[Discussion] Ohnoki top ten?

[Ziba27]

A lot of people overlook this old man even though he carried the gokage and saved them twice, some even put "Prime Hiruzen" in top ten. As an old man with back problems he has been tanking left right and center he would have killed Sasuke without Obito's help, been fighting since day 1 of the war.

Recent feats in the war:
Destroyed Second Mizukage's giant clam.
Tanked a meteorite and survived a second one
Tanked Flower Tree World
Obliterated 25 Wood clones with complete susano'o

Imagine this dude in his prime.
I say he is the greatest of the current kages and most definitely >Hiruzen.
Onoki > EMS Sasuke, dealing with one susano'o wouldn't be much for him
Onoki > BM Naruto, Jinton vs Bijudama would be cool to see but jinton destroys at an atomic scale.
What do you think? Where is he in your list?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Even Muu is only top 12, Onoki is top 15-17. You are overrating him.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

After everything we have seen . No.

 

[Kyaun97]

I'd say he'd make it at least 10 on my list in teems of durability and power

 

[Shinato]

I highly doubt that he would defeat the current Sasuke, as he managed to take him down so easily the last time because Sasuke was tired from his fight with the other kages prior to meeting him. We also know that Ohnoki managed to destroy several weak Susano'os from Madara. They were and are a lot weaker than a full version.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Super large Jinton > Susano'o.

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

Muu > Ohnoki. Do the math.

 

[Shinato]

Super large Jinton > Susano'o.

Super large Jinto > Dead Ohnok. Or atleast so worn out that he cannot move. Jinto is also dodge able.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

i like Ohnoki, and Jinton [if landed] is extremely OP

i never made a top ten list, it would take too long, but dunno if he would make it

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Super large Jinto > Dead Ohnok. Or atleast so worn out that he cannot move. Jinto is also dodge able.

Not when it's hyped to be able to destroy an island.

 

[Shinato]

Not when it's hyped to be able to destroy an island.

Onoki isn't able to use that alone, he needed Tsunade to use it against Madara. The normal which he uses is the only thing he is able to do alone, unless he use all of his chakra in a single attack. Which would only leave him vulnerable for a counter attack.

 

[partha420]

Oh, no!!!!!

 

[Ziba27]

Even Muu is only top 12, Onoki is top 15-17. You are overrating him.

You think Muu is stronger than Onoki?

After everything we have seen . No.

Tanking meteorite and destroying 25 complete susano'os?

I'd say he'd make it at least 10 on my list in teems of durability and power

would like to know who's above him

I highly doubt that he would defeat the current Sasuke, as he managed to take him down so easily the last time because Sasuke was tired from his fight with the other kages prior to meeting him. We also know that Ohnoki managed to destroy several weak Susano'os from Madara. They were and are a lot weaker than a full version.

There's no evidence to even suggest they were weaker, they were fully developed and giant. What makes you say "They were and are a lot weaker than a full version."?

 

[Cursed Prince]

I dont think he can beat Sasuke but in his prime he probably could. Id love to see him in his prime

 

[Ziba27]

Onoki isn't able to use that alone, he needed Tsunade to use it against Madara. The normal which he uses is the only thing he is able to do alone, unless he use all of his chakra in a single attack. Which would only leave him vulnerable for a counter attack.

He had just said that he was running low on chakra and how can you say a person can't use his own jutsu on his own?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Onoki isn't able to use that alone, he needed Tsunade to use it against Madara. The normal which he uses is the only thing he is able to do alone, unless he use all of his chakra in a single attack. Which would only leave him vulnerable for a counter attack.

Not really considering he almost did it at the turtle island. Counter attack? What, when they're atomised? Sure.

 

[Onetimepost2]

Mu is 10-12 onoki is 13-16

 

[Beauty Busty Beast]

He had just said that he was running low on chakra and how can you say a person can't use his own jutsu on his own?

because tsunade has more and stronger chakra, don't forget that powerful chakra allows you to use more powerful jutsus.

 

[Shinato]

Y
There's no evidence to even suggest they were weaker, they were fully developed and giant. What makes you say "They were and are a lot weaker than a full version."?

I didn't really see any clones using the Perfect Susano'o or the Susano'o with four arms, they all used a smaller and weaker version of it. They were like giant statues with huge swords, that was all they had. Brute strength and decent defense.

 

[Shinato]

Not really considering he almost did it at the turtle island. Counter attack? What, when they're atomised? Sure.

Could you provide a manga panel of that? ( Or atleast the chapter number )

A person such as Sasuke has great speed, and can easily move over great distances. Madara was able to dodge it, and I highly doubt that Madara is any faster than Sasuke. ( Stronger, yes, smarter, perhaps, faster no. He may be equal in speed though )