On Minato being vulnerable.

[Steinbiz]

Ok. He's fighting a friggin god. Give him some slack. The fact that he's not acting like his normal self and feeling a bit flustered and fighting sloppy the past chapter is because he's experiencing trauma from Obito being the ultimate evil and the one who summoned Kurama 16 years ago.

The only reason Tobirama is reacting to things quicker than Minato is because Tobirama is calm and collected. He's literally got nothing to lose. Minato is dealing with the sadness of his student and trying to protect his son from actual death in the process. Minato's got way more on his plate to worry about than Tobirama does.

Edo KCM Minato stomps pretty much anyone in the show besides Juubito.

"But Steinbiz, what about Madara?" Please. Tell me again how Madara hits KCM Minato.

Not only right now, but when Obito attacked the village 16 years ago, Minato did damn well having to worry about his family and the entire village while dealing with Kurama(full power) and Obito. Minato is pretty much known for dealing with dire situations, under huge pressure.

Bottom line, Kishi is just showing Minato's vulnerable side for a change. Up until now, Minato has never been touched(to our knowledge(besides Obito)) and had the title "flee on sight" in the 3rd war. Even Raikage said he thought no one could ever surpass him. But now that Minato is dealing with a god shinobi and has even more at stake in this battle than any previous battle, Kishi has to show that Minato isn't a god himself, he's just really really good. He is human after all, well, you know what I mean.

 

[Clouds]

i agree with most of this and he's my favorite character

but there are a few people stronger then him. :c

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Minato also knows that he is Edo and he can normally allow to get messed up in a fight, because he will just regenerate.

I know Minato wouldnt let any sealing techinques get near him.

 

[supman]

Ok. He's fighting a friggin god. Give him some slack. The fact that he's not acting like his normal self and feeling a bit flustered and fighting sloppy the past chapter is because he's experiencing trauma from Obito being the ultimate evil and the one who summoned Kurama 16 years ago.

The only reason Tobirama is reacting to things quicker than Minato is because Tobirama is calm and collected. He's literally got nothing to lose. Minato is dealing with the sadness of his student and trying to protect his son from actual death in the process. Minato's got way more on his plate to worry about than Tobirama does.

Edo KCM Minato stomps pretty much anyone in the show besides Juubito.

"But Steinbiz, what about Madara?" Please. Tell me again how Madara hits KCM Minato.

Not only right now, but when Obito attacked the village 16 years ago, Minato did damn well having to worry about his family and the entire village while dealing with Kurama(full power) and Obito. Minato is pretty much known for dealing with dire situations, under huge pressure.

Bottom line, Kishi is just showing Minato's vulnerable side for a change. Up until now, Minato has never been touched(to our knowledge(besides Obito)) and had the title "flee on sight" in the 3rd war. Even Raikage said he thought no one could ever surpass him. But now that Minato is dealing with a god shinobi and has even more at stake in this battle than any previous battle, Kishi has to show that Minato isn't a god himself, he's just really really good. He is human after all, well, you know what I mean.

i guess he'll just flash around madara to death

 

[jinxedsince1984]

minato is already dead people!! so its way to late for him to be vulnerable. his arm was ripped off but obito did not destroy it into pieces.we may see the second go pick it up and attach it back.dont forget he is the creator of edo. minato crying over not killing obito years ago clearly is kishi adding in fillers to stretch the comic.every one who witness that fight saw the fourth blast him dead on with a large rasengan and after he stabbed obito in the chest.after obito white zetsu body started to fall apart and we seen blood!! kishi made obito and madara immortal to stretch the storyline.we all seen the first stab madara in the heart and he continued to live on(shake my head)

 

[Jako98146]

I agree with most of this
But Madara>KCM Minato

 

[Avinash012]

Completly Agreed I can't think of anyone beside's Madara and Hashirama can beat him (ofcourse Obito) ......

Minato didn't even feared Uchiha Madara(Obito) , he didn't loose his cool even after doubtng that the masked man is Madara ........
he is just beng Emotional towords his student ...Minato is going to rock the BF with his BM in next chapter.........

 

[Filo]

minato is already dead people!! so its way to late for him to be vulnerable. his arm was ripped off but obito did not destroy it into pieces.we may see the second go pick it up and attach it back.dont forget he is the creator of edo. minato crying over not killing obito years ago clearly is kishi adding in fillers to stretch the comic.every one who witness that fight saw the fourth blast him dead on with a large rasengan and after he stabbed obito in the chest.after obito white zetsu body started to fall apart and we seen blood!! kishi made obito and madara immortal to stretch the storyline.we all seen the first stab madara in the heart and he continued to live on(shake my head)

We still are not sure what happened when the 1st stabbed madara in the heart. It looked like genjutsu many people theorized

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

I agree with this thread. Thank you!

 

[Namikaze Haru]

i completely agree, only obito can prob beat him, people say that hashirama and madara can beat him but i don't see how, they have more power but his speed makes that useless. remember what goku said when facing cell? "having all the power in the world is useless if you can't even hit the guy" part from obito only person i seeing beating minato is a fully powered nagato

 

[Naijakid]

Minato>itachi
Minato>tobirama
Minato>genma and Ebisu

 

[griems]

If Gaara found a way to pull Madara out of his Susanoo who's to say Minato can't think of a way to do the same.

