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Re: Tobi is not madara So eff all of you
well, that was an once in a lifetime mistake for all Naruto fans.
well, that was an once in a lifetime mistake for all Naruto fans.
[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread
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Tobi....Is.......
Obito.....Reason?
Obito's right side was crushed by the boulder, his left eye transplanted. Kakashi said that his friend died but what if he didn't? What if he was saved. What if Obito was saved by Zetsu and was given a brand new right arm made from what Zetsu is made of, which explains why he could regain limbs. Obito always talked about peace and wars. So maybe Madara told Zetsu, prior to the Obito event, to seek out a follower that would carry out his plans before his death.
...A dying Obito..
So Zetsu tells Obito how he can change the world and tells him to go by Madara, his alias. Obito agrees and is informed about the history of the Uchiha and the Sage. Kuro-Zetsu has a relation with Juubi. Shiro-Zetsu has a relation to the Senju. Obito works to get Madara his Juubi body, but it backfired.
(A friend's theory. I believe Tobi is Madara though. :/)
Obito.....Reason?
Obito's right side was crushed by the boulder, his left eye transplanted. Kakashi said that his friend died but what if he didn't? What if he was saved. What if Obito was saved by Zetsu and was given a brand new right arm made from what Zetsu is made of, which explains why he could regain limbs. Obito always talked about peace and wars. So maybe Madara told Zetsu, prior to the Obito event, to seek out a follower that would carry out his plans before his death.
...A dying Obito..
So Zetsu tells Obito how he can change the world and tells him to go by Madara, his alias. Obito agrees and is informed about the history of the Uchiha and the Sage. Kuro-Zetsu has a relation with Juubi. Shiro-Zetsu has a relation to the Senju. Obito works to get Madara his Juubi body, but it backfired.
(A friend's theory. I believe Tobi is Madara though. :/)
but u kind of lost me at the end.... madara already had EMS.... what happens when u transplant the perfect sharingan?
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Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
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I can say the following without any doubt what so ever. This is not speculation, it is as undisputed as facts come. As clear as daylight. Itachi already had his Mangekyou Sharingan before the Uchiha massacre.
Read chapter 222 and 223 and tell me that again.
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I can say the following without any doubt what so ever. This is not speculation, it is as undisputed as facts come. As clear as daylight. Itachi already had his Mangekyou Sharingan before the Uchiha massacre.
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The plot??? (a madara and tobi discussion)... Dont like, dont read.
ok, the main question here is: " is tobi madara" blah, blah, blah. Nope. the real question is how long must you be dead to actully be "dead". OK lets say the 1st and madara fights. both get badly hurt. go their own ways. MADARA DIES. blood is at the site. Madara is revived by a medic. well guess what. He died and his blood their was from when he died. but he was brought back.
what now? Anyways it will be great to find out who he is if not madara. and to the fact that madara wanted nagato to use his tech on him to bring him back to life.... again if he died.... again.
lol call my dumb
ok, the main question here is: " is tobi madara" blah, blah, blah. Nope. the real question is how long must you be dead to actully be "dead". OK lets say the 1st and madara fights. both get badly hurt. go their own ways. MADARA DIES. blood is at the site. Madara is revived by a medic. well guess what. He died and his blood their was from when he died. but he was brought back.
what now? Anyways it will be great to find out who he is if not madara. and to the fact that madara wanted nagato to use his tech on him to bring him back to life.... again if he died.... again.
lol call my dumb
Re: Tobi is not madara So eff all of you
dude yes we know....i was happy as well when i found out but think 2 things before making threads luke these
1. how long has it been out
2. wait hold on, if it was that amazing that it made me want to make a thread as pointless as this how many others also wanted to
oh and 3. use search
dude yes we know....i was happy as well when i found out but think 2 things before making threads luke these
1. how long has it been out
2. wait hold on, if it was that amazing that it made me want to make a thread as pointless as this how many others also wanted to
oh and 3. use search
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Re: Theory Madara 2
some always says something about the hair all uchiha have the same hair when you think about it also when has kishi have used an ordinary character unknown and used him to be someone awesome kishi usually kills off character like that prime example asuma he didn't really play a big role in naruto (opinion) but i still think he is an epic shinobi
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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler
Since hearing people comments to why Tobi could be Madara has made me warm up quite a bit to the idea of that
A little ticked off I just wrote crap loads just for the browser to cut off -.-
Anyway I am confused to how Madara knew Nagato, since Madara was around 100 years ago, I don't even think Jiraiya was alive when Madara was. So how could Madara know Nagato?
I am not sure whether Madara died or not. Maybe Madara died when he fought the 1st Hokage or he lived afterwards. Anyway remember Madara thought he was brought back by Nagato rebirth Jutsu? Do you also remember Tobi said Nagato rebirth Jutsu was for him when Nagato died?
I believe Madara and Tobi are now the same person, I believe Tobi is the split version of Madara. I do not know if anyone has noticed this. I had to re-check the manga to just refresh my memory. You only see Madara in this chapter with One Sharingan and when Tobi fought Konan his right eye closed when he used Izanagi, where his Main Sharingan has always been visible on his left side. Even now with the Rinnegan he keeps that left Sharingan. I believe that left Sharingan is Uchiha Madara's. I'm not sure how Madara managed to split himself in to two. Maybe Tobi was created by the help of Zetsu (Explains why his body is made up of Zetsu goo and is able to replace any limb). The split version is not the body etc, it solely the left eye of Uchiha Madara.
I do not believe Madara used Izanagi to save his life, it explains why he died. He used Izanagi to breathe life perhaps into the body Zetsu made and used his left eye to keep himself to live on. That could explain why Tobi has lived on for so long.
