[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Rorschach]

Re: Tobi is a Zetsu Clone

its Izuna, check my theory for proof

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[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Re: Tobi is a Zetsu Clone

I agree.

I wonder what vessel Tobi would then be planning to use for Madara's soul? Would Tobi use his own body? Does Tobi have a soul and who's soul is it? Or is that why Tobi has been keeping Sasuke around and developing his powers? To use Sasuke's body as a new vessel for Madara's soul, perhaps?

 

[Blade95]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

It was mentioned that Madara was the only Uchiha capable of controlling the Kyubi , if all that is needed is a sharingan , then why couldn't a talented Uchiha like Itachi control the Kyubi like Madara .

Where did it say that? And maybe every talented uchiha didnt control the fox is because no one could release him from the Jinchuuriki!!! Mito and Kushina were the two Jinchuurikis

 

[kisamexRocks]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

No worries lol it's possibly his soul or something lol i don't know something stupid lol.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Re: "Tobi/Madara/Man Behind the Mask" threads

yea i dont know who banned what but i dont know that guy so he can eat it.

but your right i made one to and goku would end naruto with out going super sayian lol

aorry double but love your sig

Lol yea goku would win but my name more or less means which show is my favorite just as much as which character is stronger

And thanks on the sig compliment!

We are discussing the chapter here in the manga section which luckily revolves around Madara, so I see no problem in making these threads if it's about the content of this weak's chapter.

Besides how will you stop 1500+ people from posting threads about Madara

You missed the point over defensive noob.

All I'm saying is that instead of making these threads and fill the 1st page with Tobi threads, and push back other good threads, we can all comment on the thread scarface made at the top of the page.

And I can stop 1500+ threads. Believe it. Kage bunshi no jutsu!

I say it´s saskes father!

Fugaku is dead.
He loved his clan so he wouldn't kill them.
He loved his wife so he wouldn't kill her.
He didnt like the path and attitude Itachi had prior the massacre.
Itachi said he conspired with Madara, not Fugaku.

Shisui Uchiha
(Don't burn me for the theory O_O )

1. Powerful Genjutsu user, able to control the 4th Mizukage and the 9 Tailed Fox Easily.
2. Known for his teleportation jutsu though this may just be a "body flicker" which means its just high speed that appears like teleportation…
3. He is not been able to be summoned, his body was never found… O_O

Alright here is my backstory:

Shuishi was the Uchiha's old Itachi before Itachi was the double agent… He was older then Itachi and tasked with the attack on Konoha by the 9 Tailed Fox. This would explain the Uchiha's lack of arrival and them seeming to "know" when it would happen… This though was done forcefully so Shuishi began to regret his decition and with the help of Danzou worked to eliminate the Uchiha sort of how Itachi did… Giving up his eye to protect Itachi and being able to help Itachi with the massacre as "Tobi" this would explain how "Tobi" knew what was happening behind the door of Konoha…

Gaining new eyes from the massacre and since he was working 'with' Danzou he was able to aquire them and give them to Danzou… This link runs deeper and I believe it includes Orochimaru, since both Danzou and Tobi seem to be made of the same substance…

Tobi could easily help Kabuto revive Shuishi and pull a Sage of 6 Tobi's and instead of one of the Jinchuriki he would use him as a path? Plus his eyes would then be usable etc. So why not give that DNA? Maybe because even with it Shuishi isn't alive thus cannot be revived…

That is sort of my theory for now @___@

Shisui body was found dead on the bottom of a waterfall.
It's safe to assume that shisui and Itachi were the same age, if not roughly around give or take 3-5 years.
Shisui loved his clan and loved the village.
Itachi said that he killed shisui and conspired with Madara.


If you had to ask me my best bet is that Tobi is still Madara. Despite Madara just having been revived by edo tensi. Tobi had knowledge that nobody else but Madara would have.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

Where did it say that? And maybe every talented uchiha didnt control the fox is because no one could release him from the Jinchuuriki!!! Mito and Kushina were the two Jinchuurikis

Like I said earlier , Danzo said that in the summit , he mentioned the people who could tame bijus , Madara was the only Uchiha mentioned.

