On what proof is Madara's susanoo greater defensively than sasuke?

[Apocalypse Ninja]

Idk but that's one of the bigger questions left in the series to be answered. something that would equal BM naruto more than likely

Yeah he probably does have something else to use, only time will tell with that. Of course i was still wondering if Sasuke would wrap his Susanoo around Naruto when he's in KCM like when Madara wrapped his Susanoo around the 9 tails when he fought Hashirama. I'm guessing it won't happen, but i still think it would be neat to see.

 

[slimreaper]

Yeah he probably does have something else to use, only time will tell with that. Of course i was still wondering if Sasuke would wrap his Susanoo around Naruto when he's in KCM like when Madara wrapped his Susanoo around the 9 tails when he fought Hashirama. I'm guessing it won't happen, but i still think it would be neat to see.

I actually think this is going to happen then they tandem take out juubito

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

you don't, just look at the pictures. the dialog isn't important

Alright then, I'll go over it then.

 

[HiddenSound]

Because Madara.

 

[scorezor]

given feats madara's susanoo of the same level as sasuke's have shown really no greater tanking feats

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its feats are nearly the same as madara's

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both complete were breached by a supported attack

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Conclusion: No evidence to suggest sasuke's is weaker defensively if they are the same level.
Noteerfect susanoo stabilized is on another level

well dude , it's like this , uchiha madara is a legend , he has perfect susano , he has the rinnegan he is a god pratically at this point , so perfect susano > final susanoo , understood? good . now stfu with these threads lol.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Why would you restrict madara yet show every ability sasuke has when comparing their susanoos?

Its not madaras fault that sasuke has nothing to compare to perfect susanoo.

 

[saw2097]

For starters, Madara's Complete Susanoo towers over mountains and can slice mountains in half.

Plus Susanoo is only as strong as the user's chakra cause when Sasuke was tired, his Susanoo started to drop, and Madara has obviously got a lot more power then Sasuke.

 

[slimreaper]

Why would you restrict madara yet show every ability sasuke has when comparing their susanoos?

Its not madaras fault that sasuke has nothing to compare to perfect susanoo.

when did I restrict madara? I realize that perfect susanoo stabilized is stronger than sasuke's, but for susanoo on equal levels they're equal.

 

[slimreaper]

For starters, Madara's Complete Susanoo towers over mountains and can slice mountains in half.

Plus Susanoo is only as strong as the user's chakra cause when Sasuke was tired, his Susanoo started to drop, and Madara has obviously got a lot more power then Sasuke.

sasuke has been said to have chakra comparable to madara's by kurama so that is disproven.

madara's final susanoo stabilized towers over mountains, read the note at the bottom of op

 

[slimreaper]

well dude , it's like this , uchiha madara is a legend , he has perfect susano , he has the rinnegan he is a god pratically at this point , so perfect susano > final susanoo , understood? good . now stfu with these threads lol.

I didn't say sasuke was better than madara in any way, read the op. I'm just saying that when they use susanoo of the same level they have the same defensive capabilities. The reason I made this thread is because fanboys say you can't use madara's feats because his susanoo in every form is stronger than sasuke's.

 

[NarutoKage2]

when did I restrict madara? I realize that perfect susanoo stabilized is stronger than sasuke's, but for susanoo on equal levels they're equal.

What point is there in comparing their susanoos without including madaras strongest one? Thats like saying kakashi is stronger in lightning than sasuke w.o kirin .
Its a genuine power of madaras EMS, not like he got it through cheat codes or anything.

 

[NarutoKage2]

sasuke has been said to have chakra comparable to madara's by kurama so that is disproven.

madara's final susanoo stabilized towers over mountains, read the not at the bottom of op

chakra being sinister=/= chakra being equal

 

[slimreaper]

What point is there in comparing their susanoos without including madaras strongest one? Thats like saying kakashi is stronger in lightning than sasuke w.o kirin .
Its a genuine power of madaras EMS, not like he got it through cheat codes or anything.

this isn't a versus thread. Im not saying sasuke is stronger. Im just saying that sasuke's susanoo= madara's susano if they are the same level.

