[Discussion] one peice haters..

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The future reference part is a joke between her and Yo Yo Momma San. Don't bother with it. The rest was a normal comment about what happens between haters,potential readers and OP fans in this section i.e. haters complain OP is no good, potential readers worry about the length and whether they'll enjoy the series or not and fans ask them to go on reading until a certain part(even if the reader thinks the current part they are on is not interesting) of the series from where OP becomes truly amazing.
Actually OP changes completely when we get near Marinford arc, which is perhaps the best manga arc, I had ever read.
OP is a manga that requires patience, when my RL friends ask me about starting OP, I respond it as, it is fantastic manga but requires patience.:p
 

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I know some do it, but it personal choice whether you want to read manga or not, it can't be decided by someone else, if you find boring in midway just don't read it, but don't call it bad as well.:p

True.

OT - BTW I find Chelsea interesting. Probably my fav NR member. Love the way she plays mind games and trolls others. Physical strength is not everything after all in AGK verse.

Actually OP changes completely when we get near Marinford arc, which is perhaps the best manga arc, I had ever read.
OP is a manga that requires patience, when my RL friends ask me about starting OP, I respond it as, it is fantastic manga but requires patience.:p

Comes down to two things - preferences and patience.
For me, I felt OP was something from the first chapter itself. Shank's sacrifice for Luffy was surprising. Next amazing moment was when Luffy beats the crap out of the lion and his master for the dog's sake. Empathy is the most important trait IMO. Luffy's empathy towards others is something that makes him my fav.
 
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so why are you here? and for future use? whats that implying?

You asked her opinion, so that's probably why she's in the thread...
Seeing as how she specifically quoted Yo momma san, " for future use" is most likely a statement that wouldn't make sense to you regardless.. Just sayin'..

Ot: I don't think that you'd want Naruto fans to jump onto One Piece. They're not very enjoyable people.
Also its probably best that One Piece doesn't become extremely popular. Fans of One Piece have a strong tendency to hype One Piece past crazy. The fans do this because they want to express their underrated enjoyment and give their series a good look. Basically, its all propaganda. If One Piece does get popular, odds are, people will be less inclined to over hype it. So once all the dust of the hype settles, people will start looking at the series more critically compared to how they were only looking at the good of the series. The fans will start to analyze "bad" parts instead of filtering it out. Then it will get to the point where the fans only look for the bad in the series and are contrary and impartial towards One Piece. This happens all the time. It happened with Dragon Ball Z, the series, that at one point, was the best and amazing! Then people began to look critically and decided that it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It happened in Naruto and it's happening with Attack on Titan. Everyone was so hyped about it, now its developing serious haters.
Stuff like this happens because of the fans. They hype a series up to much and it ends up "disappointing".
 
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The future reference part is a joke between her and Yo Yo Momma San. Don't bother with it. The rest was a normal comment about what happens between haters,potential readers and OP fans in this section i.e. haters complain OP is no good, potential readers worry about the length and whether they'll enjoy the series or not and fans ask them to go on reading until a certain part(even if the reader thinks the current part they are on is not interesting) of the series from where OP becomes truly amazing.

i appreciate the explanation, i just couldnt tell if she was here to punish, or moderate, yo momma san. or if she was here to state an opinion,

as little power as it may be when you look at it in terms of reality, she still carries power, and on this website that power is consider great. and when there are people on this website that u cant determine the maturity levels of, it creates a stir so to say, when a moderator comments on a thread. a stir that makes it harder for people who wanted to legitimately discuss. to discuss(did that make sense? idk) anyways, i walk away to make frenchtoast and i come back not knowing why i have a moderator on a thread i made. just a bit confusing, thought maybe mods would have separate accounts for commenting on threads that dont have to do with moderating. this way in a usually dramaless setting, drama isnt created.
 

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Overall, I don't hate One Piece, I find the idea of hating a series or anything that someone has barely scratched the surface of rather redundant. So I'm could say I'm indifferent about One Piece as a whole. I find the artwork reasoning behind the dislike rather weak. I've seen more unique artwork in anime and manga and artwork that is well, terrible as a whole (almost cursed with a mod reading :eek:) and still could tell a fluid story.

My personal reasons for not getting involved in the series:

1. As of now, I've been following the Naruto series for over a decade now and it's almost over, then I look over with the announcement that Oda may extend the OP series another ten years, no thank you. I tend to avoid following long shonen as a whole and Naruto was an exception just because that's what got me into anime and manga in the first place.

2. As child, I didn't really see the 4Kids dub so that didn't turn me away from the show as it did with many people but when I finally got around to watching the series (funimation dub). It didn't peak my interest. No characters, no events, nothing could get me to stick it out. I finally left after who knows how many episodes.

3. I found the idea of mixing of canon and filler in the anime pretty bad. It didn't like the idea that one or two chapters would be covered in an episode and then filler material kicked in.

