[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Volcmike]

Re: Tobi is who he wants to be

you need MS to do space time ninjutsu. so i guess he does have it.

 

[This is my username]

Re: Tobi is who he wants to be

you need MS to do space time ninjutsu. so i guess he does have it.

that's why I think he has Madara's eyes.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

Re: Tobi is who he wants to be

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Please.No more Tobi theorys.

 

[Nara..]

Re: Tobi is who he wants to be

Your theory is 100% sure, + rep

 

[This is my username]

Re: Tobi is who he wants to be

Your theory is 100% sure, + rep

thanks!

 

[Avani]

Re: Obito is not Tobi!!!!

Whoever Tobi is he went behind the dead Madara's back and had probable dropped the idea to revive him.


Hmm ... May be his son. Or maybe just may be Kagami

 

[UzUmAkiiClaN]

So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

Ok as we all saw on chapter 559. Kabuto revived the "REAL MADARA" rite?

In order to do so, Madara had to already been death,

But after the Sasuke and Itachi's fight (can't recall what chapter it is) WE ALL SAW WHEN MARADA TOOK

OFF HIS MASK, yes he did look beat up and a bit old too..

so what's going on? Any theory about how this happened?

i think we deserve an explanation :no_ignore:
THANK U

 

[PositiveEmotions]

is either kagami, shishui, izuna, and obito one of them

 

[CeeJay.]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

Please try to prevent posting threads when there are hundreds of the same subject threads.

 

[This is my username]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

see my signature for your answer

 

[SKTupac]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

OMG not again, another month of tobi spam!!!

 

[Scotch]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

youv'e just asked for an infraction

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

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Theres already a thread with the same topic. Search it.

 

[This is my username]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

OMG not again, another month of tobi spam!!!

week, until it is revealed

 

[Avani]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

Ok as we all saw on chapter 559. Kabuto revived the "REAL MADARA" rite?

In order to do so, Madara had to already been death,

But after the Sasuke and Itachi's fight (can't recall what chapter it is) WE ALL SAW WHEN MARADA TOOK

OFF HIS MASK, yes he did look beat up and a bit old too..

so what's going on? Any theory about how this happened?

i think we deserve an explanation :no_ignore:
THANK U

A woman who knows that transformation jutsu or whatever. :| ​

 

[rasenshintan]

Re: So Who's the Man Behind the Mask? Madara Or?

i think that its danzou

 

[wadifak]

Re: Tobi is not Madara. Period.

Madara is Tobi. Tobi is Madara.

I don't understand why everyone cannot realize that the eye being shown and zoomed in to where the tomoes are pushed to the edge is the FOXES EYES. The reason the PUPIL is EXPANDING and the TOMOES are being pushed is to SHOW CONTROL OF THE FOX.
The eye zooming in is the Foxes LEFT EYE. The eye we see Madara use is his RIGHT EYE. LOOK AT THE ANGLES THE EYES ARE SHAPED.

haha see chapter 559

 

[wadifak]

Re: Tobi is not Madara. Period.

And its different from Madaras sharingan. Which means Tobi is not Madara. Period. U guys will see, ill put a million dollars on it.

you were right man
they should apologize to you

 

[GermanViet]

TOBI = OBITO​

1. Tobi's figure resembles Obito. His hair and his prior mask (eye positioning)
   A fanmade picture:
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   We know Kakashi took Obito's left eye.. Tobi's prior mask.. --> one hole on the other side of Tobi's mask
   
   
2. Tobi (トビ) and Obito Uchiha (うちは オ ビト)
   The Uchiha clan (うちは一族)
   
   So To-bi (ト ビ) and obi-To (ビ ト)
   Japanese and English name are resembling each other..
   Obito --> obi To --> To obi --> Tobi
   
   Ergo: Kishi did it on purpose..
   
   
3. His behaviour: Tobi's behaviour is childish (Obito) and dead serious..
   
   
4. Kishi's interview revealing Kakashi is going to take a major position in the ninja war.. (It is not faked I believe.. and sry I can't find the source.. You can ignore this argumentation point!)
   
   Question which will come up: How does Kakashi really gained his MS? Did Tobi "helped" so both would awaken their MS since they are sharing a pair of Sharingan!
   --> see 6.
   
   
5. The other speculation who Tobi is, doesn't make sense..
   

   Tobirama: He's dead because he was summonable with Edo Tensei
   
   Mardara: Mardara is being summoned.. And you need his soul in order to do so.. Which is not possible if Mardara is still living..
   
