Smoker has superior feats and portysl and if you read my post it says med-high meaning it would be on the higher of meg dif damn near border lining high dif......Take off Zoro's bandana and stop D riding.
[Discussion] Old Garp Vs Old Rayleigh
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The funny thing is Zoro hasn't even went all out yet and when he does all hell is gonna break loose in the OP section y'all haters will be quiet Lol. Name a feat that Smoker has done post time skip that is way more impressive than 1080p cannon???
Well for one Zoro has no feats that put him over Smoker...
Also why can't the whole marine rival thing be used it's called portrayal same way how you Zoro fanboys put Zoro as Vice captain of the crew because he's the second strongest or how Luffy is the strongest because he's the captain you can't just pick and choose when this rule applies because it disfavors your favorite character...of course portrayal isn't everything however Smoker has shown greater CoA than Zoro and greater speed than Zoro this is fact.
Common sense: Smoker is stronger than Zoro otherwise what would be the point in having Oda make him chase after the head of the Strawhat crew and he could beat Zoro with high/extreme difficulty and would probably lose the same difficulty to Luffy.
Zoro fanboy sense: Derp Zoro High diffs Smoker because he's Zoro and he's beaten fodder he hasn't lost post time skip his feats are far more impressive.
You confuse destructive capability for overall strength...that's why your argument is ridiculous. If that's the case Whitebeard far outclasses Roger and Garp in strength. Enel also had a far more destructive capability than the majority of the characters stronger than him would you base his strength purely on his destructive capability?.
Zoro's 1080 cannon didn't even win him the fight.
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Everytime someone tells me Smoker has superior feats it makes me Lol. And no i'm not even talking about the difference in their opponents here or how much better Zoro was handled comparatively to Smoker since the timeskip, but the actual feats in terms of actual physical stats/abilities showed since then. What does Smoker have besides his punches? He possess arguably the weakest logia devil fruit whose only advantage is giving Smoker the ability to fly and great manoeuvrability. Became even more useless since the apparition of haki, making his smoke body expansion actually a weakness against AOE attacks. So a Smoker only having his punches and great manoeuvrability versus a powerhouse and armament specialist with great reflexive/striking speed, much greater fire power and mainly durability/endurance beast like Zoro. Assuming he somehow even gets the upperhand, what would do to defeat him? Punch him to death? Zoro on the other side has too many options to finish off Smoker. I don't see how Smoker has any chance featwise, let alone being put at such a higher pedestal to be capable to win after a moderate difficulty fight. Hype/portrayal-wise is the only debatable thing and judging by the current hype/portrayal, i'd bet on Zoro over Smoker any day
That said i'm out of this thread before this one becomes once again another Zoro boring discussion thread. You guys seem to like doing this very often. Remain on topic at least
That said i'm out of this thread before this one becomes once again another Zoro boring discussion thread. You guys seem to like doing this very often. Remain on topic at least
What feats has Zoro displayed post-TS to put him above Smoker? At least Smoker pulled off some impressive feats, like harming Vergo a lot more than Law (before the one shot) & Sanji did. The marine rival stuff isn't BS. You and I both know how much emphasis Oda loves to place on his writing, Oda established a rivalry between Luffy & Smoker ever since loguetown and I don't see it miraculously changing over a couple of beatings at PH. People love to discredit Smoker during his fight with Vergo because of how "easily" he lost due to a "disadvantage", when little do they know that Smoker wanted to retrieve Law's heart. Ofc Smoker would of still lost to Vergo.
Luffy pretty much told Smoker, I'll face you again once you get your body back (this was when he was in Tashigi's body). This implies that the rivalry is still there and they're pretty much still close to being equals. If Zoro can high-diff. him, what would that mean for someone like Luffy? A mid-diff. fight? That would be stupid... so Oda created a rivalry between Luffy and Smoker only to have him get mid-diff'd?
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It's pointless man...
TBogard, Zoro, and Aqueel are the biggest Zoro fanboys on this forum they refuse to believe that Zoro is weaker than Smoker and refuse to believe Sanji is almost relatively equal to Zoro. TBogard believes Zoro is close to Law in strength as well.
Bold: This is common sense and logic something Zoro fanboys refuse to acknowledge.
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Plot twist Coby was Luffy's marine rival all along Lol. Ok jokes aside maybe the Portrayal thing isn't complete Bs and maybe Smoker has shown more haki feats and speed feats than Zoro but the main fact here is Zoro hasn't gone all out yet. I rest my case U_U.
So I am a zoro fanboy for saying he can beat smoker high diff? Lol. and you are the one who refuse to acknowledge that smoker isn't all that his feats are not even that impressive to put him above Zoro. Luffy outclasses him and Zoro and Luffy are close in strength if anything Zoro is more of a rival to Luffy than Smoker.
Hey dude, Zoro too badass. Me not like. Zoro not allowed to have fans. You're not allowed to think Zoro can win a fight. If Zoro can win a fight, then you're a fanboy. Thinking someone who didn't even remotely go all out can defeat someone else who spent his time getting humiliated is really ridiculous. Just stop stupid wanker
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I belive Garp is stronger since he fought Roger and nearly killed him...also why is Zoro's name being tossed around here? Lel
Bruh obviously Zoro is a better swordsman naturally but Law's ability is too haxxed man once that room is activated Zoro is doomed U_U. I say Law would win against Zoro mid/high diff depending if Zoro has intel or not U_U.
Because Zoro isn't allowed to have fans, not allowed win fights, so even in discussions where his name is not involve, let us involve him to insult his fanbase and the character everytime we can
It was obviously not a serious post, but i think you're overhyping Law and his hax. It has huge limits
Yeah... like we've seen all of Smoker's capabilities with his DF over a 2 year TS. We saw nothing new as well.
Why does your gender say female, when you're actually a guy?
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