Ok for the love of god ENDING THIS.

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well, hashi and tobirama both taught hiruzin in order for him to bring peace to the world but they failed, but hashi and tobirama are still stronger than hiruzin, many ppl say that hiruzin is stronger because he beat them while they were in edo mode..... lol no they were cornering hiruzin so bad that he had to do a kamikaze move on them taking himself and the them out at the same time and when they were in edo mode they were just mindless zombies they did not have the human instincts and human logic that keeps you alive, they just went in with out thinking
 

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lol nah I swear I read Iruka but it's gone O_O :lmao:
Hmm this post makes more sense then the original post <.<

It still talks about Iruka........ lmao. see again you didn't read.

Only thing that changed was "Anbu black ops " to "Anbu"
 

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So you say that because of Iruka's opinion that we believe Hiruzen is the strongest. Suggesting we should not believe this because it is his opinion.
Yet you go onto say we should believe Hashirama is the strongest because of Dan's opinion.

Hmm faq logic <.<

Look at the time periods they both lived in. Look at the rank difference; potential-Hokage compared to chuunin fodder.
 

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No clue what the hell you meant..... in your first sentence calling your self delusional and etc. but ok.

I base my facts on facts.

Fact: In the Leaf Hashirama and Tobirama are considered the best

Fact: Madara who has seen the first, the second, the third hokages .. says only the first is capable of stopping him.

What i stated is If he is the god of shinobi and "was said to be the strongest hokage".. why is he not hailed as the best. o_O Yet none of your people have answered my question.


" But you clearly ignore the ANBU who CLEARLY stated in the manga and the anime that Tobirama and Hashirama ARE HAILED as the best shinobi. " - The Original post...





truth doesn't belong to anyone... I made a thread to cancel the lie and bring out the truth.

What is this shit?

FACT: (insert comment here that starts out like its a quote then adds your own creative spin to it)


OH he fought the 3rd did he? when he was a kid? he met him? what exactly are you talking about here. oh yea and holy shit. there was a 4th hokage he never met.
 

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Why you hating on Hiruzen? Because he was good? sounds like it to me. Just get over the fact that he was one of the best and get on with your day please.
 

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i can honestly care less about the kages but to all the people that are saying hiruzen fodderized tobirama and Hashi, do you think that Hiruzen would fodderize Madara too?
 

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You hiruzen supporters call him the strongest Hokage. Because of what Iruka said.. and hell that wasn't even his opinion.. just something he heard. But you clearly ignore the ANBU who CLEARLY stated in the manga and the anime that Tobirama and Hashirama ARE HAILED as the best shinobi.

If Hiruzen the so called "strongest hokage" or "God of shinobi".. is all that, why is he not one of the best?? WHY?Please ANSWER.

And to say this over and over DAN ALREADY CUT OFF THE "Strongest Hokage and God of shinobi" statements off when he declared Hashirama to be stronger then Hiruzen. This is stupid.

NOWHERE IN THE MANGA IS IT WRITTIN THAT:

HIRUZEN IS THE STRONGEST HOKAGE...

It specifically states , "was said to be the strongest hokage".. NOT IS.

The anbu automatically put Tobirama and Hashirama above Minato and Hiruzen.

If you read the page where Iruka said Hiruzen was the strongest, you should also know what Hiruzen replied with. "Hey, Iruka!! Don't speak in past tense!!" Hiruzen himself stated he IS the strongest.
 

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If you read the page where Iruka said Hiruzen was the strongest, you should also know what Hiruzen replied with. "Hey, Iruka!! Don't speak in past tense!!" Hiruzen himself stated he IS the strongest.

So your gonna believe a old man.. who isn't even considered the best shinobi of his village?
 

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Dan just randomly saying Hiruzen could beat Madara would be completely random. Hiruzen's time in the manga is finished and he finished it well but defeating Edo Hashirama as well as his brother and sealing Orochimaru's arms. Pretty good feat for a 69 year old way past his prime. Hiruzen knew Hashirama and Tobirama personally. He has seen their techniques because they have both taught him. I'm pretty sure Hiruzen would know how to counter his own teachers. Moreover Hiruzen already admitted that he was once at some point the strongest Hokage. Iruka said he is the strongest Hokage to the Academy students. Hiruzen replied with "Hey, Iruka!! Don't use past tense!!" Hiruzen IMPLIED he that he was the strongest in his prime. Iruka is a teacher in the academy, he should be able to know the History well. Heres when Sarutobi implied that before he was the strongest.
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Dan just randomly saying Hiruzen could beat Madara would be completely random. Hiruzen's time in the manga is finished and he finished it well but defeating Edo Hashirama as well as his brother and sealing Orochimaru's arms. Pretty good feat for a 69 year old way past his prime. Hiruzen knew Hashirama and Tobirama personally. He has seen their techniques because they have both taught him. I'm pretty sure Hiruzen would know how to counter his own teachers. Moreover Hiruzen already admitted that he was once at some point the strongest Hokage. Iruka said he is the strongest Hokage to the Academy students. Hiruzen replied with "Hey, Iruka!! Don't use past tense!!" Hiruzen IMPLIED he that he was the strongest in his prime. Iruka is a teacher in the academy, he should be able to know the History well. Heres when Sarutobi implied that before he was the strongest.
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Dan: doesn't consider him the strongest Hokage

Anbu: Don't consider him the strongest Hokage..

WTH i'm suppose to believe a guy who considered himself the strongest Hokage at the age of 69? and did less then Onoki who is surpassed that age?
 

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Hey king,hiruzen defeated an immortal version of your favorite character and his retarded brother..come at me
 

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Hey king,hiruzen defeated an immortal version of your favorite character and his retarded brother..come at me

The word "defeated" requires a winner. ^_^. And also does not apply to when fighting against people who are being controlled.


My fav character and his Badass brother pawned your "God of shinobi" (Who is a insult to that name)... so bad that they made him commit suicide...

Come at me now?
 

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You hiruzen supporters call him the strongest Hokage. Because of what Iruka said.. and hell that wasn't even his opinion.. just something he heard. But you clearly ignore the ANBU who CLEARLY stated in the manga and the anime that Tobirama and Hashirama ARE HAILED as the best shinobi.

If Hiruzen the so called "strongest hokage" or "God of shinobi".. is all that, why is he not one of the best?? WHY?Please ANSWER.

And to say this over and over DAN ALREADY CUT OFF THE "Strongest Hokage and God of shinobi" statements off when he declared Hashirama to be stronger then Hiruzen. This is stupid.

NOWHERE IN THE MANGA IS IT WRITTIN THAT:

HIRUZEN IS THE STRONGEST HOKAGE...

It specifically states , "was said to be the strongest hokage".. NOT IS.

The anbu automatically put Tobirama and Hashirama above Minato and Hiruzen.

your right madara is up till this day
 
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