[Discussion] One Piece Fights: Difficulty Scale

[ToshiZO]

Sabo was battered and bruised before Fujitora started sorta trying?

People keep saying Fujitora wasn't trying, that wasn't the case at all he was definitely trying and he wasn't pulling any punches either, he wasn't going full out but he was not holding back with the attacks he displayed. The same can be said for Sabo as well I doubt he showed everything he has, but he definitely wasn't holding back.

This is what we saw. A clash

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and then we have no idea what went on in between we saw a couple scratches on

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and him breathing heavily for a moment, we can assume he was senting some quality attacks at him cause from what we saw even the named attack he sent didn't pose too much trouble for

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Fair enough though as I implied in my post above that this kind of difficulty is given due to how serious was each character or how determined they were and infact one was fighting to protect his brother the other was just fooling around and stalling for time, though If I would rate this fight I think that mid diff is the reasonable diff to this fight, of course as of now until more is shown.

Yea ofcourse but if youre simply a stronger character, stalling will not be hard for you, you would just need to match the pace of your enemy which happens to be Sabo, Fujitora seemed like he was sending some of his stronger attacks at Sabo. Still didn't really hinder Sabo much.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Stopped reading after Zoro vs Fujitora - since when did Fujitora defeat Zoro.

 

[BSK]

And you hardly ever know what you are talking about. You shouldn't be commenting as you are one of the dumbest and most ignorant "debaters" I've ever seen and my sig shows a small example of that. Idiots like you should remain silent. Oh am I being rude? That's because your an idiot.



I highly doubt Sabo wasn't serious against ana dmiral and I aint judging fights based off "what ifs"



Sabo vs Fujitora- highly doubt Sabo can push Fujitora to any sort of high diff when he couldn't scratch Fujitora when he wasn't serious. Not only was Fujitora not serious, he was just stalling and Sabo got riddled in scratches and was breathing heavily. Sabo was clrealy on the losing end of a pretty one-sided fight so med diff is a bit to high to me as it wasn't really a stalemate.

Zoro vs Pica-Couldve finished earlier or not isn't the point. Zoro COULDNT finish Pica off quickly against his full DF abilities. Zoro was at the disadvantage, was the one being pressured and covered in scratches and was defending against an endless barrage of attacks for the longest time. He was having a very hard time pinning Pica down and began to breathe more heavily as the fight dragged on.

Sanji vs Jabra- good point.

Zoro vs Ryuuma- I seriously doubt Kaku and Ryuuma gave Zoro the same difficulty......



Aint increasing the difficulty of a fight just because of someone's title or position....

Im sorry I rustled you. Its not my fault you cant except things that happened in the manga U_U

Fujitora would beats sabo mid diff

Zoro beat pica low diff I don't think he even touched zoro. Zoro was about to finish him off when the fight first started on the pica statue, then pica ran. The only thing pica could do was run.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Like I said, it depends on the level of characters. 15-40 minutes can be mid diff for two people regardless of if there are people who can fight for days. What happened with Akainu and Kuzan doesn't have anything to do with Zoro.

That's like saying it wasn't really that hard for Zoro to cut steel because Mihawk could do it by flexing his pinky.

Which is why I provided two examples specifically to Zoro, but if you wanna keep dodging points that's cool too. I mentioned the admiral fight once and said it's rare why do you keep hanging on that like it's the crux of my argument? Ryuuma was a more difficult fight by your own measures as it took as long as the Pica fight but defeating him actually took more effort than Pica.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Im sorry I rustled you. Its not my fault you cant except things that happened in the manga U_U

Fujitora would beats sabo mid diff

Zoro beat pica low diff I don't think he even touched zoro. Zoro was about to finish him off when the fight first started on the pica statue, then pica ran. The only thing pica could do was run.

Aint my fault you claim everything you say is right and manga facts. Its not like I'm the only one who thinks you are a moron. Its like 90% of the forum that gets "irritated" from your dumb post. Like this one for example.

 

[ToshiZO]

^Vandenre1ch

You owe me a reply mate. Either that or change some of the difficulties in the original post.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

^Vandenre1ch

You owe me a reply mate. Either that or change some of the difficulties in the original post.

Several people already said what I was going to say to your posts. No need to repeat what they said.

 

[ToshiZO]

Several people already said what I was going to say to your posts. No need to repeat what they said.

Not really. And I'm more so talking about Crocodile vs Luffy, it wouldn't make sense for it to be high diff, should be at least extreme diff, others have said the same.

How can Zoro vs Pica be mid-high and then Luffy vs Crocodile be high diff? I know you don't even believe that yourself you're smarter than that.

 

[Black Mamba]

Things I think need to be fixed.

Zoro vs Fuji - you can't put this in any diff, because it was only one clash and both were fine and had A LOT more fight left.

Sabo vs Fuji - fight was a draw mid diff cause neither was giving it their all.

Zoro vs Ryuma - mid-high diff

Luffy vs Blueno - low-mid diff

Luffy vs Magallen - low diff maybe low-mid diff

Luffy vs Don chinjao - mid diff

Zoro vs Pica - mid diff

Luffy vs Croc - if you count all 3 battles I'd extreme diff, but if you're talking about the last fight then mid diff.

