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Kisame : either die Like a fool being fooled By Obito, OR die like a Hero pretecting Madara's Secrets !!!!!!
-One of the biggest unsolved Mysteries in Naruto Manga is kisame's meeting with Tobi and him believing that the masked man to be Madara despite him being revealed to be Obito in chapter of 599....SO WHAT DID KISAME EXACTLY SEE? OBITO'S OR MADARA'S FACE???..
-1st Notice well these manga panels about kisame (and watch their anime version plz) :
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This Man just dont give $hit about Death !!...he is ready to die for sake of protecting Akatsuki secrets !!!
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-this man bite his tongue so that the enemie wouldn't know what tobi looked like !!!!!... he died protecting Tobi's secrets !!!!
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everyone is like WTF when kisame goes HAHAHAHAHAHA shortly befor he dies !!..WHAT AN EPIC LAUGHT !!!!!...plz watch the anime version!!! ...
-Hence: i doesn't make sence at all that a skilled and trustworthy ninja like kisame died being fooled by Obito!!...i mean Kishimoto can not give Kisame an epic death ...then ruin his character by revealing Tobi to be obito...its impossible that kisame died being fooled by obito...KISAME MUST HAVE DIED PROTECTING MADARA'S SECRETS !!!...AND THATS WHY THE MASKED MAN HAS TO BE MADARA NO MATER WHAT!!!
Kisame's meeting with the Masked man Tobi :
chapters 507 and 508 are very important chapters :
-chapters 507 : titled "a Flase existence" : wich introduces kisame's idealogy and him embracing Tobi's Idealogy of Reality being genjutsu...or better said the Notion of "LIVING LIES" !!!!
-chapter 508 :titled "a ninjas Death" : where kishomoto showed big respect to Kisame's character and gave him an epic Death..
-Two things are known about kisame :
a)- he is a ninja who completes his missions no matter what....
b)- kisame do not betray his comrades UNLESS HE IS BEING BETRAYED !!..for exemple when Fukugi assigned kisame with the Secret Mission of the cypher Division...Fuguki was revealed to have been leaking information to enemies, and was killed by Kisame..
-First meeting of Kisame and Tobi :
-chapter 507 :..Tobidara is a Mastermind in the truest meaning of the term...a trait wich some1 naive like obito dont have..
-in this conversation : Notice well how Tobidara is going to prove to kisame that reality is indeed fool of lies
1st- first tobidara hides himself in shadow and introduces himself to kisame through manipulating Yagura ..
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2nd-Kisame's answer seems to agree with tobidara's ideology...a false existence = Reality is full of lies !!
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3-Realizing that kisame is the true ninja Tobidara can trust ,Tobidara appears to Kisame from the shadow and speaks with him..
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6-Kisame got impressed by Tobidara's exemple :the one who kisame thought was yagura was none then Tobidara controling him!!!..
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7-Then Kisame asks him : WHO ARE YOU BRO???...Tobidara : IM UCHIHA MADARA!!..and Kisame is like : WTF BRO??
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8-Tobidara : yes Bro..like how i just proved you that i was the reall Mizukage i will prove you that Im the immortal uchiha Madara !!..
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Then oooooops when we are about to see the true Tobi face kisame saw...kisame brought himself back to consiousness....HAHAHAHAHA y'll see my B^lls!!
Conclusions :
-after Tobi showed his reall face to kisame ,Kisame got convinced that the Masked man was indeed Madara
-a bada$s approaches another Bada$s...he shows him respect...and tells him i will reveal you my secrets..and exchange for that i want your Loyalty and trustworthiness.....REALL BADASS VILLAINS RESPECT EACH OTHERS AND DONT BETRAY EACH OTHERS !!!....Kisame was the only one who had honor of seeing the reall face of Tobidara...
--Years later the 2nd meeting chapter 404 :
1-this time tobi acting like goofy wears his mask and appraoches Kisame :
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3-Tobi removes his mask !!!
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4-AHA!!..so that goofy Tobi who i thought was the reall masked man was in fact you !!!....you never cease to amaze me how this Reality is indeed full of lies !!
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5- MADARA SAN !!!
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Conclusion :
-the 2nd meeting proves that kisame saw the same Tobidara face he saw years ago..and he called him with the same title "Mizukage"..
