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Who is the man behind the mask


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reason why tobi is not obito, how the F@#$ could obito have mastered his shringan....

i mean, #1 kakashi was not able to fight against madara, yet somehow obito was able to master his sharingan to be able to use time space jutsu to an extent that the 4th hokage would rate it to such a ranking as madara (which basically means GOD-like in the naruto world) so, i don'tthink so, and i think if he really wanted to get back at some(if it were obito, which it is not) he woldhave gone after his eye from kakashi.
 

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Re: reason why tobi is not obito, how the F@#$ could obito have mastered his shringan

wrong section

and indeed: ppl who think tobi is obito are stupid or kishi is just stupid
 

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I believe that the more logical explanation is that madara gave it to izuna, because in chapter 560, he (madara) states, "So that brat Nagato finally learned to use the Rinnengan." So i was like how or why does madara know about that, most likely he gave rinnegan to izuna. But heres another interesting that I have found in regards to the second hokage. Along with being randomly stated to knowing how to teleport, he is also the only other person besides orochimaru that knows how to do the impure world ressurection. (ht tp://orochimaru 09.files.wordpress. com/2010/07/19-20. jpg) i placed a space between press. and com so it would go through, but look in there. Apparently the second hokage was up to some pretty sneaky shit. Thats three things now, teleportation, Edo Tensei (iwr), and his naimg being tobirama ( masked man is tobi). Keep an open eye because i dont know what kishimoto's purpose behind incorporating the 2nd hokage so many times is for. I know for a god given fact that he is not tobi, but im still perplexed as to why he is mentioned so many times. Also here is pure evidence why izuna is tobi. In the link i sent, check out which of the two eyes, madara is taking from izuna. Coincidence that the left eye is being taken. I hope to think not. And if people are like why tobi have both sharingans when he fights konan, well if you look behind him when he is looking at danzo's body he has a whole storage house full of uchiha eyeballs, so yeh thats why. Probably why he got a new mask as well. If you find more evidence on tobirama's place in this manga, please alert me because i want to know as much as i can.
 

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But i mostly reside on madara because amateresa was planted on sasuke so it will activate when it sees madara uchiha and it actually did but tobi was able to cancel it.

Ahh but do not forget, people seem to belive that madara had taken both of izuna's eyes. (htt p://oro chimaru09. word press.com/20 10/07/21/tobi/
if you see that when he takes an eye it only shows him taking the right eye. Tobi's mask emphasizes on the left eye only. However i believe that madara took izuna's right eye and izuna took madara's right eye. Giving them the ems in at least one eye. emphasizing why tobi has an emphasis on the right side of his face, also answering why his amateresa was activated upon not uchiha madara, but his sharingan, which as i said was in the possession of izuna.
 

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I still believe that it is possible that Tobi can be Obito, Izuna, Kagami, shisui or a completely different charaqcter.

Kabuto does indicate that Tobi is a character, who is the assistant of Madara, which on the surface exludes Obito, since he wasn't born in Madara's time, but the Tobi character we know could simple be the succesor of Madara's original assistant. So the original apprentice of Madara, could simply have become the master of Obito.

For the the argument, that Tobi is to old to be obito, since he is a grown-up when he fights Minato(Yondaime). maybe obito was in whate we could call a different univers or dimension, where he would be able to train for 10 years, even though there would have passed a moment in real life. Cause no one of really knows all the possibleties of the time-space migration jutsu. If Obito did get an Uchiha master or mentor, then the mentor could have brought to a different dimension, where he could train and would grow older without time passing by in the real world.

I'm not saying That Tobi is Obito, I'm just saying that it is still possible that it could be Obito, since we have no idea what kind of powers exist in the naruto-univers.

I'm just saying not much can be completely confirmed or excluded yet, we will just have to wait and see what happens.
 
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Re: Another tobi theory

Welcome to the base, not a bad theory, i disagree that obito's Kagami's son. when obito was around, the uchiha clan massacre hadn't yet taken place so he could be any uchiha's son. + rep for effort
 

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Re: Another tobi theory

ok guy's I'm new around here so I don't know if someone already though about this, but anyway, please leave your thoughs :)

So I went almost over all Tobi theories around the forum and found some really interesting the most convincing is Tobi=Kagami.

We know that this guy was in Tobirama's team, with Hiruzen, Danzo, the 2 other elders and the Akimichi guy, we saw all of them later when the Kyubi attacked Konoha, we also saw that Danzo and the Uchiha were missing, we don't know if Kagami is already dead or if he(Tobi) worked along with Danzo and the Uchiha in oreder to attack Konoha.

I'm convinced that Madara, Kagami and Obito are all related. As we know Hiruzen was the student of the first and the second hokage, so I think that Kagami may be possibly Madara's son and not some kind of clone, hatred clone, genjutsu or Sasuke from the future crap. I beleive that Kagami being Madara's son may explain how the 2 men know each other and seems to work together, he carry the hatred of his father, he helped to murder the clan that betrayed his father, he claimed to be had his father's powers in sing of repect, he also said that he admired Hashirama and hated him beacause he defeated Madara, so the guy definitely knows Hashirama and Kagami was definitely around in Hashirama's era.

Maybe Kagami used the DNA of the zetsu to make his life longer which explains the use of izanagi and the white fluid. By being madara's son he may also took the Rinnegan when Madara died, then he put it in Nagato.

Then my theory of Obito being Kagami son! Asuma is about the same age as Kakashi and Kakashi the same age of Obito, so if Asuma was the son of Hiruzen maybe Obito is the son of Kagami, it perfectly make sense. So when obito was crushed by the boulder he took obito's eye and that may explain his space-time ninjutsu that looks a lot like Kakashi.

This may also explain why he said to Kakashi "I'll deal with you latter" he maybe what to take revenge on his son.
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That pretty much it, if I missing something please tell me nd if I'm wrong please say it, leave comments.;)
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Re: Another tobi theory

Welcome to the base, not a bad theory, i disagree that obito's Kagami's son. when obito was around, the uchiha clan massacre hadn't yet taken place so he could be any uchiha's son. + rep for effort
yeah, I know that Obito can be the son of any of the Uchiha, but being tobi=kagami son may explain why tobi has this space-time ninjutsu just like kakashi and also explain why Tobi said to kakashi that he will deal wwith him latter.

off course it could be somebody else with obito's eye i'm just trying here:shrug:
 
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