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Who is the man behind the mask


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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

maybe its SON GOKOU..... \m/

il vote for Madara's Brother........ dnt knw the name.... lol.....[/QUOTE


:D hehehehe il vote for that one too... its the closest tread to me
 

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Re: If Tobi is Izuna

i was really touched when tobi said , "no izuna gave me his eyes for the sake of the clan" it felt like he was really hurt by how they talked about madara U_U
I know and why would another Uchiha do that ( am refering to the theory that Tobi is Kagami Uhciha) it would make sense that Izuna cared about his brother and feared him somewhat.
lol y cant we just wait to figure it out we will obviously soon since its now know that the real madara has been edo'ed

It's fun to speculate my good man it's part of the thrill of the manga :D
 

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Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

Ok so my theory is simply Tobi is still Madara.

How?

Kyuubi had Yin Yang split in half for its soul.

Zetsu = Yin/Yang I believe each with different but very powerful abilities.
Yin Zetsu can only take the Yin portion of someones soul, possibly when he "eats" them. I have a theory That W/Zetsu steals powers and B/Zetsu can use them but instead of with Madara he just reanimated him.

Basically after the 1st vs Madara fight Madara was barely alive and Zetsu saved him by making a clone and Madara either posessing it using an uncomplete form of Izanagi or Zetsu taking his soul and implanting it within the clone.

Madara has a Zetsu body?



I believe he does from these pics. And that is why he can easily disregard his limbs.

So what happens now?


Well my theory is that Madara's plan with Nagato were to summon and complete himself and merge his soul together again. But then Nagato went and died. And I also find this quote quite interesting.



So now "Tobi" will have to join the fight to save his soul lmao. That's what I think will happen.

Or more likely Kabuto has just done this as part of a plan and will later just withdraw Madara for use later.

I believe Naruto will defeat Madara with help from the Kyuubi also. The Kyuubi has been controlled by Madara before and the Kyuubi being "all powerful" probably didn't like being someones pawn so I believe he will break Gen for him at one point and give him advice on how Hashirama beat him.


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Re: Yeahhhhhh, I was right!

lol most people thought that way
 
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Re: tobi is uchiha shisui!!!

Shisue is very dead or very blind. Either way not right age, no motives and I doubt he would suddenly know space time

shisui is known as shisui of the body flicker... so i want to say that he is using space time jutsu and the other peoples thought that he is using body flicker....so they underestimate shisui abilities...
 

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Re: Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

lol way to many theories out there now
 

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Re: Yeahhhhhh, I was right!

Tobi is not Madara, guys, what did I say?

The only thing that has been proven is who the 6th coffin was. Doesn't dissprove that Tobi isn't still Madara. Just made my theory on it updated from last year.
 

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Re: If Tobi is Izuna

I know and why would another Uchiha do that ( am refering to the theory that Tobi is Kagami Uhciha) it would make sense that Izuna cared about his brother and feared him somewhat.


It's fun to speculate my good man it's part of the thrill of the manga :D

i don't think he feared him , he feared that the shinobi alliance would know that he is not madara too soon , and the look of his face was similar to the one the 1st gave oro when he revived his sensei's so it might not be fear at all , and he also told him he wanted the body , if he was afraid of madara why would he be asking kabuto favors shouldn't he just run away .
 

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Madara is Tobi----Typhon Uchiha's "split" theory

Heres MY complete split theorum

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

Tobi was created by madara on his deathbed to gain the abilities of both paths, look at this:
.

Once he had gained both sharingan and rinnegan into a single body he would be able to use izanagi which can turn reality into an illusion and illusions into reality. But he no longer has his EMS powers, which is why Nagato was given the rinnegan, to resurrect Madara and combine EMS with Izanagi.

This is where it gets interesting if you read ,
you see that madara wants to use his EMS genjutsu, that itachi talks about when vsing sasuke. His genjutsu is infinite tsukiyomi, if you know what tsukiyomi does you know that you control space and time, this means you are a god in this genjutsu controlling everything in this realm, by reflecting it off of the moon he would be casting a genjutsu upon every one in the ninja world. Once combined with Tobi and Izanagi his infinite tsukiyomi could be taken to the next level.... it would not only be a genjutsu in the mind of the person, if he used izanagi with infinite tsukiyomi it would turn the illusion of Madara/Tobi being a god into reality. He would have total control of the entire world.

Madara is Tobi and his plan to rule the world has been accumulating since the time when Konohagakure was being created.

I also had a thought that tobi may in actual fact have known that Kabuto could use edo tensdei, he may have known because zetsu is a master spy, who knows what he tells tobi and therefore had edo tensei as his backup.

If he did know that Kabuto could potentially resurrect the body of madara, but that it would be under Kabutos control would give him reason to find a way to gain control of it... Thus tobis fascination with Shisuis infamous Kotoamatsukami.

If you see any flaws in this hit me up. EPIC !
 