-it means Kisame can't be under obito's genjutsu becuz the 2nd meeting proves that kisame remembred the same face when tobi was controlling yagura.... and yet he keeps calling him "madara'!!
-the tobi face kisame saw ca'nt be obito's doing a Madara-zetsu transformation...why?..becuz kisame Knows white zetsu's shift-abilities very well...KISAME HIMSELF DID A ZETSU TRANSFORMATION WHEN HE FOUGHT KILLER BEE !!!..
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-kisame is a skilled Ninja...if he says that he saw Madara's face it means he indeed saw Madara's face and not obito's...
BUT HOW???...
-the humain flesh in obito's arm is a part of madara's body appearing in obito's white zetsu skin !!!
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-my theory is : what happens is that when Tobimadara takes full controll of obito's body..Madara's cells surface on obito's body making madara emerge..
(btw i believe that the goofy tobi was spiral zetsu taking full controll of obito's body)
Who controlled the Mizukage Yagura??
-that is one of the most genius writing of Kishi...it's a well casted genjutsu by kishi...only true readers will be able to see through kishimoto's deception !!!!..
-we all gonna think that obito was the one who controlled Mizukage Yagura out of revenge for Killing Rin..But the truth is ....Its uchiha Madara (tobidara) who is going to controll Mizukage yagura in the same way he controlled the Mist shinobies during the Death of Rin...becuz Tobidara is just carrying on what he stared years ago...Madara in his form Tobi is brining the Moon eye plan into motion !!..
-befor old Madara disconnected himself from the mazo...he already calculated that obito is going to take revenge from the Mist village...old madara himself wanted that to happen why?...becuz when tobidara later will controll obito..obito will think he was the one who controled yagura with his free will...
-the curse seal old madara placed on obito's heart also played big role in erasing obito's memories and turning off his consiousness when Tobimadara takes full controll of obito's body.
-Just think about it plz : Obito doesn't have the genjutsu skills to controll some1 like mizukage yagura who was the sanbis host !!!...But Madara can do it...madara is a talented uchiha..if you give him a simple sharingan he can do great skills with it..
-the one who controlled kurama and launched it against konoha was tobidara..though obito with his free will did indeed infiltrate konoha..but then tobimadara possessed him and controlled kurama !!
-if obito was the one who controlled mizukage and kurama with his sharingan...then why didn't kishi show us the unmasked obito doing the same abilities...simply becuz it wasn't obito but madara!!!...
BUT WHY EXACTLY TOBIMADARA TRUSTING KISAME??
-this is actually a good question i asked myself...what is the meaning of tobimadara entrusting his secrets to kisame??...think about !!!......YES !!....ITS ....BLACK ZETSU!!!!..
-clearly Madara in his form Tobi must have realized that black zetsu might betray him...that is why he was looking for a trustworthy member...
-black zetsu proved his non-loyalty to Madara and revived his mother...
-and kisame proved his loyalty to Madara..and even died protecting his secrets..
-black zetsu doesn't know of the 2nd madara being sealed within obito....even black zetsu got fooled..
-Tobidara will emerge and trick kaguya and black zetsu...and even the whole allied shinobies...
Rikudo Madara and Tobidara
let me sum it up again....i believe ther were 2 madara's runing around..and the second madara was created via izanagi :
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-one of them disconnected himself from the mazo and got revived to become rikudo madara...while the other sealed himself within obito without obito's knowledge...
-Rikudo Madara is stronger....but Tobidara is more wise and mastermind then Madara...becuz rikudo madara died ...while tobidara lived longer and learned new facts about the uchiha tablets and black zetsus betrayal...
- when Rikudo madara was revived...tobidara decided to hide himself within obito's body and even let obito act by his free will...why?...becuz tobimadara has another plan wich rikudo madara himself ignore...and this plan involves kagiya's presence and the holly apple...
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Tobidara is the one pulling the strings..not black zetsu !!...
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-according to the mystery of the insides .i believe that tobidara along with spiral zetsu emerged from obito's body and got separated from him...
Tobidara will come back and become the finall villain !!!...thats why Kisame didn't die like a fool but died like a reall shinobi protecting madara's secrets !!!
