[Discussion] One Piece Fights: Difficulty Scale

[Vandenre1ch]

No Diff-Explains itself

Luffy vs Alvida
Luffy vs Smoker(first encounter)
Luffy vs Coby

Low Diff-an easy fight in which SOME effort is needed to defeat your opponent.

Sanji vs Doflamingo(Doffy's perspective)
Zoro vs Fujitora(Fujitora's perspective)

Low-Med Diff-a fight in which you don't have to give it your all and your opponent may have some strange trick to overcome or is just tough. Victor may come out with minor to no injuries.

Fujitora vs Sabo(Fujitora's perspective)
Luffy vs Usopp
Zoro vs Braham

Med Diff- a fight in which a lot of effort is needed and the two opponents typically stalemate each other. Victor may walk away with no to minor injuries.

Luffy vs Blueno
Zoro vs Ryuuma
Luffy vs Magellan(Magellan's perspective)

Med-High Diff- a fight in which the victor struggled pretty bad and is put at a disadvantage. Victor may walk away with minor to moderate injures at least.

Luffy vs Don Chinjao
Zoro vs Pica
Luffy vs Enel

High Diff- a fight in which the victor struggled heavily and received moderate injuries at least. At some points it seems victory is unlikely.

Zoro vs Kaku
Sanji vs Jabra
Kyros vs Diamante


Extreme Diff- A fight so intense that there is no guarantee which person will come out on top. Changing one thing about this fight can bare a complete opposite result.

Luffy vs Doflamingo
Luffy vs Rob Lucci
Zoro vs Mr 1
Akainu vs Aokiji
Ace vs Jinbe
Luffy vs Crocodile
Agree or disagree? What fights do you think falls under one of these categories?

 

[loj]

Noice I agree.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

I would throw Akainu vs Aokiji, Ace vs Jinbei, and Strawhats vs Pacifista in the extreme category.


Maybe throw Luffy vs Alvida in the no difficulty.

 

[ssjelf]

I would put zoro vs fuji at low-med because like you said, some sort of trick was displayed. Fuji was quite surprised that he sent that slash. I would do the same to sanji vs doffy. I think a better example of low diff is zoro vs the swordsman from fishman island. But perhaps it is just SH favoritism Im playin here.

EDIT: well actually if you are comparing it to sabo vs fuji then i am inclined to agree. And I really dont wanna push sabo vs fuji up a tier

I would also put zoro vs pica at med diff because in med-high you said he the victor sustained some injuries at least, but zoro had no injuries.

I would move zoro vs mr 1 up a tier to like high-extreme or something just because zoro was about to die and had he not had that epiphany, he woulda lost.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Noice I agree.

Cant give any rep in return....have to spread some....get it?.....

I would throw Akainu vs Aokiji, Ace vs Jinbei, and Strawhats vs Pacifista in the extreme category.


Maybe throw Luffy vs Alvida in the no difficulty.

Perfect sense.

I would put zoro vs fuji at low-med because like you said, some sort of trick was displayed. Fuji was quite surprised that he sent that slash. I would do the same to sanji vs doffy. I think a better example of low diff is zoro vs the swordsman from fishman island. But perhaps it is just SH favoritism Im playin here.

I would also put zoro vs pica at med diff because in med-high you said he the victor sustained some injuries at least, but zoro had no injuries.

I would move zoro vs mr 1 up a tier to like high-extreme or something just because zoro was about to die and had he not had that epiphany, he woulda lost.

Zoro throwing that slash doesn't count as a trick. Fujitora easily brushed it aside. Its more so like Zoro's fight with Braham in Skypiea. Zoro one shotted him, but he had problems overcoming that flash gun.

I count scratches n' such as minor injuries. It indicates struggle. When Zoro was done fighting, he breathing heavily as well. Pica was a ***** and a half to pin down and put Zoro at a pretty big disadvantage.

Zoro vs Mr 1 should go up to extreme like you said. Dude would've died.

 

[ssjelf]

Cant give any rep in return....have to spread some....get it?.....



Perfect sense.



Zoro throwing that slash doesn't count as a trick. Fujitora easily brushed it aside. Its more so like Zoro's fight with Braham in Skypiea. Zoro one shotted him, but he had problems overcoming that flash gun.

I count scratches n' such as minor injuries. It indicates struggle. When Zoro was done fighting, he breathing heavily as well. Pica was a ***** and a half to pin down and put Zoro at a pretty big disadvantage.

Zoro vs Mr 1 should go up to extreme like you said. Dude would've died.

I wouldnt say zoro was ever at a disadvantage, he always blocked picas attacks and frequently had pica on the run. Compare it to magellan vs luffy. Luffy was several times hard to pin down and magellan even was hit for some moderate damage. If it wasnt for picas running I would put this fight at low diff. Also consider your standard of zoro vs ryumma, zoro was more injured and tired there and yet is at a lower diff.

