[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread
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Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
But more importantly, Tobi has space time, and its not known if the original Madara did. Hashirama never used space time, but the 2nd and the 4th hokage's did. Any uchiha with sharingan can copy techniques perfectly, and can even work to improve them, but they have to see the tech in action first.
Madara did'nt have the opportunity to do that as probably no one in his time used time space nin techs. But Fukasaku probably grew up hearing of the exploits of the 2nd hokage and minato and might have seen them in action and copied their abilities and improved them, just like first Oro and then Kabuto copied the 2nd's IWR jutsu. It might be a stretch, but then how do you explain Tobi having space time...?
@ BarBoBot: You're missing one very critical point. How does the real Madara now know of Nagato...?Nagato, who was a child of about age 6 or so during the 3rd great ninja war, when the 3rd was hokage and it had been ages since the valley of the end battle. Madara wore the same clothes as he did when he fought the 1st when he was ressurrected, so this leads to an inescapable conclusion:
Although it may very well be that Tobi and Madara are 2 distinct beings, they are almost certainly connected, and its possible they may have had some form of communication, perhaps like how Minato communicated with Naruto.
What do you 2 think?
@Naruto vs Goku: good points, but Fukaku(not Fugaku lol) does have a chance of being the masked Tobi. About your nobody having enough knowledge argument, well Tobi speaks of even the Sage of the 6 paths, his 2 sons and all that happened between them, which was waaaay before Madara's time......so even if Tobi=Madara, how does Madara even know all this? By having MS? Its just as likely that Fukaku activated it too by killing off a close relative and then read it off the uchiha tablets, which is what Madara would also have to do too.
But more importantly, Tobi has space time, and its not known if the original Madara did. Hashirama never used space time, but the 2nd and the 4th hokage's did. Any uchiha with sharingan can copy techniques perfectly, and can even work to improve them, but they have to see the tech in action first.
Madara did'nt have the opportunity to do that as probably no one in his time used time space nin techs. But Fukasaku probably grew up hearing of the exploits of the 2nd hokage and minato and might have seen them in action and copied their abilities and improved them, just like first Oro and then Kabuto copied the 2nd's IWR jutsu. It might be a stretch, but then how do you explain Tobi having space time...?
@ BarBoBot: You're missing one very critical point. How does the real Madara now know of Nagato...?Nagato, who was a child of about age 6 or so during the 3rd great ninja war, when the 3rd was hokage and it had been ages since the valley of the end battle. Madara wore the same clothes as he did when he fought the 1st when he was ressurrected, so this leads to an inescapable conclusion:
Although it may very well be that Tobi and Madara are 2 distinct beings, they are almost certainly connected, and its possible they may have had some form of communication, perhaps like how Minato communicated with Naruto.
What do you 2 think?
SonicRainboom
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Re: manga section clean up?
lol but yah I feel the same way. Just take away all threads thats been put up the past month I say.
SPOILER!!! who is behind the mask?
hello everyone,
there must me tons of these threads now but still i want to make 1:lili:
The person behind the mask is kagamy uchiha that's the guy who was in the team with the second hokage the future third hokage and danzo enz.
If you are thinking why would he be in it? well i made a similair thread like this one few month's back but let me explain once more!
Why would kishi put a uchiha in the group when danzo got a flash back that guy didn't had any lines! en you saw that he had a sharingan and he new alot about danzo! and if we learnd anything about naruto it's that if you something that doesnt click in the scene it will come back eventually and it will be explaind like the gift from itachi to naruto!
So it's pretty obvious that kagamy uchiha told every body he was madara because he wanted to be recognized by every body and how better to do that with the name that feared every body MADARA UCHIHA!
hope you guys liked it! Questions ? just ask me or the forum here below!
hello everyone,
there must me tons of these threads now but still i want to make 1:lili:
The person behind the mask is kagamy uchiha that's the guy who was in the team with the second hokage the future third hokage and danzo enz.
If you are thinking why would he be in it? well i made a similair thread like this one few month's back but let me explain once more!
Why would kishi put a uchiha in the group when danzo got a flash back that guy didn't had any lines! en you saw that he had a sharingan and he new alot about danzo! and if we learnd anything about naruto it's that if you something that doesnt click in the scene it will come back eventually and it will be explaind like the gift from itachi to naruto!
So it's pretty obvious that kagamy uchiha told every body he was madara because he wanted to be recognized by every body and how better to do that with the name that feared every body MADARA UCHIHA!
hope you guys liked it! Questions ? just ask me or the forum here below!
