against Smoker since he couldn't bypass his powers. That puts his "Haki-less" situations in a completely different basket than Mihawk's, since the latter is inconclusive at best while with Ace's situations, we have definitive answers that Haki wasn't used.

L for typing this nonsense out.

It's as simple as this, pre timeskip haki feats were not dished out. Doflamingo put in situations where haki was needed, other characters put in situations where easily should have shown it.

And that's fine. It's why it's perfectly acceptable to not give people Haki feats until the manga confirms they have Haki. That's not really that hard.

Its not until post skip that Oda even knew what he wanted to do.

Considering Oda displayed Haki in chapter one and gave the explanation for Haki pre-skip, you're just wrong on this front.

Ace could use haki, it's manga canon

If you wanna make this claim, show the scan of him being manga canon.

If it's not manga canon, then I don't want to see you ever saying Mihawk has haki in a vs thread.

Except Mihawk doesn't have circumstances that detract from his likelihood of having Haki. Ace does.

 

[ToshiZO]

No real arguments then, thought so. Already went through the Ace vs BB scene with you, and you weren't making much sense back then either. You have no proof that was haki in chapter 1 lmfao, none at all. Until proven otherwise, that is just straight up intimidation which has been done in countless series. Nothing concrete enough to call that haki.

Takeaway: Mihawk doesn't have haki according to Riker, not till its confirmed. Cool.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No real arguments then, thought so.

If you can't refute them, might as well cop out amirite?

Already went through the Ace vs BB scene with you, and you weren't making much sense back then either.

@Bold: Says you.

Your argument back then made no sense, considering Ace would have no reason to want to test out Teach's ability.

You have no proof that was haki in chapter 1 lmfao, none at all. Until proven otherwise, that is just straight up intimidation which has been done in countless series. Nothing concrete enough to call that haki.

Except the scene was identical to when Luffy used it on Duval's bison[

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Even if that wasn't Haki back in part one, as the above scan shows, there are still several instances of Haki before the timeskip, in all three of its forms that have carried over to after the timeskip. Not to mention the fact that Haki's very explanation came before the timeskip. Now you sound stupid saying that Oda didn't have Haki planned out when Ace fought Teach despite the fact that Oda has shit like Sanji's history in North Blue and the connections between Kaido, Big Mom, and Doflamingo years before they appeared in the story.

It's funny how you say there's no proof that it was Haki, but then call others ridiculous when they say there's no proof that Ace had Haki. I could make all the connections to it being Haki, just like you're making all these connections for Ace having Buso Haki, and you'd still cling to there being no proof like the hypocrite you are.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Awesome! Ace will have his own anime soon! I expect another light novel of Shanks.

 

[ToshiZO]

If you can't refute them, might as well cop out amirite?



@Bold: Says you.

Your argument back then made no sense, considering Ace would have no reason to want to test out Teach's ability.



Except the scene was identical to when Luffy used it on Duval's bison[

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Even if that wasn't Haki back in part one, as the above scan shows, there are still several instances of Haki before the timeskip, in all three of its forms that have carried over to after the timeskip. Not to mention the fact that Haki's very explanation came before the timeskip. Now you sound stupid saying that Oda didn't have Haki planned out when Ace fought Teach despite the fact that Oda has shit like Sanji's history in North Blue and the connections between Kaido, Big Mom, and Doflamingo years before they appeared in the story.

It's funny how you say there's no proof that it was Haki, but then call others ridiculous when they say there's no proof that Ace had Haki. I could make all the connections to it being Haki, just like you're making all these connections for Ace having Buso Haki, and you'd still cling to there being no proof like the hypocrite you are.

L.

already had that same haki discussion, until proven with something concrete it's just another author going back and calling something which wasn't written in at the time, something else. Luffy doing it, is not proof, that is just the author matching what he drew earlier in the series, and calling it haki.

I'm not making any connections for Ace, there are no connections to be made, it's canon he has haki.

 

[Fireplay]

Been waiting for this.