 

[slimreaper]

chakra being sinister=/= chakra being equal

Even by Uchiha standards, Sasuke has exceptionally strong chakra. that is the very fist sentence under chakra prowess and control in narutopedia.

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[Dantee]

The OP specifically means stages below PS. I agree of course susanoo of those levels have the same durability.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Even by Uchiha standards, Sasuke has exceptionally strong chakra. that is the very fist sentence under chakra prowess and control in narutopedia.

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1. Narutopedias fan made.
2. Its still a faaaaaar cry from madara, who had by far the strongest chakra amongst uchiha and shinobi in general.

You should stop, a fundamental flaw in your thinking is you fail to understand that a susanoos strength varies with a users chakra, something sasuke is leagues behind madara in. Sasuke got tired fighting barely 2 hours against the kages nd co, madara on his own fought the senju clan for a full day. All his abilities are op because of his massive enduranceand stamina, including his susanoo. Taking away the size and scale of his techs would be to take away what makes him madara. Those traits define him. You might as well have restricted his breathing and made him blind and then compare his susanoo to sasukes . Smh.

 

[Microsword57]

1. Narutopedias fan made.
2. Its still a faaaaaar cry from madara, who had by far the strongest chakra amongst uchiha and shinobi in general.

You should stop, a fundamental flaw in your thinking is you fail to understand that a susanoos strength varies with a users chakra, something sasuke is leagues behind madara in. Sasuke got tired fighting barely 2 hours against the kages nd co, madara on his own fought the senju clan for a full day. All his abilities are op because of his massive enduranceand stamina, including his susanoo. Taking away the size and scale of his techs would be to take away what makes him madara. Those traits define him. You might as well have restricted his breathing and made him blind and then compare his susanoo to sasukes . Smh.

So you feel it is unfair to compare Madara's Susanoo with Sasuke's Susanoo without a stabilized perfect Susanoo. Yet, your comparing a Sasuke with the Mangekyou Sharingan to a Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. This is hardly fair. Try comparing Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke to Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke. The feats of Chakra consumption and exhaustion seem polarized.

 

[NarutoKage2]

So you feel it is unfair to compare Madara's Susanoo with Sasuke's Susanoo without a stabilized perfect Susanoo. Yet, your comparing a Sasuke with the Mangekyou Sharingan to a Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. This is hardly fair. Try comparing Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke to Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke. The feats of Chakra consumption and exhaustion seem polarized.

When did i compare EMS madara to MS sasuke?

I was stating all EMS feats be included for both, thats whats fair.

Edit: that example wasnt about ems or ms. It was about stamina, which corelates to jutsu size and streength.
Madara wasnt able to fight all day because of ems, but his stamina.

 

[slimreaper]

1. Narutopedias fan made.
2. Its still a faaaaaar cry from madara, who had by far the strongest chakra amongst uchiha and shinobi in general.

You should stop, a fundamental flaw in your thinking is you fail to understand that a susanoos strength varies with a users chakra, something sasuke is leagues behind madara in. Sasuke got tired fighting barely 2 hours against the kages nd co, madara on his own fought the senju clan for a full day. All his abilities are op because of his massive enduranceand stamina, including his susanoo. Taking away the size and scale of his techs would be to take away what makes him madara. Those traits define him. You might as well have restricted his breathing and made him blind and then compare his susanoo to sasukes . Smh.

proof madara has stronger chakra or are you just talking out of your ass. sasuke had just obtained the mangekyo sharingan and was new to its techs. Sasuke has used 18 MS techs in the last day and still hasn't shown signs of being tired

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that being said, I am not saying sasuke is stronger than madara im just saying that sasuke's susanoo of equal levels have the same defensive capabilities as madara's. did you even read the thread? and another thing narutopedia has never let me down before, I understand its fan made but I've never seen any inaccuracies in their text at all. Its pretty reliable

 

[slimreaper]

When did i compare EMS madara to MS sasuke?

I was stating all EMS feats be included for both, thats whats fair.

you compared MS sasuke that fought the kages to Ems madara that fought the senju