I never got spanked either, and to me spanking is hitting
In the same sense that photography is shooting.
Thankfully, though, we are independent beings.
well, do you even know what the job description is for an university professor?
Job description and job qualifications are two different things.
To be frank, teaching is such an inflated profession that it's being threatened by Youtube and boredom.
Take computer programming, for example... you can pay someone to sit there and instruct you in something that you can largely read out of the book (required for the course) for the same effect. In either case - you're going to spend just as much time on developer forums asking questions related to the nuances of each language, compiler, and library you've decided to use (not to mention the various approaches to solving programming problems).
So what is really gained?
There are some disciplines where instructors really do earn their keep... but for the most part, the teaching profession has been inflated in value because we encourage everyone to "work hard" and "get educated" - when their intellect is more suited for training certificates. It's gotten so bad that college degrees are becoming largely irrelevant. Third party certifications and technical certificates tend to carry more weight these days than full fledged degrees.
Everything can be achieved by talking, you dont need to torment your child, if you work on a good upbringing your child learns the right things and situations in which some parents might use a punishment like that, you can always talk to the child and let them know that they did wrong in a much more civilized way
My parents never did anything without an explanation.
But I can tell you, right now - I'm not the type of person that cares what others consider to be 'civilized.' Why should I care whether you think something is civilized or not? I ended up benefiting the most from my behavior that you are now upset with (and that is why you are upset - you're just the fool who got shown up).
And, honestly, that's how I work (and a lot of other people, too). It's blatantly evident in videogames. I'll kill you mercilessly over and over - only bothering to switch strategies when you display resistance to what has been working. You can call it 'cheese' all you want to, blame it on the game programmers, whatever - fools are forever condemned to a life subjected to plunder.
Bluntly - nothing changes that. Even this "civilization" you have preys upon the foolish. It's not as apparent, because the raping and pillaging is distributed across millions of people - but those with the capacity to understand a system will always have an advantage over those without the capacity to understand it.
That aside... human beings are predators by nature. Even fools. Why don't I act the way in public that I act in videogames? Because people are pack hunters. While I generally consider the average person sub-sentient, they are often intelligent enough to recognize such direct exploitation and (surprisingly enough) are able to come to the logical conclusion that if I managed to exploit one person - that I can then exploit another. All of those who suspect themselves vulnerable to exploitation then become rather staunchly opposed to my continuing that behavior.
They can talk to me about it. Honestly - I don't care. Remember - I don't generally consider them to be sentient beings.
So I continue.
What to do? Obviously - talking won't end my blatant exploitation of the system. They've tried that.
The only thing left is the application of force, or submission to my desire to exploit them.
For some kids - talking is enough.
For people like me - we really don't give a damned what you think. Even when we are kids. If you don't physically stop us from doing something - we'll continue doing it.
Why? Because we -value- conversation. We take a conversation, analyze it, and strip whatever value we can from it. We're utilitarian in that regard. Just like in our actions and with systems - we analyze them and strip whatever value we can find in them. If we see that there are no consequences worth pausing over - there's no reason to cease something that generates a value/benefit.
Since I don't intrinsically value your life or well-being (don't get me wrong - I am cooperative and helpful - but that's mostly because I understand that behavior to be beneficial to the function of the system I am within) - I'm not going to sit there and think: "Oh... I
hurt you? ... That's ... that's ... I can't believe that's what I did..."
My thought is: "So... you think I'm so stupid that I didn't realize I was going to harm you? That was kind of why I went through the effort of doing what I did. It would be so amazing if you gave me the opportunity to witness spontaneous human combustion, right now."
PS: also who feeds their child a pill for punishment, thats sick
This exemplifies that you really didn't understand what I posted, earlier.
Like I said - my analysis and standpoint are superior to yours, which renders your opinion largely invalid. It doesn't mean I won't strip whatever value I can from this conversation - but, unfortunately, I really don't even get the benefit of analzying a unique personality to emulate during internal analysis and dialogue.
To further illustrate this - the desired effect is not for the kid to actually consume aspirin - but for the intensely bitter and undesirable experience of having it in their mouth (without the inert coating).
The other option (which my brothers and I discovered years ago when we were playing around, freezing stuff) was to take those cans of compressed air with the 'bittergent' addititve, turn it upside down, and give a double-tap to the mouth of a back-talking kid. Though that is prone to triggering spontaneous vomiting - so you need to keep that in mind before employing that.
Why is illustration of consequences important?
[video=youtube;8DrzCVAJtDw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DrzCVAJtDw[/video]
Holy shit! Consequences for behavior!
Notice - after the application of the Taser to the woman who is (obviously) not responding to your 'talk' solution... her behavior is abruptly discontinued and order restored. The kids, also, abruptly cease their obstructive behavior - and many bystanders become far more open to the idea of 'talking' rather than doing whatever the hell they feel like doing (because someone just got dropped for doing whatever the hell they felt like).
These people were not shown the direct relationship between their behavior and -undesirable- consequences. Thus - they live with the belief that they are entitled to acting however they want. Talking is all that's going to happen, right?
By no means should one look for an excuse to strike or otherwise inconvenience their child... but if they aren't responding to your efforts to correct their behavior - by all means - utilize other tactics.