I did try reading it but again, it didn't peak my interest. And much of these occurred years ago so I don't remember it very well.
 

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i appreciate the explanation, i just couldnt tell if she was here to punish, or moderate, yo momma san. or if she was here to state an opinion,

as little power as it may be when you look at it in terms of reality, she still carries power, and on this website that power is consider great. and when there are people on this website that u cant determine the maturity levels of, it creates a stir so to say, when a moderator comments on a thread. a stir that makes it harder for people who wanted to legitimately discuss. to discuss(did that make sense? idk) anyways, i walk away to make frenchtoast and i come back not knowing why i have a moderator on a thread i made. just a bit confusing, thought maybe mods would have separate accounts for commenting on threads that dont have to do with moderating. this way in a usually dramaless setting, drama isnt created.

Nah Mods do post and interact in threads. Ira and Skorm definitely do. And Cali sometimes too.
 

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...And? How far did you get into the manga?

huh? I am updated with it. There was a time when Cali and me were the only one getting this section going you know.


Just so you know I am update with Hunter VS hunter too. :p

I know people are impatient and don't have habits of reading long mangas and all that stuff, but I know RL friends who read this manga in one week, so it isn't like it is boring or anything. Actually OP isn't that much long, it is of about 750 chapters and I am expecting them to follow Manga till say 400 chapters because if you don't know core of manga what gives you right to criticize it?
If you don't like long mangas just stay away from them and don't criticize them as well, because you don't know about them.
For example, if I don't know about Brazil's tactics and game play strategies, what gives me right to criticize their manager's decision of substituting a player? Personal preference is entirely different context.
I know not everyone can like every manga and hence they are divided into genres but if you don't like a genre don't read it.
Whenever I start a manga, I take overview of the plot, read comments by people, go for chapter length sometimes and then decide what to do, that is my procedure of making choice of manga.

I know some do it, but it personal choice whether you want to read manga or not, it can't be decided by someone else, if you find boring in midway just don't read it, but don't call it bad as well.:p

Those who read it one week - how many chapters did they actually read? I didn't skip any even though I kind of just glanced at Sanji's nose bleed. >_> it takes much more than a week if you have to cover OP properly.
 
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You asked her opinion, so that's probably why she's in the thread...
Seeing as how she specifically quoted Yo momma san, " for future use" is most likely a statement that wouldn't make sense to you regardless.. Just sayin'..

Ot: I don't think that you'd want Naruto fans to jump onto One Piece. They're not very enjoyable people.
Also its probably best that One Piece doesn't become extremely popular. Fans of One Piece have a strong tendency to hype One Piece past crazy. The fans do this because they want to express their underrated enjoyment and give their series a good look. Basically, its all propaganda. If One Piece does get popular, odds are, people will be less inclined to over hype it. So once all the dust of the hype settles ,people will start looking at the series more critically compared to how they were only looking at the good of the series. The fans will start to analyze "bad" parts instead of filtering it out. Then it will get to the point where the fans only look for the bad in the series and are contrary and impartial towards One Piece. This happens all the time. It happened with Dragon Ball Z, the series, that at one point, was the best and amazing! Then people began to look critically and decided that it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It happened in Naruto and it's happening with Attack on Titan. Everyone was so hyped about it, now its developing serious haters.
Stuff like this happens because of the fans. They hype a series up to much and it ends up "disappointing".
OP doesn't have many flaws & most of flaws don't impact the plot in a negative way. People are usually viewing the series in critical stand-point and there's still not many flaws with the series. Mainly because Oda takes his time and this usually reduces the margin of error in a story stand point. There are people who are analytical & complain too early about the series. I.E. Sawyer7mage complained that Oda kept introducing too many irrelevant fodders in the tournament but look how wrong his statement is now.
 

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man you all took this thread way out of hand..and to all those saying i asked for opinions, well i didnt, no body reads the OP these days smh
 

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Those who read it one week - how many chapters did they actually read? I didn't skip any even though I kind of just glanced at Sanji's nose bleed. >_> it takes much more than a week if you have to cover OP properly.

I agree with that. It took me almost two weeks to read 700 Chapters even though it was my vacation and I had all the spare time that I could ask for.
 

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Ot: I don't think that you'd want Naruto fans to jump onto One Piece. They're not very enjoyable people.
Also its probably best that One Piece doesn't become extremely popular. Fans of One Piece have a strong tendency to hype One Piece past crazy. The fans do this because they want to express their underrated enjoyment and give their series a good look. Basically, its all propaganda. If One Piece does get popular, odds are, people will be less inclined to over hype it. So once all the dust of the hype settles, people will start looking at the series more critically compared to how they were only looking at the good of the series. The fans will start to analyze "bad" parts instead of filtering it out. Then it will get to the point where the fans only look for the bad in the series and are contrary and impartial towards One Piece. This happens all the time. It happened with Dragon Ball Z, the series, that at one point, was the best and amazing! Then people began to look critically and decided that it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It happened in Naruto and it's happening with Attack on Titan. Everyone was so hyped about it, now its developing serious haters.
Stuff like this happens because of the fans. They hype a series up to much and it ends up "disappointing".

