[Spoilers] On BZ, The Sharingan, And Infinite Tsukyomi.

NaruSasuRival

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This will be a short thread, and the reason it is here is the lack of question thread. So here is the take.

I. We know this about Sharingan

0. It can read the stone tablet
1. It can copy Jutsus if you are a master like Kakashi.
2. It can record everything it sees. This is how Itachi showed the massacre of his clan to Sasuke.
3. At a higher level, it can cancel Infinite Tsukyomi (Sasuke's Sharingan, or Sharinnegan, or Rinnegan).

II. Did you noticed these about BZ

a. It is confirmed he is not Madara's will. He was at the Valley of the end and before even Madara was born. BZ was even there before the birth of Indra and Ashura

b. BZ can read and write the stone tablet
c. BZ can record action just like Sharingan
d. BZ is not affected by Infinite Tsukyomi, i.e., he can cancel the effect of the light. Notice that the light was touching everyone including him.

III. Question

From everything listed above, it appears that BZ has almost all the basic power of Sharingan. So, the following questions arise.

i. Is BZ the one who sealed the sharingan source in Indra just like Obito sealed the Sharingan in Kakashi. Noticed that Hagoromo did not know BZ was around, and he was certainly happy to see Indra having power like him. Maybe BZ sneaked and gave power to Indra so that he can easily control him.

j. Is Hagoromo hidding something about his children. Why is Indra's power actually closer to BZ's power than to Hagoromo's power.

Anyaway, I wanted you guys to notice there something fishy about Indra (1) Indra's will is different from Hagoromo's, and (2) his powers are completely different from Hagoromo's powers.
 

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after I point 3 i stopped reading
 

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I've been putting together a theory on these very questions. Should be finished shortly.
 

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Actually Hagoromo did know about Black Zetsu's existence because of this :-

Here we see two people, Black Zetsu and Hagoromo. Both have equal knowledge about everything. But, here we see BZ saying that Hagoromo never knew about BZ's existence. But, this was only from BZ's point of view. Hagoromo never said anything about this.

This raises my suspiscion that Hagoromo knew about Black Zetsu's existence.

Another point, that I would like to mention is that Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sauske Sun and Moon seals, to seal Kaguya. But, the problem is even if Kaguya is sealed, BZ will keep on reviving Kaguya because there is nothing to seal him.

In the recent chapter, Hagoromo appears before the Edo Hokages and once again talks about seals. Question is, how would that be related to Kaguya if the Sun and Moon seals are enough ?

Unless of course the Seal in question will seal Black Zetsu ensuring that Kaguya would never be revived. But that would mean that Hagoromo knew about BZ's existence.

I find it pretty funny that Black Zetsu is so much filled with pride that he calls Hagoromo, Fodder and Garbage. Yet, Hagoromo is the son of Kaguya and the origin of the Ashura and Indra fiasco. Lol

I highly doubt that Black Zetsu could change the tablet if he can't read it. Hagoromo made the tablet in such a way that only the Sharingan and it's higher stages can read it. As such, either Black Zetsu used the Sharingan or took an Uchiha's help to change the text on the tablet.
 

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Actually Hagoromo did know about Black Zetsu's existence because of this :-

Here we see two people, Black Zetsu and Hagoromo. Both have equal knowledge about everything. But, here we see BZ saying that Hagoromo never knew about BZ's existence. But, this was only from BZ's point of view. Hagoromo never said anything about this.

This raises my suspiscion that Hagoromo knew about Black Zetsu's existence.

Another point, that I would like to mention is that Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sauske Sun and Moon seals, to seal Kaguya. But, the problem is even if Kaguya is sealed, BZ will keep on reviving Kaguya because there is nothing to seal him.

In the recent chapter, Hagoromo appears before the Edo Hokages and once again talks about seals. Question is, how would that be related to Kaguya if the Sun and Moon seals are enough ?

Unless of course the Seal in question will seal Black Zetsu ensuring that Kaguya would never be revived. But that would mean that Hagoromo knew about BZ's existence.

I find it pretty funny that Black Zetsu is so much filled with pride that he calls Hagoromo, Fodder and Garbage. Yet, Hagoromo is the son of Kaguya and the origin of the Ashura and Indra fiasco. Lol


Sorry, but you did not give any evidence that Hagoromo knew about BZ, which does not surprise me since I have never seen hagoromo mentioning anything about BZ.


I highly doubt that Black Zetsu could change the tablet if he can't read it. Hagoromo made the tablet in such a way that only the Sharingan and it's higher stages can read it. As such, either Black Zetsu used the Sharingan or took an Uchiha's help to change the text on the tablet.

It is funny how you like to deny everything the manga said. As long as nothing else in the manga contradict what BZ said, you have nothing to say. So far, BZ has proven that he really used Madara, and that he was always around. Therefore, the least I can do know is to accept the details he gave.

Also, you are denying the fact that BZ records everything he sees. He even recorded Itachi vs Sasuke so that Tobi can review it later, and this is how Tobi knew what happened during the fact and prepared to face Sasuke. Better, BZ was under the moon when Madara started the IT, and he still did not get caught. So, you should start reading the manga first, before making speculation. And when you speculate, please do not speculate on well stated facts. Rather, speculate on what is not known.
 

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interesting similarities. maybe hes the sharingans will!!!
 
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