Old Base Sage Naruto was always above MS Susanoo Sasuke!!

[ANiMUS]

It's true, MS Sasuke was nearly Helen Keller blind at the bridge, if he was able to progress his Susano'o to PS he would be blind.

I agree with this, at the point where Zetsu met Sasuke, Naruto was definitely stronger and Sasuke had to lose a lot of his eyesight to where he could defeat Danzo. If Sasuke had a full day of rest after attaining v2 then that might have helped, though at that point Sasuke might have been able to use his Susano'o that was on Itachi's level.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

1. Both Pein and Danzo were handicapped

Pein actually came with info on Naruto from the jiraiya fight, hence the sound genjutsu failed, Naruto's trump card of one shotting all six paths at one go was negated

2. Naruto survived because of Kurama

So, sasuke gets crushed as well

3. Naruto admitted inferiority to Sasuke

wrong, refer to viz scan

4. BZ has lied before to provoke Indra's reincarnations to fight Ashura's reincarnations, so his word isn't actually credible

BZ has no reason to lie because the rinnegan had already been awakened and the infinte tsukuyomi plan was in action, In fact black zetsu himself was planning on fighting them using obito's body before madara showed up, he doesnt give two shits about making them fight like he did with madara

5. Sasuke hadn't unlocked Enton, Kagutsuchi and Susano'o at that time

You awaken your MS abilities the moment you gain Mangekyo, He had access to them

You mean a worn out Deva path?

paths are reanimated dead bodies, they do not tire like humans, if anything its naruto who would be tired because he is human

 

[Cruciatus]

Sasuke's performance has been lackluster ever since the war started: Duped by Killer B, clobbered at the Five Kage Summit, saved by Edo Itachi in the DSM Kabuto fight, Amaterasu fodderized by Juubi, Juubito, Madara and Kaguya, stabbed with his own sword, etc.

Cut Madara in half, freed Naruto from Kaguya's ice. ensured the only fighting force against Kaguya/Madara from IT, provided the team that saved the entire Shinobi Alliance from Juubito, Juubi and Madara, provided half of the power that defeated Juubito, is half of the pivotal part of the force to defeat Kaguya, killed White Zetsu, the source of the other side's army, and saved Itachi against Kabuto's Sound Genjutsu.

 

[Minator93]

Yeah I was wrong about that. But it still doesn't change the fact that once Deva Path got his powers back, the fight turned around completely and Naruto survived only because Pein decided to monologue, Hinata showed up and Kurama's power broke free.

Minator still can't refute:

1. Both Pein and Danzo were handicapped
2. Naruto survived because of Kurama
3. Naruto admitted inferiority to Sasuke
4. BZ has lied before to provoke Indra's reincarnations to fight Ashura's reincarnations, so his word isn't actually credible
5. Sasuke hadn't unlocked Enton, Kagutsuchi and Susano'o at that time

5 solid reasons why this thread is wrong, and he can't refute any of them.

^ Could this post be anymore wrong?

1. Danzou was severely handicapped whereas pain wasn't, Naruto did have a 1v1 against full powered Deva and he beat him U_U

2. Not really, Naruto survived because of his will, Kurama merely had a rampage, Naruto fought after Minato suppressed Kurama.

3. Never did, Viz proves Naruto admitted him superiority.

4. If anything given he knew more than Hagoromo, he's word is the Law of NV U_U

5. Oh but he had Lol

Oh would you look at that, the so called "solid" 5 reasons got refuted Lol

Sasuke's performance has been lackluster ever since the war started: Duped by Killer B, clobbered at the Five Kage Summit, saved by Edo Itachi in the DSM Kabuto fight, Amaterasu fodderized by Juubi, Juubito, Madara and Kaguya, stabbed with his own sword, etc.

It's the truth U_U

 

[frozen5]

This scan ends the arguement lol

ha nope naruto needs the nine tails like sauske needed itachi

 

[slimreaper]

^ Could this post be anymore wrong?