 

[Bryntone]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Pretty much agreed i am also turning towards this since it is the only theory that would explain how madara knew Nagato...

I think it was his plan to die sometime late and be revived by nagato or something like that thus what he said the moment he was revived...
But would still not explain his exact words...
"Little brat nagato finally grows??"

What i find intriguing here is that this tobi guy knew that kushina was giving birth that night when it was to be a pretty top secret event known only to hiruzen and minato and hiruzen's wife along with a select few people...
How come tobi a guy who is not part of the village just happens to come across this secret place???
Seems highly unlikely....

I think madara had been Summoned by the Rinne Tensei previously but couldn't maintain the summon because wasn't strong enough, thats how he's aware of Nagato.

Which would explain the comment of Nagato growing.

 

[Brucewen001]

Re: This bastard tobi has messed up our theories...

I love tobi even more now, everybody bought the story, he would be a great salesman.

hehehe, that's true.

 

[ReLax -]

Re: Unbelievable

Based on Tobi saying Nagato's revival tech was supposed ot be used on him, and Madara saying it finally happened, nagato managed to grow, it sounds like Tobi is some split version of Madara and Madara was depending on Nagato to revive him

It's possible, but Madara is an edo, so it's clear that he's dead, but than again the same with the Kyuubi one half is sealed and other is in Naruto, so the possibility for that is still available. I think Kishi will throw something in this and next chapter Madara may speak of this Tobi.

 

[Nefertari Vivi]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

i think its Izuna but izuna is so cute and awesome he shouldn't be the evil :T_T:

 

[BarBoBot]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

He took on madaras identity because he was the strongest uchiha in history, and the mention of Madaras name even after all that time still instills fear in people.

It's part of his mind game. The same as why he told the Kages of his moon eye plan. He intended to intimidate them.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

It was mentioned that Madara was the only Uchiha capable of controlling the Kyubi , if all that is needed is a sharingan , then why couldn't a talented Uchiha like Itachi control the Kyubi like Madara .

Who said he couldnt? He just never would've had a reason to use it. Itachi was a man of peace, right?

No, you were right about Mangekyou Sharingan :

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And yes, you do need Hashiramas cells if you want to control kyuubi without Mangekyou Sharingan

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Oh, so I was right. And so were you xd

 

[Anduril]

Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

I think madara had been Summoned by the Rinne Tensei previously but couldn't maintain the summon because wasn't strong enough, thats how he's aware of Nagato.

Which would explain the comment of Nagato growing.

So you propose that Tobi tried using Nagato to summon madara with rinne tensie before but failed....and thats when madara knows about nagato...

But would that not in turn imply that nagato knew tobi was not madara uchiha??

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: Tobi is not Madara, we were fooled.

So ?

 

[warlee]

both are madara

Both of them are madara,tobi plan on using rinne tensei to revive the real 1,while the real 1 is summond he tought tobi has carried out the plan. Remember when tobi talk to zetsu about how naruto has put a dent on his plan by changing nagato's mind. But how does the real madara met nagato? Meaning he didn't die at vote collecting shodai cell and creating zetsu but suffers damage in the process so i think he drafted his plan and left tobi which is part of him to complete it.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

Normal Sharingan genjutsu + Hashirama DNA/cells

 

[OWanime]

Re: Tobi is a Zetsu Clone

tobi is obviously a physical zetsu clone clone who has taking some of madara's strong chakra and has become him and he's wearing the mask so that people won't notice when is face turns from madara's to zesu's over and over (everytime he gets hit, like the other zetsu's do when they're beat up)
10/12/11 New Theory -Osae

 

[BarBoBot]

Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

1v4n: Itachi HATED Danzo... The whole reason Danzo let Sasuke stay alive in the village was because Itachi would have killed him if he harmed Sasuke.

 

[katsagu]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

That is a rly good theory reps for you

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Re: If Tobi isn't Madara , how did he control the fox during attack on Konoha ?

Like I said earlier , Danzo said that in the summit , he mentioned the people who could tame bijus , Madara was the only Uchiha mentioned.

He was the only one "mentioned", never stated the only one "capable"