Non-edo Madara without his Susanoo is very vulnerable. It's pretty lame to think he could just get pulled from it but hey... it happened so that does mean it doesn't guard from below. If Minato figures that out he could mark the ground.

But this is all speculation.

Still a good post OP

 

[jaykuhz]

Minato will start screaming and grow his arm back

 

[Ahmed1993]

If Gaara found a way to pull Madara out of his Susanoo who's to say Minato can't think of a way to do the same.

Non-edo Madara without his Susanoo is very vulnerable. It's pretty lame to think he could just get pulled from it but hey... it happened so that does mean it doesn't guard from below. If Minato figures that out he could mark the ground.

But this is all speculation.

Still a good post OP

Onoki lightened the sand for Gaara so that he can do that to Madara.
No edo Madara can go PS or normal Susanoo with LEGS
Non edo Minato Don't have KCM

 

[griems]

Onoki lightened the sand for Gaara so that he can do that to Madara.
No edo Madara can go PS or normal Susanoo with LEGS
Non edo Minato Don't have KCM

The point was he can be removed from Susanoo - And if you want to get technical, non edo Madara has far lesser feats than the current one we see today.

Also I wasn't even counting in the fact that Minato doesn't have KCM, he doesn't need it.

Unlocking Rinnegan after having to alter your DNA just before you die is right up there with getting Kyuubi chakra before death so both don't count Imo.

I'm not saying Minato would win, just saying there's a possibility.

 

[Oblivionx]

I think i don't need to say anything but still i'm pretty much depressed and i want now something awesome and original from minato not some random BM. Come on guys let him show his natural attacks and on top of all i want back his former cool self

 

[Ahmed1993]

The point was he can be removed from Susanoo - And if you want to get technical, non edo Madara has far lesser feats than the current one we see today.

Also I wasn't even counting in the fact that Minato doesn't have KCM, he doesn't need it.

Unlocking Rinnegan after having to alter your DNA just before you die is right up there with getting Kyuubi chakra before death so both don't count Imo.

I'm not saying Minato would win, just saying there's a possibility.

He can be removed from a normal Susanoo without legs.
Not only Perfect Susanoo has legs.
And it took a combination of Ononki and Gaara to do it.
And if Minato mark the ground , Madara would destroy the ground , he has far more experience than Minato , he isn't reckless like Obito.

Non edo Minato doesn't have much chakra so KCM would be effective for a non edo Minato.

And no , Minato acquired 50 % Kyuubi in his death moment ,Madara acquired Rinnegan while he was alive , and he had a possibility to get back his vitality with Gakido

 

[griems]

He can be removed from a normal Susanoo without legs.
Not only Perfect Susanoo has legs.
And it took a combination of Ononki and Gaara to do it.
And if Minato mark the ground , Madara would destroy the ground , he has far more experience than Minato , he isn't reckless like Obito.

Non edo Minato doesn't have much chakra so KCM would be effective for a non edo Minato.

And no , Minato acquired 50 % Kyuubi in his death moment ,Madara acquired Rinnegan while he was alive , and he had a possibility to get back his vitality with Gakido

You seem to miss what I'm saying..

We don't know if Madara can't be removed from perfect Susanoo.
We don't know how much chakra Minato has, surely it's less than KCM but to say he wouldn't be effective is a stretch

Madara altered his DNA after his fight with Hashi to obtain Senju DNA and only after that and god knows what else he tried (see: Zetsu's) did he awaken Rinnegan. He literally said "shortly before my death" so that mean he was really old. So unless you want to pit old ass Madara against Minato he doesn't have Rinnegan.

 

[Ovan]

Lol. Everyone gonna try using this type of excuse when their favorites die or beaten.

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

He can be removed from a normal Susanoo without legs.
Not only Perfect Susanoo has legs.
And it took a combination of Ononki and Gaara to do it.
And if Minato mark the ground , Madara would destroy the ground , he has far more experience than Minato , he isn't reckless like Obito.

Non edo Minato doesn't have much chakra so KCM would be effective for a non edo Minato.

And no , Minato acquired 50 % Kyuubi in his death moment ,Madara acquired Rinnegan while he was alive , and he had a possibility to get back his vitality with Gakido

I agree with this. Minato doesn't just teleport he has to teleport to a marking or one of his special kuni so if there's no marking near madara he can get to him as fast. And in perfect susanoo madara is in the head waaaaaaaaaay at the top minato has no way of entering that susanoo more pulling madara out of it. Where ever minato throws a kuni or marks the ground one slash from that sword destroys everything not to mention the everything else besides susanoo he has. Even back he got obtained hashi dna after the VOTE fight I don't see minato being him out of a entire clan of senjus not of them could compete with him except the ninja would up untill recently was considered the one of the strongest after the so6p

Saying minato would beat madara is pretty much saying he can hold his own against hashi and we all know that's not happening.