OMFG Oda! Coby - The Orange Admiral

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You do realize that you could have avoided that by just posting a title that actually fits the argument better.
If you're trying to say that he could have avoided people posting too off-topic from his theory by titling his thread better, then no, that shouldn't be how it works. If you're gonna base your post off of the title and not the theory/content of the post itself, then you shouldn't be posting tbh.
Yes!

For example, when Zephyr defected, Garp was offered, and when Kong was promoted, Garp was offered, when Sengoku and Kong were promoted, Garp was offered.

These are just three likely scenarios
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the pre-skip Admirals was given the position because Garp denied it first. Wasn't it mentioned or something that Kuzan owed Garp or felt indebted to him? Could be because Garp denied the position of Admiral once upon a time, so it was given to Kuzan.
 

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You do realize that you could have avoided that by just posting a title that actually fits the argument better.
Probably right but that doesn't excuse people ignoring the whole theory all together just say a character is stronger than another, trying to turn a theory into a complete power debate. I that had to was say they disagree. I said I think Shanks is the CURRENT strongest and tried to back it up with the possible abilities and reference of the members after doing some research and some guy said "WB>Shanks."

You see what I mean now? I thought I'd try my luck and it looks like there's no hope for this place any more



True, but regardless, the conduct of some members here is shocking
The problem is that this site is FLOODED with battle junkies who only care about discussing strength levels. Not only that, it seems some members find it very difficult to see things from the other guy's point of view.

It's said that Garp has rejected the promotion more than once, not that he was constantly offered the rank. There's a difference. That can easily be explained that whenever a new Admiral was needed, such as when one died, defected, or was given a promotion, they offered Garp the ability to fill the space and he said no, so they gave it to the next person who qualified.
Stop talking Riker Slade. Your intelligence, logic and common sense is wasted here. Soon enough, you'll have a permanent headache and tumor. Join me and Vector in a better environment with no trolls and smarter people. Save yourself! Join us!
 

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Probably right but that doesn't excuse people ignoring the whole theory all together just say a character is stronger than another, trying to turn a theory into a complete power debate. I that had to was say they disagree. I said I think Shanks is the CURRENT strongest and tried to back it up with the possible abilities and reference of the members after doing some research and some guy said "WB>Shanks."



The problem is that this site is FLOODED with battle junkies who only care about discussing strength levels. Not only that, it seems some members find it very difficult to see things from the other guy's point of view.



Stop talking Riker Slade. Your intelligence, logic and common sense is wasted here. Soon enough, you'll have a permanent headache and tumor. Join me and Vector in a better environment with no trolls and smarter people. Save yourself! Join us!
I was actually thinking of joining Oro Jackson earlier. I like the name they chose for it.
 

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If you're trying to say that he could have avoided people posting too off-topic from his theory by titling his thread better, then no, that shouldn't be how it works. If you're gonna base your post off of the title and not the theory/content of the post itself, then you shouldn't be posting tbh.


I wouldn't be surprised if one of the pre-skip Admirals was given the position because Garp denied it first. Wasn't it mentioned or something that Kuzan owed Garp or felt indebted to him? Could be because Garp denied the position of Admiral once upon a time, so it was given to Kuzan.
I reckon in order:

Zephyr out -> Sakazuki in
Kong up -> Borsalino in
Sengoku up -> Kuzan in

It makes sense, afterall, this directly reflects their age and therefore probable development as combatants, but also we can see resemblances in the Admirals and their replacements

Zephyr and Akainu are absolutist and hardline Marines
Kong and Ki (from Kizaru) mean Monkey
Sengoku liked Kuzan (as seen via his recommendation), similar types of justice

Fujitora is also similar to Kuzan, which means Ryokugyu is probably a hardcore 'OMFG Pirates must die' kind of guy

Smoker is similar to Borsalino in the sense that they act out of own interest, so his replacement is logical, and then Smokers promotion leads to Coby's promotion. As Shiroryuu's replacement, Orekani also rivals Luffy - this is their relation

It all works out!
 

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I'd rather see Coby not being Admiral than seeing my man Sabo dying.

:'( Well if that happens...I will finally experience that feeling again....*sigh*
 

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Sabo wont die.....it would be bad writing on Oda's part in fact it would make me hate him he cant do this to me again :NO: I just cant take another brothers death Sabo grew on me if he died it would be a HUGE F U in the face.....so no I hate this theory and coby is fodder he will never get Ace's fruit the navy c#nt!!.
 

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I'd prefer if Coby would be the first admiral that's not a DF user.

Sabo wont die.....it would be bad writing on Oda's part in fact it would make me hate him he cant do this to me again :NO: I just cant take another brothers death Sabo grew on me if he died it would be a HUGE F U in the face.....so no I hate this theory and coby is fodder he will never get Ace's fruit the navy c#nt!!.
Calm down dude.
 
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If you're trying to say that he could have avoided people posting too off-topic from his theory by titling his thread better, then no, that shouldn't be how it works. If you're gonna base your post off of the title and not the theory/content of the post itself, then you shouldn't be posting tbh.