   Mardara's brother Izuna: Mardara took his eyes.. So Tobi should be blind.. (Don't come with the argument: "But Itachi (summoned) isn't blind". ITACHI IS BEING SUMMONED!
   
   Shisui: Officially killed by Itachi, one of his eye taken by Danzo later crushed, the other one Itachi got (crow + Shisui's eye --> Naruto's mouth) later destroyed with Amaterasu.. --> If Tobi = Shisui he has to be blind..

6. The ULTIMATE proof:
   Tobi's jutsu is time-space ninjutsu
   Kakashi's MS jutsu is Kumui which is also a time-space ninjutsu
   --> Obito's true skill

Now discuss... I stated my view and I'm gonna stick with it..
(Unlike those ppl who say "Yes Tobi is most likly Mardara" and on the other thread "Yes Tobi is Mardara's brother.. It makes sense" and later they say: "I KNEW IT!! I SAID TOBI = ???")

When the information is out who Tobi really is you can laugh at me.. If I'm wrong.. :hypertobi:

I'm 100% sure that Tobi's body = Obito's body.. and also Tobi's eyes = Obito's eyes..
My speculation are Obito's soul = Tobi's soul.. And the question is: "WHY did he become so 'evil'?"

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

@Naruto vs Goku: good points, but Fukaku(not Fugaku lol) does have a chance of being the masked Tobi. About your nobody having enough knowledge argument, well Tobi speaks of even the Sage of the 6 paths, his 2 sons and all that happened between them, which was waaaay before Madara's time......so even if Tobi=Madara, how does Madara even know all this? By having MS? Its just as likely that Fukaku activated it too by killing off a close relative and then read it off the uchiha tablets, which is what Madara would also have to do too.
But more importantly, Tobi has space time, and its not known if the original Madara did. Hashirama never used space time, but the 2nd and the 4th hokage's did. Any uchiha with sharingan can copy techniques perfectly, and can even work to improve them, but they have to see the tech in action first.
Madara did'nt have the opportunity to do that as probably no one in his time used time space nin techs. But Fukasaku probably grew up hearing of the exploits of the 2nd hokage and minato and might have seen them in action and copied their abilities and improved them, just like first Oro and then Kabuto copied the 2nd's IWR jutsu. It might be a stretch, but then how do you explain Tobi having space time...?

@ BarBoBot: You're missing one very critical point. How does the real Madara now know of Nagato...?Nagato, who was a child of about age 6 or so during the 3rd great ninja war, when the 3rd was hokage and it had been ages since the valley of the end battle. Madara wore the same clothes as he did when he fought the 1st when he was ressurrected, so this leads to an inescapable conclusion:
Although it may very well be that Tobi and Madara are 2 distinct beings, they are almost certainly connected, and its possible they may have had some form of communication, perhaps like how Minato communicated with Naruto.
What do you 2 think?

I'm not saying Fugaku never had ms, but I highly doubt he would have. Sasuke asked Fugaku about ms and it seemed as though Fugaku was ashamed of the technique. It's a forbidden jutsu if I'm not mistaken right? For the fact that you'd have to sacrifice a close one to gain it.

But I'm not basing Madara having the knowledge because of ms. Madara had the knowledge he had because of ems and rinnegan. We can speculate who had ms and not but not hard to deny Madara was the 1st and most likely only to had ems, he read the Uchiha stuff with ems and learned all about sage. Somehow he also had rinnegan and this is possible to the fact edo Madara mentions Nagato and evidently knew of his eye powers.

Cyborg the sharingan can't copy every jutsu. Kekkai genkais for example and I doubt even complicated jutsus. Not everyone would be able to copy Minato or tobirama cuz their space time are complicated. Maybe not 2nd but Minato for sure since you would née to know the specific sealing jutsu.

Also you forget that Madara and tobirama lived during te same time. If Madara was able to copy space time it is surely possible that he copied it from tobirama since thy lived during the same time periods.

But that's all assuming Madara had to copy space time. Why do you assume that? Tobis space time is based off the power of his sharingan obviously. It's a power of his own and I highly doubt he copied it from anybody. And who's to say Madara didn't have this jutsu long ago, or Tobi Madara developed it over the years. There's no telling. That's why I didn't even touch the matter of Tobi space time because it proves nothing and disproves nothing. There's way to many reasons why or how Tobi can use space time and none of these reasons can be strongly supported. But I don't think it's much importance compared to the identity of Tobi.