I would say that zoro never had trouble finding pica but only had trouble pinning him down. He was never at a disadvantage because he knew where the attacks were coming from and it never hit him or caught him off guard. It more accurately fits the description of stalemate from the med-diff description. Zoro couldn't hit pica and pica couldn't hit zoro. The one momentary disadvantage was when pica brought others into the fight which gave him more distance and zoro couldnt catch him in time. I would say this isnt staying true to the fight but was really a momentary pause which resumed when zoro caught up to him.

Also consider the other fights in med-high. There was much more struggling in all of those fight than in zoro vs pica.

 

[ToshiZO]

Wasn't aware Sabo vs Fujitora even concluded...you must be getting some classified info directly from Oda, lucky you.

 

[BaseGodNaruto]

No Diff-Explains itself

Luffy vs Alvida
Luffy vs Smoker(first encounter)
Luffy vs Coby

Low Diff-an easy fight in which SOME effort is needed to defeat your opponent.

Sanji vs Doflamingo(Doffy's perspective)
Zoro vs Fujitora(Fujitora's perspective)

Low-Med Diff-a fight in which you don't have to give it your all and your opponent may have some strange trick to overcome or is just tough. Victor may come out with minor to no injuries.

Fujitora vs Sabo(Fujitora's perspective)
Luffy vs Usopp
Zoro vs Braham

Med Diff- a fight in which a lot of effort is needed and the two opponents typically stalemate each other. Victor may walk away with no to minor injuries.

Luffy vs Blueno
Zoro vs Ryuuma
Luffy vs Magellan(Magellan's perspective)

Med-High Diff- a fight in which the victor struggled pretty bad and is put at a disadvantage. Victor may walk away with minor to moderate injures at least.

Luffy vs Don Chinjao
Zoro vs Pica
Luffy vs Enel
Sanji vs Jabra

High Diff- a fight in which the victor struggled heavily and received moderate injuries at least. At some points it seems victory is unlikely.

Zoro vs Kaku
Luffy vs Crocodile
Kyros vs Diamante


Extreme Diff- A fight so intense that there is no guarantee which person will come out on top. Changing one thing about this fight can bare a complete opposite result.

Luffy vs Doflamingo
Luffy vs Rob Lucci
Zoro vs Mr 1
Akainu vs Aokiji
Ace vs Jinbe

Agree or disagree? What fights do you think falls under one of these categories?

Zorro vs Fuji was not Low Diff was the same as Sabo clash..
Zorro vs Pica low difficulty he was the only crew member not to be hurt and was chilling with Sabo
You must be a Ussop lover because that was a No Dif one punch all it took Ussop did well but those little attacks wont hurt Luffy

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I wouldnt say zoro was ever at a disadvantage, he always blocked picas attacks and frequently had pica on the run. Compare it to magellan vs luffy. Luffy was several times hard to pin down and magellan even was hit for some moderate damage. If it wasnt for picas running I would put this fight at low diff. Also consider your standard of zoro vs ryumma, zoro was more injured and tired there and yet is at a lower diff.

I would say that zoro never had trouble finding pica but only had trouble pinning him down. He was never at a disadvantage because he knew where the attacks were coming from and it never hit him or caught him off guard. It more accurately fits the description of stalemate from the med-diff description. Zoro couldn't hit pica and pica couldn't hit zoro. The one momentary disadvantage was when pica brought others into the fight which gave him more distance and zoro couldnt catch him in time. I would say this isnt staying true to the fight but was really a momentary pause which resumed when zoro caught up to him.

Also consider the other fights in med-high. There was much more struggling in all of those fight than in zoro vs pica.

Pica's stone ability was the reason the fight itself was so difficult for Zoro. Both Zoro and Magellan walked away from their fights with minor injuries that would heal with a little rest. Magellan though was in control of his fight with Luffy and the tide turned more in his favor as the fight dragged on. The fight against Pica was harldy in Zoro's favor as he was constantly defending and getting covered in scratches. Zoro was at a disadvantage because his opponent can attack endlessly while Zoro cant attack the real body. Zoro struggled a lot more against Pica than Magellan did against Luffy.

Against Ryuuma, it was a stalemate. Zoro never got hit or covered in scratches but he struggled heavily for a short time before claiming victory. Luffy struggled heavily against Don Chinjao and Enel and walked away with minor injuries. Sanji dealt with Jabra fairly quickly but had to purposely receive a moderate injury to do so.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Wasn't aware Sabo vs Fujitora even concluded...you must be getting some classified info directly from Oda, lucky you.

Fujitora was still low-med diffing Sabo........unclever comment is not clever....

Zorro vs Fuji was not Low Diff was the same as Sabo clash..
Zorro vs Pica low difficulty he was the only crew member not to be hurt and was chilling with Sabo
You must be a Ussop lover because that was a No Dif one punch all it took Ussop did well but those little attacks wont hurt Luffy

I recommend you not comment again if you think I'm an Usopp fan. You also completely ignore the entire fight between Usopp and Luffy and only look at the final blow....Zoro low-diff Pica? Because he was chilling with Sabo hours later? I highly doubt Luffy low diff Don Chinjao cause he didn't have any blood injuries either....