I wouldn't be surprised if one of the pre-skip Admirals was given the position because Garp denied it first. Wasn't it mentioned or something that Kuzan owed Garp or felt indebted to him? Could be because Garp denied the position of Admiral once upon a time, so it was given to Kuzan.
He said in his post that Shanks was the strongest person alive and the thread was about the abilities and powers of the Red Hair Pirates, so those posts weren't off topic.
 

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He said in his post that Shanks was the strongest person alive and the thread was about the abilities and powers of the Red Hair Pirates, so those posts weren't off topic.
They were. Posts like "Kaido>Shanks" or "WB>Shanks" were lazy because they didn't even discuss the nature of his powers or the potential background and out-of-series information about the characters like the thread was about. They addressed the scale of his powers, which was a minor and rather unimportant part of the thread, and even then, they did just by saying "Insert name>Insert name", not even being in-depth with it or giving room for actual debate. It was basically terrible discussing and it wasn't the OP's fault, it was the members having petty attention spans.
 

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This is a good theory. However, I just cannot see Coby playing such a major role. I mean, defeating two admirals? That seems off. Where does all this leave the rest of the straw hats? The general consensus was that Luffy avenges his brother (seriously, if anyone's beating this guy it should be the guy who's brother died in his arms), Zoro fights Fujitora and Sanji fights Kizaru. Also, what business would a current underling like Coby have at the most important meeting in the world? If Kizaru's going to be there, then Coby won't as he isn't a part of Kizaru's team (he may be now, not sure yet).
 

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This is a good theory. However, I just cannot see Coby playing such a major role. I mean, defeating two admirals? That seems off. Where does all this leave the rest of the straw hats? The general consensus was that Luffy avenges his brother (seriously, if anyone's beating this guy it should be the guy who's brother died in his arms), Zoro fights Fujitora and Sanji fights Kizaru. Also, what business would a current underling like Coby have at the most important meeting in the world? If Kizaru's going to be there, then Coby won't as he isn't a part of Kizaru's team (he may be now, not sure yet).
They can still fight Fujitora and Kizaru, but they aren't the last opponents, so their battles in the final arc either won't happen as they may not be involved (could just be Luffy + Revs etc whilst the rest of the crew boycott), logically, Mihawk will be stronger than Fujitora, so their fights with the Admirals will be before Sakazuki and Borsalino fight Coby. To be honest Coby's fight with Borsalino could be an off screen one like Ace vs Blackbeard or Sakazuki vs Kuzan
 

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They can still fight Fujitora and Kizaru, but they aren't the last opponents, so their battles in the final arc either won't happen as they may not be involved (could just be Luffy + Revs etc whilst the rest of the crew boycott), logically, Mihawk will be stronger than Fujitora, so their fights with the Admirals will be before Sakazuki and Borsalino fight Coby. To be honest Coby's fight with Borsalino could be an off screen one like Ace vs Blackbeard or Sakazuki vs Kuzan
Could be. Oda's always got a plan, maybe I shouldn't underestimate Coby's relevance. This is the same guy who was introduced since chapter 2 and he seems to be slowly making progress. We'll see.

Also, Dragon fighting Smoker? Seems like bit of smack in the face to be honest. The worlds most wanted man, who is widely theorised to have the ultimate devil fruit (that weather shits OP) is to fight Smoker? The guy who just got his ass handed to him back to back during punk hazard? I always imagined Dragon would fight someone higher and seemingly more important to the WG like Kong, or something of that sort.
 
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Could be. Oda's always got a plan, maybe I shouldn't underestimate Coby's relevance. This is the same guy who was introduced since chapter 2 and he seems to be slowly making progress. We'll see.

Also, Dragon fighting Smoker? Seems like bit of smack in the face to be honest. The worlds most wanted man, who is widely theorised to have the ultimate devil fruit (that weather shits OP) is to fight Smoker? The guy who just got his ass handed to him back to back during punk hazard? I always imagined Dragon would fight someone higher and seemingly more important to the WG like Kong, or something of that sort.
If you read the other theory I linked in the OP it might shed some light on the possibility
 

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Could be. Oda's always got a plan, maybe I shouldn't underestimate Coby's relevance. This is the same guy who was introduced since chapter 2 and he seems to be slowly making progress. We'll see.

Also, Dragon fighting Smoker? Seems like bit of smack in the face to be honest. The worlds most wanted man, who is widely theorised to have the ultimate devil fruit (that weather shits OP) is to fight Smoker? The guy who just got his ass handed to him back to back during punk hazard? I always imagined Dragon would fight someone higher and seemingly more important to the WG like Kong, or something of that sort.
Slowly making progress isn't a good description. Coby has the fastest growth rate in the series.
 
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This theory is freaking genius. Did you come up with it yourself, guy? It's almost totally irrefutable.

This is now what I believe will happen, haha. You certainly changed my perspective on what the Final arc contains and how Coby will go about becoming an Admiral. Good stuff, man.
 
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