I too have actually witnessed this phenomenon happening not just to mangas/animes, but rather to every piece of fiction that did achieve immense popularity. Those 3 steps of: overhyping, gaining popularity and eventually starting to look at once beloved series critically, developing some kind of negative feeling towards it, have been repeated more than a few times before my very eyes and it's still happening. Guess, the average human habits are predictable as hell after all...
 

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i havent seen a hypocritical response from yo momma san, so how could the feeling be mutual?..

Hahahahaha don't joke
OT:I like OP and it's art
 

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huh? I am updated with it. There was a time when Cali and me were the only one getting this section going you know.


Just so you know I am update with Hunter VS hunter too. :p
Wow I barely see you post in the OP/HxH section. :p I understand mods are usually busy but still.
 

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OT - Who cares. The first rule of reading OP is keep our real world science and logic at bay. I remember a guy criticizing(ranting about) OP because of Baby 5's DF ability. When asked how much OP he had seen he said he watched just that one episode of Baby 5 vs Franky. I was like Dafq. Who directly watches a 600 + episode of a series and starts ranting about it. Those who read OP know sometimes OP characters have ridiculous DFs so Baby 5's power was nothing special for a lot of them(me included).
 

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Those who read it one week - how many chapters did they actually read? I didn't skip any even though I kind of just glanced at Sanji's nose bleed. >_> it takes much more than a week if you have to cover OP properly.
@bold, that's too much.XD
I myself completed Fairy Tail(390 chapters) in 4 days and that 'too properly'. So on an average 100 chapters per day, so I can read OP in a week, but ya you need to read fast and need to have a lot of spare time in your hands.u.u
 

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I hated one piece a lot back then. But one day I sat down with my sister and we both watched it. I literally wasted my whole summer 2 years ago trying to catch up to the series, and I began to notice on how much I loved it. You can't just hate a series with our watching it, that's a huge lesson I learned. Also it should't be hated because of the art and the length of the story.
You guys should try the manga, it also has a lot of messages and morales in which you could learn from if you get into the greater depths of the story
 
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OT - Who cares. The first rule of reading OP is keep our real world science and logic at bay. I remember a guy criticizing(ranting about) OP because of Baby 5's DF ability. When asked how much OP he had seen he said he watched just that one episode of Baby 5 vs Franky. I was like Dafq. Who directly watches a 600 + episode of a series and starts ranting about it. Those who read OP know sometimes OP characters have ridiculous DFs so Baby 5's power was nothing special for a lot of them(me included).

apparently you all do..way more than i wanted you all too..
 

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apparently you all do..way more than i wanted you all too..

The who cares was for people who will critique it on a weekly basis. I just realized it in this week's OP chapter thread Lol
 

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Also its probably best that One Piece doesn't become extremely popular. Fans of One Piece have a strong tendency to hype One Piece past crazy. The fans do this because they want to express their underrated enjoyment and give their series a good look. Basically its all propaganda. If One Piece does get popular, odds are, people will be less inclined to over hype it. So once all the dust of the hype settles people will start looking at the series more critically compared to how they were only looking at the good of the series. The fans will start to analyze "bad" parts instead of filtering it out. Then it will get to the point where the fans only look for the bad in the series and are contrary and impartial towards One Piece. This happens all the time. It happened with Dragon Ball Z, the series, that at one point, was the best and amazing! Then people began to look critically and decided that it wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It happened in Naruto and it's happening with Attack on Titan. Everyone was so hyped about it, now its developing serious haters.
Stuff like this happens because of the fans. They hype a series up to much and it ends up "disappointing".
No I doubt if that will happen in case of One Piece, it is already above 700 chapters and people till now had understood pros and cons of the manga. There are people who are just 'bandwagonars' or like to over hype the manga, but ignore them. There are logical fans as well, who know that their series isn't perfect even if it is better than other mangas, they know what to expect from writer. It happened in case of DBZ because it is really old manga and manga world wasn’t that much of big at that point of time, DBZ was completely different type of case altogether. Talking about AOT, AOT was actually over hyped by people pretty much in initial phase and this started the trend of manga being overhyped in the beginning and then looked down in later phase especially by the people who didn't understand the basic fact that every manga has good and bad things. Same thing will happen in case of many other ‘modern mangas’. Naruto is looked down, because let’s admit Naruto was unable to maintain its standard and Attack On Titan was new at that point of time and was overhyped.

PS-Sorry if I did some grammatical/spelling errors, my keyboard isn't working properly today.>_<
 
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I honestly don't care if someone criticizes a show. As long as you still love it, you shouldn't care what others think. Just remember haters are just trying to deceive you into liking their shit.
 
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