I am sorry if none of this makes sense, I already wrote all this out and it annoyed me to write it all again. If you don't understand some parts. Just say so I can explain it better.
To SUM it all up
Tobi is Madara, he has Madara left eye and Madara used Izanagi to keep that part of himself to live on through the Zetsu body, that is why the left eye perhaps didn't close,, Maybe the EMS gave him that ability to do this. It could explain why Tobi can not use EMS because he is not reunited with Madara.
Maybe it why Tobi had to agree to side with Kabuto because while Kabuto had control of Madara, he could never reunite with him.
Madara right eye is only visible
Tobi left eye was only visible (before the rinnegan)
I actually believe Madara and Tobi are the same person
I just don't know how Madara would know who Nagato was.
Since hearing people comments to why Tobi could be Madara has made me warm up quite a bit to the idea of that
A little ticked off I just wrote crap loads just for the browser to cut off -.-
Anyway I am confused to how Madara knew Nagato, since Madara was around 100 years ago, I don't even think Jiraiya was alive when Madara was. So how could Madara know Nagato?
I am not sure whether Madara died or not. Maybe Madara died when he fought the 1st Hokage or he lived afterwards. Anyway remember Madara thought he was brought back by Nagato rebirth Jutsu? Do you also remember Tobi said Nagato rebirth Jutsu was for him when Nagato died?
I believe Madara and Tobi are now the same person, I believe Tobi is the split version of Madara. I do not know if anyone has noticed this. I had to re-check the manga to just refresh my memory. You only see Madara in this chapter with One Sharingan and when Tobi fought Konan his right eye closed when he used Izanagi, where his Main Sharingan has always been visible on his left side. Even now with the Rinnegan he keeps that left Sharingan. I believe that left Sharingan is Uchiha Madara's. I'm not sure how Madara managed to split himself in to two. Maybe Tobi was created by the help of Zetsu (Explains why his body is made up of Zetsu goo and is able to replace any limb). The split version is not the body etc, it solely the left eye of Uchiha Madara.
I do not believe Madara used Izanagi to save his life, it explains why he died. He used Izanagi to breathe life perhaps into the body Zetsu made and used his left eye to keep himself to live on. That could explain why Tobi has lived on for so long.
I am sorry if none of this makes sense, I already wrote all this out and it annoyed me to write it all again. If you don't understand some parts. Just say so I can explain it better.
To SUM it all up
Tobi is Madara, he has Madara left eye and Madara used Izanagi to keep that part of himself to live on through the Zetsu body, that is why the left eye perhaps didn't close,, Maybe the EMS gave him that ability to do this. It could explain why Tobi can not use EMS because he is not reunited with Madara.
Maybe it why Tobi had to agree to side with Kabuto because while Kabuto had control of Madara, he could never reunite with him.
Madara right eye is only visible
Tobi left eye was only visible (before the rinnegan)
I actually believe Madara and Tobi are the same person
I just don't know how Madara would know who Nagato was.
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Re: Tobi's identity revealed
where'd you get the idea that Madara wasn't pleased by the notion he may have been revived by Nagato?
he says Nagato has grown...meaning he's surprised if anything that Nagato was able to revive him...only then to realize that it wasnt Rinne Tensei but Edo Tensei...THATS where he showed a bit of displeasure
where'd you get the idea that Madara wasn't pleased by the notion he may have been revived by Nagato?
he says Nagato has grown...meaning he's surprised if anything that Nagato was able to revive him...only then to realize that it wasnt Rinne Tensei but Edo Tensei...THATS where he showed a bit of displeasure
Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)
I see now that itachi did have MS before, but that changes nothing about my theory. I had only mentioned Fugaku wanting to activate Itachis MS as a side note. The theory is unchanged and IMHO still the most plausible.
I see now that itachi did have MS before, but that changes nothing about my theory. I had only mentioned Fugaku wanting to activate Itachis MS as a side note. The theory is unchanged and IMHO still the most plausible.
Prediction:Tobi is Madara!
tobi is zetsu with some of madaras chakra. Madara dident die in his battle with Hashirama, because he had some of Hashiramas chakra and what that he killed was a Zetsu clone. Madara also took some of Hashiramas dna to live longer and died around Nagatos birth. Madara then made a Zetsu clone with some of his soul and that is what bacame tobi.
tobi is zetsu with some of madaras chakra. Madara dident die in his battle with Hashirama, because he had some of Hashiramas chakra and what that he killed was a Zetsu clone. Madara also took some of Hashiramas dna to live longer and died around Nagatos birth. Madara then made a Zetsu clone with some of his soul and that is what bacame tobi.
Re: Tobi....Is.......
c'mon man obito...seriously
lets look at it this way, obito always wanted to protect his friends and family and village
why would he want to start a war!!!
he grew up in a war and it almost got his friends killed and also got alot of other that he knew killed
if he was then we would of had hints as to say he was maybe a kakshi interest or something towards kakshi
think dude, tobi is not obito. obito is dead
i don't care about the whole thing about kakashi's sharingan has spacetime so maybe thats why tobi has it
look for 1 thing its a diff tech all together and need MS to use it tobi as far as we know has never used or never has MS
he's not obito so please no...
c'mon man obito...seriously
lets look at it this way, obito always wanted to protect his friends and family and village
why would he want to start a war!!!
he grew up in a war and it almost got his friends killed and also got alot of other that he knew killed
if he was then we would of had hints as to say he was maybe a kakshi interest or something towards kakshi
think dude, tobi is not obito. obito is dead
i don't care about the whole thing about kakashi's sharingan has spacetime so maybe thats why tobi has it
look for 1 thing its a diff tech all together and need MS to use it tobi as far as we know has never used or never has MS
he's not obito so please no...
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