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mastersmike
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Re: SPOILER!!! who is behind the mask?
lol dude have u not read the thousand previous to this?
lol dude have u not read the thousand previous to this?
namikazenaruto16
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Re: its so6p
It can't be SO6P beacuse he is collecting all this eye power, if it was him he would already have all of these. it's an Uchiha in my opinion
It can't be SO6P beacuse he is collecting all this eye power, if it was him he would already have all of these. it's an Uchiha in my opinion
Honest Criminal
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BelievesItsNotButter
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Re: Why The F*** do people think that tobi is obito
To be honest, the only hole in the Obito theory is that it is not known if he has a brother to take an eye from and receive EMS and Tobi needs EMS to complete his plan. It is however possible That his intent originally was to provide Sauske with an EMS and obtain Shishui's eye that was in possession of Danzo to control him into doing the Mooneye Plan. At least until it was destroyed anyways. Otherwise it all makes sense.
the fact is:
Tobi's eye has the same ability as Kakashi's
Until he implanted a rinnengan his only visible eye was his right which would make sense sine Obito gave Kakashi his left
Tobi and Obito are almost anigrams
They have the same hair
Its possible the whole dying and having his eye crushed by a rock was a genjutsu to fake his on death
It is a very viable option despite its unpopularity when people mention the possibility. Its really the simplest answer as to who he really is and it fits. I don't want it to be the case because of its simplicity.
(possible spoiler)
I would much prefer tobi to be a creation from an Izangi prodoced by Madara himself. This would make sense since he could have instructed Tobi to give Nagato the Rinnengan and instruct him to revive Madara. This is why he would have pointed out Nagato's growth upon his resurrection and surprise that is was the world resurrection that brought him back
To be honest, the only hole in the Obito theory is that it is not known if he has a brother to take an eye from and receive EMS and Tobi needs EMS to complete his plan. It is however possible That his intent originally was to provide Sauske with an EMS and obtain Shishui's eye that was in possession of Danzo to control him into doing the Mooneye Plan. At least until it was destroyed anyways. Otherwise it all makes sense.
the fact is:
Tobi's eye has the same ability as Kakashi's
Until he implanted a rinnengan his only visible eye was his right which would make sense sine Obito gave Kakashi his left
Tobi and Obito are almost anigrams
They have the same hair
Its possible the whole dying and having his eye crushed by a rock was a genjutsu to fake his on death
It is a very viable option despite its unpopularity when people mention the possibility. Its really the simplest answer as to who he really is and it fits. I don't want it to be the case because of its simplicity.
(possible spoiler)
I would much prefer tobi to be a creation from an Izangi prodoced by Madara himself. This would make sense since he could have instructed Tobi to give Nagato the Rinnengan and instruct him to revive Madara. This is why he would have pointed out Nagato's growth upon his resurrection and surprise that is was the world resurrection that brought him back
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chike22trans
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Re: The possibly connections of Kagami Uchiha.
you are kinda right but the fact here is that i have no clue who Kagami Uchiha is So please any link to the page on the manga where he was first seen?
you are kinda right but the fact here is that i have no clue who Kagami Uchiha is So please any link to the page on the manga where he was first seen?
Sliding Ghost
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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right
I want to elaborate/refine on what I said earlier.
Suppose Madara was sealed the night he helped Itachi? We know that Nagato was sealed by Itachi. Madara mentions Nagato. Itachi seemed to know about Tobi Madara and he didn't want Sasuke to see him.
I'm willing to bet that the answer is in Itachi's words that he said to Sasuke when they had their final fight.
I want to elaborate/refine on what I said earlier.
Suppose Madara was sealed the night he helped Itachi? We know that Nagato was sealed by Itachi. Madara mentions Nagato. Itachi seemed to know about Tobi Madara and he didn't want Sasuke to see him.
I'm willing to bet that the answer is in Itachi's words that he said to Sasuke when they had their final fight.
NamkazeNaruto
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Re: who is madara behind that mask?
NOTICE THE SIMILARITIES ?
ignore tobi in the background in the 1st pic
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If Tobi is Izuna
Why did he masquerade has Madara?, what benefit would he have by claiming to be Madara then his own. Am sure he was somewhat famous back in his day especially since he was said to be equal to Madara in every way
Why did he masquerade has Madara?, what benefit would he have by claiming to be Madara then his own. Am sure he was somewhat famous back in his day especially since he was said to be equal to Madara in every way
Re: If Tobi is Izuna
he wanted to restore his brothers pride by making everyone think that he didn't really lose to the first
and that's why he was really touched when he said that madara didn't take izuna's eyes by force
i assume the only two people that would be that touched are madara and izuna
he wanted to restore his brothers pride by making everyone think that he didn't really lose to the first
and that's why he was really touched when he said that madara didn't take izuna's eyes by force
i assume the only two people that would be that touched are madara and izuna
mastersmike
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Re: If Tobi is Izuna
lol y cant we just wait to figure it out we will obviously soon since its now know that the real madara has been edo'ed
lol y cant we just wait to figure it out we will obviously soon since its now know that the real madara has been edo'ed
Re: If Tobi is Izuna
i was really touched when tobi said , "no izuna gave me his eyes for the sake of the clan" it felt like he was really hurt by how they talked about madara U_Uhahaha so Tobi is a good boy after all
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