1. Danzou was severely handicapped whereas pain wasn't, Naruto did have a 1v1 against full powered Deva and he beat him U_U

2. Not really, Naruto survived because of his will, Kurama merely had a rampage, Naruto fought after Minato suppressed Kurama.

3. Never did, Viz proves Naruto admitted him superiority.

4. If anything given he knew more than Hagoromo, he's word is the Law of NV U_U

5. Oh but he had Lol

Oh would you look at that, the so called "solid" 5 reasons got refuted Lol


It's the truth U_U

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[Cooh]

Not at all Cooh.

I mean, Naruto said himself that if they fight they both die. How can he be above MS Sasuke with a statement like this? :erm:
Plus in that scan he said he needs the Kyuubi to fight Sasuke.

Also, I can't agree with the arguement that Naruto had barley any help against Pain when he had plenty: Kyuubi, Minato, Hinata and nearly every frog there is while Sasuke had Karin and his Hawk against Danzo. Naruto also had plenty of help against the 3rd Raikage and if it wasn't for Gaara the 4th Raikage would have been crippeled. Sasuke didn't barley lose, Ay never had a chance of winning.

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't put MS Sasuke above SM Naruto, imo it's pretty even.

 

[Aikor]

Why don't you listen? Black zetsu has been playing indra's reincarnation for as long as there has been one. Stop taking his words at face value.

2. Naruto had Intel, help from hinata, kurama, minato, and an army of frogs that he can't summon all at once on his own.

Love how you compare MS sasuke (the MS sasuke who fought Ay) to the SM clone that fought the 3rd.

stop comparing apples to oranges, sasuke didn't know his abilities fully yet.

But as usual, you'll have a bunch of *****es to say this is right, and you will ignore the truth... again

Umm sasuke lost against killer bee...he managed to survive because of jugo and karin..so u cant complain

 

[Sound]

This actually was a given which many people denied. I'm glad someone made a thread using manga feats and evidences to restate this. Good thread

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[Cruciatus]

Pein actually came with info on Naruto from the jiraiya fight, hence the sound genjutsu failed, Naruto's trump card of one shotting all six paths at one go was negated



So, sasuke gets crushed as well



wrong, refer to viz scan



BZ has no reason to lie because the rinnegan had already been awakened and the infinte tsukuyomi plan was in action, In fact black zetsu himself was planning on fighting them, he doesnt give two shits about making them fight like he did with madara



You awaken your MS abilities the moment you gain Mangekyo, He had access to them

1. He was still handicapped in that he was aiming to capture, not kill. And his most powerful powers weren't available to him

2. If means the feat he provided for SM isn't actually a SM Naruto feat, so his thread begins to fall apart there.

3. Post it again please

4. You clearly misunderstand why BZ lied in the first place. The plan to revive Kaguya and start IT was in motion, yes, but BZ needed to keep the Indra and Ashura reincarnations from joining forces. What better way to do that than to pit the Indra incarnation against the Ashura incarnation than by telling a lie that will provoke him to fight the Ashura incarnation? BZ's plan is to have one incarnation kill the other so the seal to defeat Kaguya couldn't be set in place and their goals would have a 100% chance of coming through. THAT is why BZ would lie.

5. Doesn't mean BZ knew he could use them.

 

[frozen5]

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because he saw sasuke getting free power up from itachi so he thought hey if you cant beat em join em im gonna mater the 9 tails... so yea stop posting failed scans to arrive at a non existant point

 

[slimreaper]

Umm sasuke lost against killer bee...he managed to survive because of jugo and karin..so u cant complain

Was that full powered MS sasuke?

 

[slimreaper]

because he saw sasuke getting free power up from itachi so he thought hey if you cant beat em join em im gonna mater the 9 tails... so yea stop posting failed scans to arrive at a non existant point

SO naruto can read minds?

Where did naruto get info on EMS?

 

[frozen5]

Was that full powered MS sasuke?

rib cage susanoo gets blasted... sooo yes.. fullpower

 

[BlinkST]

1. Since its no where proven BZ is lying its manga facts. FYI- it was white zetsu who was doing the talking not BZ.

Hardly matters either way, since Zetsu didn't know Sasuke's full capabilities.