Zoro vs Mr. 1 - high diff, pretty close to extreme diff but once he learned how to cut steel he one shotted him easily and was able to walk and move after the fight

 

[ssjelf]

Things I think need to be fixed.

Zoro vs Fuji - you can't put this in any diff, because it was only one clash and both were fine and had A LOT more fight left.

Sabo vs Fuji - fight was a draw mid diff cause neither was giving it their all.

Zoro vs Ryuma - mid-high diff

Luffy vs Blueno - low-mid diff

Luffy vs Magallen - low diff maybe low-mid diff

Luffy vs Don chinjao - mid diff

Zoro vs Pica - mid diff

Luffy vs Croc - if you count all 3 battles I'd extreme diff, but if you're talking about the last fight then mid diff.

Zoro vs Mr. 1 - high diff, pretty close to extreme diff but once he learned how to cut steel he one shotted him easily and was able to walk and move after the fight

He had it there but I argued to put it up. It doesnt matter that he one shotted him. Zoro almost dies until he learned to cut steel. Including that last part only makes it low diff, but the whole fight is to be included.

Also this scan shows he couldnt move after:

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and this

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[Black Mamba]

He had it there but I argued to put it up. It doesnt matter that he one shotted him. Zoro almost dies until he learned to cut steel. Including that last part only makes it low diff, but the whole fight is to be included.

Also this scan shows he couldnt move after:

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and this

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True, I forgot he collapsed after. I guess you can put it under extreme diff

 

[bajram]

Luffy vs Crocodile should be extreme-diff, Crocodile already beat him 2 times before and in the third time it was more of a tie than a win, Luffy was poisoned from the hook and if it wouldnt be for the antidote he would have died, he recieved help in this fight plenty times and barely won I dont know how anyone can think that Luffy just won high diff, if anything Luffy vs Croc was harder than Luffy vs Doffy.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Luffy vs Crocodile should be extreme-diff, Crocodile already beat him 2 times before and in the third time it was more of a tie than a win, Luffy was poisoned from the hook and if it wouldnt be for the antidote he would have died, he recieved help in this fight plenty times and barely won I dont know how anyone can think that Luffy just won high diff, if anything Luffy vs Croc was harder than Luffy vs Doffy.

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[chopstickchakra]

Luffy vs Crocodile should be extreme-diff, Crocodile already beat him 2 times before and in the third time it was more of a tie than a win, Luffy was poisoned from the hook and if it wouldnt be for the antidote he would have died, he recieved help in this fight plenty times and barely won I dont know how anyone can think that Luffy just won high diff, if anything Luffy vs Croc was harder than Luffy vs Doffy.

Possibly but Luffy didn't really fight Doffy 1v1 so it's hard to say. I personally don't think Oda showcased enough from Luffy to say that he would have won a 1v1 vs Doffy. I think a 1v1 Luffy v Doffy would be a Doffy win either low end of extreme or more likely high diff.

 

[bajram]

Possibly but Luffy didn't really fight Doffy 1v1 so it's hard to say. I personally don't think Oda showcased enough from Luffy to say that he would have won a 1v1 vs Doffy. I think a 1v1 Luffy v Doffy would be a Doffy win either low end of extreme or more likely high diff.

I was talking about how the fight went down in the manga and not a 1v1 in particular since I also think that until Luffy removes his G4 draw backs I dont think he could take him on a 1v1, but how the fight went in the manga in this case the 2v1 was different and it seemed easier, Luffy somehow had the upper hand on Doffy during G4 resulting in an onslaught of 30 mins or so but in the Crocodile case it didnt seem so, Luffy barely got the upper hand in that fight, only during the end to be exact and yet he was still poisoned and without the antidote I doubt he would have survived so somehow the fight was extreme since Luffy just barely stayed alive which didnt seem the case in the Doffy fight, yet I still think that Luffy vs Dofla remains an extreme diff fight but a little less extreme than vs Croc.

I also think there are levesl even in the extreme diff itself since I really cant compare any extreme diff fight to Akainu vs Aokiji, that's like beyond extreme diff.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I was talking about how the fight went down in the manga and not a 1v1 in particular since I also think that until Luffy removes his G4 draw backs I dont think he could take him on a 1v1, but how the fight went in the manga in this case the 2v1 was different and it seemed easier, Luffy somehow had the upper hand on Doffy during G4 resulting in an onslaught of 30 mins or so but in the Crocodile case it didnt seem so, Luffy barely got the upper hand in that fight, only during the end to be exact and yet he was still poisoned and without the antidote I doubt he would have survived so somehow the fight was extreme since Luffy just barely stayed alive which didnt seem the case in the Doffy fight, yet I still think that Luffy vs Dofla remains an extreme diff fight but a little less extreme than vs Croc.

I also think there are levesl even in the extreme diff itself since I really cant compare any extreme diff fight to Akainu vs Aokiji, that's like beyond extreme diff.

As soon as I read your first sentence I got where you're coming from. I've seen so many people say Luffy>Doffy now that I just assumed that's what you were implying, sorry for that.