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Re: Madara is Tobi----Typhon Uchiha's "split" theory

lol more theories? not one is more than another since we still dont really know how madara knows nagato
 

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Re: Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

lol way to many theories out there now

Thanks for the useless fckn comment. please feel free to stfu next time unless you actually read the theory and have an opinion.
 

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Re: The Giant Tobi Discussion Thread

Heres MY complete split theorum

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

Tobi was created by madara on his deathbed to gain the abilities of both paths, look at this:
.

Once he had gained both sharingan and rinnegan into a single body he would be able to use izanagi which can turn reality into an illusion and illusions into reality. But he no longer has his EMS powers, which is why Nagato was given the rinnegan, to resurrect Madara and combine EMS with Izanagi.

This is where it gets interesting if you read ,
you see that madara wants to use his EMS genjutsu, that itachi talks about when vsing sasuke. His genjutsu is infinite tsukiyomi, if you know what tsukiyomi does you know that you control space and time, this means you are a god in this genjutsu controlling everything in this realm, by reflecting it off of the moon he would be casting a genjutsu upon every one in the ninja world. Once combined with Tobi and Izanagi his infinite tsukiyomi could be taken to the next level.... it would not only be a genjutsu in the mind of the person, if he used izanagi with infinite tsukiyomi it would turn the illusion of Madara/Tobi being a god into reality. He would have total control of the entire world.

Madara is Tobi and his plan to rule the world has been accumulating since the time when Konohagakure was being created.

I also had a thought that tobi may in actual fact have known that Kabuto could use edo tensdei, he may have known because zetsu is a master spy, who knows what he tells tobi and therefore had edo tensei as his backup.

If he did know that Kabuto could potentially resurrect the body of madara, but that it would be under Kabutos control would give him reason to find a way to gain control of it... Thus tobis fascination with Shisuis infamous Kotoamatsukami.

If you see any flaws in this hit me up. EPIC !
 

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Re: The possibly connections of Kagami Uchiha.

your kinda right when we first saw kagamy uchiha in de manga i made a thread and said i think he is the 1 behind the mask and now i'm thinking that i could be true!

I Don't really see any other reason for why he would be introduced. It showed he was the same age as the third and danzo, Every generation has had an uchiha that has caused troubled, Kagami was there's.
 

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Re: Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

To be honest. . . awesome theory. :)
Really liked the Kyuubi part and it really could hapen like you said.
 

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Re: Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

Thanks for the useless fckn comment. please feel free to stfu next time unless you actually read the theory and have an opinion.

lol damn man way to be hella angry for no odd reason. Have you also not seen the thousands of 'theory' threads today????? So instead of remaking threads that have already been made you can stfu lol lol lol
 

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Re: Stop making theories plz.

It generates activity. It keeps Mods busy too.
Plus its good comedy as well

Yeah i know it creates comedy :D and keeps NB busy which is great but 80% post about tobi was just getting annoying...
 

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Madara is Tobi----Typhon Uchiha's "split" theory

Heres MY complete split theorum

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

Tobi was created by madara on his deathbed to gain the abilities of both paths, look at this:
.

Once he had gained both sharingan and rinnegan into a single body he would be able to use izanagi which can turn reality into an illusion and illusions into reality. But he no longer has his EMS powers, which is why Nagato was given the rinnegan, to resurrect Madara and combine EMS with Izanagi.

This is where it gets interesting if you read ,
you see that madara wants to use his EMS genjutsu, that itachi talks about when vsing sasuke. His genjutsu is infinite tsukiyomi, if you know what tsukiyomi does you know that you control space and time, this means you are a god in this genjutsu controlling everything in this realm, by reflecting it off of the moon he would be casting a genjutsu upon every one in the ninja world. Once combined with Tobi and Izanagi his infinite tsukiyomi could be taken to the next level.... it would not only be a genjutsu in the mind of the person, if he used izanagi with infinite tsukiyomi it would turn the illusion of Madara/Tobi being a god into reality. He would have total control of the entire world.

Madara is Tobi and his plan to rule the world has been accumulating since the time when Konohagakure was being created.

I also had a thought that tobi may in actual fact have known that Kabuto could use edo tensdei, he may have known because zetsu is a master spy, who knows what he tells tobi and therefore had edo tensei as his backup.

If he did know that Kabuto could potentially resurrect the body of madara, but that it would be under Kabutos control would give him reason to find a way to gain control of it... Thus tobis fascination with Shisuis infamous Kotoamatsukami.

If you see any flaws in this hit me up. EPIC !
 

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Re: Hammys super theory: Who is Tobi?

lol damn man way to be hella angry for no odd reason. Have you also not seen the thousands of 'theory' threads today????? So instead of remaking threads that have already been made you can stfu lol lol lol

He isn't remaking anything - He is posting his own thoughts.
And this was probably one of the best theory's I saw yet, so little fries like you can just walk away. . . why even comment - Just don't read it.
 
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