 

[ToshiZO]

lol since when was Fujitora low mid diffing him, how does that even make sense when neither of them even suffered an injury? Fujitora didnt even land one blow on Sabo IIRC.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

lol since when was Fujitora low mid diffing him, how does that even make sense when neither of them even suffered an injury? Fujitora didnt even land one blow on Sabo IIRC.

Pfft...pfft pfft....pfft.....Sabo was breathing heavily, riddled with scratches and needed to rest after his scuffle with Fujitora and Fuji wasn't even serious....

 

[solorflare99]

Luffy versus Lucci is the peak difficulty it was borderline a tie.

 

[ToshiZO]

Pfft...pfft pfft....pfft.....Sabo was breathing heavily, riddled with scratches and needed to rest after his scuffle with Fujitora and Fuji wasn't even serious....

So now making your opponent breathe heavily accounts to low mid diffing them? Did you miss the part where he didnt land one blow on him? If not being able to land a single blow on your opponents = low-mid diffing them than I wonder what high diffing someone is? Basically being killed twice and unable to move after the third clash? Oh wait you do have that under high diff. Atleast youre being consistent.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

So now making your opponent breathe heavily accounts to low mid diffing them? Did you miss the part where he didnt land one blow on him? If not being able to land a single blow on your opponents = low-mid diffing them than I wonder what high diffing someone is? Basically being killed twice and unable to move after the third clash? Oh wait you do have that under high diff. Atleast youre being consistent.

You are making no sense what so ever and why do you have such an issue? Fujitora wasn't serious and didn't have a scratch on him unlike Sabo.

 

[BSK]

So now making your opponent breathe heavily accounts to low mid diffing them? Did you miss the part where he didnt land one blow on him? If not being able to land a single blow on your opponents = low-mid diffing them than I wonder what high diffing someone is? Basically being killed twice and unable to move after the third clash? Oh wait you do have that under high diff. Atleast youre being consistent.

OP doesn't know what is talking about about sometimes.

Zoro vs pica was alow did fight pica was basicallyn running the whole time and even left him go fight weaker people

Doffy vs sanji was no diff. Doffy one shoted sanji and as was about to finish him off then law saved him.

Sanji vs Jabra was high diff

Zoro vs fujitora is low mid diff

Sabo vs fujitora is mid diff

 

[Im Still Robin]

Black Beard Pirates vs WB -

High diff .. maybe extreme

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Some of the fights listed here are just schemishes so basically whats being judged is the tide of battle in a non-conclusive encounter. If you r going to create a scale I would rather the examples be of fights that were actually concluded then if from those u get an agreeable scale then use it to judge encouners such as Sabo v Fuji.

The reason I say this is if pple are just fighting for show or one is sadistic(a.k.a Dofla) if the fight ends abruptly or is interfered judging those fights and using them as examples to judge other fights will cause discrepancies when u go to list charecter power levels as Fuji is honourable so unless he really wants to KO you get good rep unlike a person like Dofla who will relish in seeing u squirm so obviously u get bad rep unless pple judge the skirmish by how long it too as he obviously takes his time torturing you if you r weaker.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Pfft...pfft pfft....pfft.....Sabo was breathing heavily, riddled with scratches and needed to rest after his scuffle with Fujitora and Fuji wasn't even serious....

Sabo wasn't fighting fuji with his full potential he was just drifting him away from luffy and team. Sabo got serious during his clash with burgess, when he made that stupid comment on ace.

 

[Bogard]

The Fujitora vs Sabo was a mid diff fight that could have been extended to higher end of mid or low-high diff because Sabo was pressured against a Fujitora not going all out, however Fujitora was still operating at a high level to one point where he even used a named attack(first time in the serie)

Zoro vs Pica was a mid difficulty battle. It can't be high when his life was never in danger. Hell, he didn't even receive a single scratch and was playing around most of the time. Zoro could have finished him even earlier if he wasn't the cocky type character but it extended and Pica started to avoid him after he realized he couldn't match him and tried to attack weaker targets instead. If there even was a high degree into it, it's only because Zoro had to use a high end move to save other people in time, not because the opponent was actually a threat to him, not making the actual battle difficulty relevant to the difference in level between the 2

The Sanji vs Jabra was a high difficulty battle because he was completely dominated before diable jambe(the moment Jabra went serious) and even with diable jambe, he needed to do it 2times(a technique that was risky to his leg at the time) with the second time needing to sacrifice his body to gain the leg edge and win

The Ryuma vs Zoro however was a high difficulty battle, because while short and ininjured, Zoro had to be close to 100% in every hits he was giving to defeat him, to the point he fell on the ground exhausted afterwards due to the efforts it required, a complete different outcome than the one against Pica where the opponent was never a threat to him

I somehow agree with the rest