2. Danzo was never handicapped nor was Pein.

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Danzo had to wait for Shisui's eye to recover from the Kage summit, which would have otherwise one-shotted Sasuke. Tendo couldn't use his power after nuking the village, and the 6 paths of pain in general suffered because of how much chakra he burnt up.

 

[frozen5]

SO naruto can read minds?

Where did naruto get info on EMS?

itachi told him he would be giving sasuke some power

 

[Cooh]

rib cage susanoo gets blasted... sooo yes.. fullpower

Sasuke never used Susanoo against Bee....

 

[Minator93]

"I need the 9 tails chakra to fight sasuke"

The explanation was there itself U_U

"I can't escape the fact that I'm the Nine-tails Jinchuriki, it's time for me to stop running."

Naruto+Minato+Hinata+Kurama+Tsunade+Intel beat Pein who wasnt trying to kill Naruto but extract kurama. Nagato/Pein quote "It's harder to extract then it is too kill" Naruto only lived because Pein needed Kurama. In other words Naruto Lost to Pein even with all that help.

SM loses to MS Susanoo Sasuke mid dif. No counter for Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrow. Minator you're weak bro just like your shitty threads. Step your game up biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. LAWD XD

Lel this fodder Lol

SM Naruto stomps MS Sasuke

Indeed.

I agree with this, at the point where Zetsu met Sasuke, Naruto was definitely stronger and Sasuke had to lose a lot of his eyesight to where he could defeat Danzo. If Sasuke had a full day of rest after attaining v2 then that might have helped, though at that point Sasuke might have been able to use his Susano'o that was on Itachi's level.

Nah Itachi's MS level was much greater.

This scan ends the arguement lol

Lel another one with lack of comprehension skill Lol

Cut Madara in half, freed Naruto from Kaguya's ice. ensured the only fighting force against Kaguya/Madara from IT, provided the team that saved the entire Shinobi Alliance from Juubito, Juubi and Madara, provided half of the power that defeated Juubito, is half of the pivotal part of the force to defeat Kaguya, killed White Zetsu, the source of the other side's army, and saved Itachi against Kabuto's Sound Genjutsu.

By the time that happened Naruto started to overpower Kaguya Lol

 

[frozen5]

Sasuke never used Susanoo against Bee....

never said he did... was talking about outcome even if he did

 

[UCE]

This will be fun.
Now then

First point:the mere SM clone beat an Edo third raikage who is "above" the 4th raikage part was way off! Both father and son are completely different opponents=different style of fight=different ways to land blows. The son's aka the 4th raikage was a little not easy to deal(proof naruto add trouble and sasuke too)
Also,sasuke's powers are different And you can imagine on what level? Good, moving on

^ point of this, it means that the significant battle comparison proofs nothing on your post.

Second point:sasuke was fighting danzuo alone, help how exactly? If you mean karin then wrong, she was trying to help by figuring Out danzou's trick aka the izanagi but however, sasuke already knew of his trick. Why do you think he used that itachi gentjutsu on the fight?yes correct, to see if danzou may fall under it for just a bit, every attack he made was just to completely shot down every eye on danzou's arm. Tobi did nothing, is danzou's foult for not taking sasuke seriusly.

3third point/your mistake:don't use black zetsu on this, it proofs nothing.

Mistake #4/point: SM naruto at that time had a limit of usage, ms sasuke is stronger no matter what argument you bring. Amateratsu+susano is something that, "that" time SM naruto wouln't take, shadow clones? Amateratsu > clones, rasengans? Susano, the only problem would be rasen shuriken? Not a problem, sasuke can either use a summoning to avoid it.

Like i said SM naruto has a limit. Why do you think the kyuubi chakra was need it for a power up? Lets make it simple.

Hebi sasuke > the start of shippuden naruto=naruto had to train to catch up in reality he gained SM who SM > hebi, then later ms > SM they grow together, one passes the other but then the other one catches up, KCM NARUTO > ms=you think? Duh

You can desagree with my post or counter. Is the basics after all​