[Discussion] One Aspect Naruto >>> One Piece In

[SSS12]

In One Piece, Pell the suicide bomber

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Mr. 2, who incurred the wrath of Magellan,

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Wiper, who used Reject Dial thrice, said to kill a person with a single use, and also endured Enel's lightning

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CP9, all suffered fatal wounds, in particular Lucci and Kaku.

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All these guys survived miraculously, without any explanations. That's just lame, as much as I hate to say it. It seems like Oda is writing for children, not wanting to kill any characters unless the story can't go on otherwise.

Naruto, on the other hand:

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This is only Part I too. In this regard, Kishi is much better than Oda by a fair distance. Kishi isn't writing to please 7 year olds and is way more realistic. I like both series equally and make no mistake, One Piece has a great storyline and awesome characters, but it could have done better here. What do you guys think?

 

[roncato]

I like Naruto more as well. However, the best explanations has Hunter x Hunter, imo. Or Hajime no Ippo

 

[Ōkami]

More deaths don't make for a better story.

Oda does Quality over quantity for when death happens it strikes a cord within you.

Kishi however does quantity over quality and makes death more frequent and thus looses all meaning.

 

[WhistleBlower]

More deaths don't make for a better story.

Oda does Quality over quantity for when death happens it strikes a cord within you.

Kishi however does quantity over quality and makes death more frequent and thus looses all meaning.

This. He said it all that whats needs to be said here U_U
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[SSS12]

I like Naruto more as well. However, the best explanations has Hunter x Hunter, imo. Or Hajime no Ippo

I like them both equally. Heard a lot about Hunter x Hunter. I think I might give it a shot.

More deaths don't make for a better story.

Oda does Quality over quantity for when death happens it strikes a cord within you.

Kishi however does quantity over quality and makes death more frequent and thus looses all meaning.

I don't think this has anything to do with quality or quantity or who has the better story, it's about following logic. Some survivals in One Piece defy all logic, which is not the case in Naruto. As I said, I like both equally and believe unless Oda messes up big time, One Piece will be better than Naruto by the end it reaches its conclusion. But Oda has to stop with the miraculous survivals.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

More deaths don't make for a better story.

Oda does Quality over quantity for when death happens it strikes a cord within you.

Kishi however does quantity over quality and makes death more frequent and thus looses all meaning.

This ^^
He had people crying over a ship being burnt now think if someone actually died....
Also he makes the deaths of his charecters pretty bada$$
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[SSS12]

This. He said it all that whats needs to be said here U_U
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I never said more deaths make for a better story. Please read the thread carefully.

 

[Olorin]

it's ironic how WB's and Ace's death>>>>>>>>>anything that ever happened in Naruto XD

and the death of a ship>>>>any death in Naruto

PS: please do not compare Naruto and OP on logic because anyone who read both could destroy Naruto in that argument

even a great chapter of Naruto like the one this week has illogical things in it, in fact it broke down everything Kishi built up in part 1 and than to top it of he broke down everything in part 2, everything in just ONE chapter

 

[Ōkami]

I don't think this has anything to do with quality or quantity or who has the better story, it's about following logic. Some survivals in One Piece defy all logic, which is not the case in Naruto. As I said, I like both equally and believe unless Oda messes up big time, One Piece will be better than Naruto by the end it reaches its conclusion. But Oda has to stop with the miraculous survivals.

If Oda legitimately wanted to kill off characters he would have.

A lot of his characters still have potential to show up later and make an impact and Oda has though ahead and kept them alive for that very reason.

Also it doesn't defy logic for people to survive from the brink of death.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

If Oda legitimately wanted to kill off characters he would have.

A lot of his characters still have potential to show up later and make an impact and Oda has though ahead and kept them alive for that very reason.

Also it doesn't defy logic for people to survive from the brink of death.

Cough cough naruto, sasuke, obito, Madara, etc.

 

[cajin]

I really don't like One Piece. I've read about 180 chapters and it's so boring. Drawing is hideous, story has a lot of potential, but a lot of mistakes. For example, there is no real pirate in the show. Pirates here don't do things that pirates usually do. Luffy doesn't want to be a pirate but a goody good who will always save a day. Also he is the exact replika of Goku. Always loosing himself in conversation with others and then doing the right thingy. Battles are like SUPER LAME. I mean at a begining of Naruto we have Zabuza, and at a begining of OP we have a CLOWN PIRATE. Wtf. What i like about it is Zoro and some jokes through a show.

But, that is just my opinion, plenty of people really like Oda's show.

On the other hand I really like Naruto part 1. Shippuden is destroyed by filler, but manga is still very good. It has been a part of my life for seven years now.

 

[Ōkami]

Cough cough naruto, sasuke, obito, Madara, etc.

Good examples.

 

[David1996]

Death of a ship (merry)is really stupid imo, worst thing Oda did.

 

[Ōkami]

Death of a ship (merry)is really stupid imo, worst thing Oda did.

Not at all.

They treated the Going Merry like a crew member and thus were sadden by its death.

Also Oda admitted to breaking down and crying when drawing Merry's final moments.

 

[David1996]

Not at all.

They treated the Going Merry like a crew member and thus were sadden by its death.

Also Oda admitted to breaking down and crying when drawing Merry's final moments.

I never felt it, it's nothing like Ace's death..

breaking down and crying.. come on

 

[Ōkami]

I never felt it, it's nothing like Ace's death..

breaking down and crying.. come on

Some cords are struck while others aren't.

It was an emotional moment for him.

 

[David1996]

Some cords are struck while others aren't.

It was an emotional moment for him.

sissy :/

 

[Ōkami]

sissy :/

Yep clearly.

 

[kmrasengan]

Ok, I'm fine with that, but I think Oa stated in one of his SBS that he doesn't like to kill off his character unless he really has two, like Ace and Whitebeard. He thinks that having their dreams taken away from a defeat by Luffy and the SH is harsh enough.

btw, Merry's death wasn't stupid, he was their nakama, that's why Ussop saw it's spirit and the others could hear their voice, they did the right thing for a nakama that could no longer be with them, I can't see how that's stupid.

 

[SSS12]

people will be buthurt but sometimes the truth must be told...

my problem with one piece is the slow ass pace and the new world is teribble

It is slow, but thorough. Terrible is a strong word to throw around. It should be uphill from here on though.

If Oda legitimately wanted to kill off characters he would have.

A lot of his characters still have potential to show up later and make an impact and Oda has though ahead and kept them alive for that very reason.

Also it doesn't defy logic for people to survive from the brink of death.

Only if it makes any sense. Pell surviving a huge bomb even though he himself was carrying it? No sense. Especially since Pell is a minor character, no real reason for him to survive there. It's unlikely he will play much role in the future, only in the background if he does. Pointless.
It's like if Deidara would have survived his 10 km blast with him as the epicentre.

Ok, I'm fine with that, but I think Oa stated in one of his SBS that he doesn't like to kill off his character unless he really has two, like Ace and Whitebeard. He thinks that having their dreams taken away by a defeat from Luffy and the SH is harsh enough.

Yeah I remember that. Like I said, you can't defy logic just beacuse you don't like killing off characters, atleast explain how someone survived.