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Who is the man behind the mask


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Re: tobi, a man of mystery.. new ideas..?

yeah thats how they get eternal mangekyo by taking another sharingan so yeah it would work and yeah but i thought they said after that war kagami and the rest of them died in the war with the second..?
 

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Re: Tobi's identity revealed

Tobi is madara clone -_- or madara brother who offer his eyes to him or he could be Madara Jr.

And from what i see this i think yamato gonna set free and merge with the last hashirama remaining cell in madara hideout and be hashirama himself
 

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Re: Who Is Tobi

I don't believe that tobi is madara anymore, not after this chapter.

My hypothesis is this:

Itachi was right, madara help him kill his clan

Nagato was one boy who receive his eyes from madara, and was controlled by madara. Madara wants peace. After all, 1º hokage gets to him, thats why all people believe that the evil madara was dead.

Tobi controlled one Kage to be able to obtain Kisame, and makes kisame enter into akatsuki, maybe like a spy for him.

tobi wants to bring someone of the death, with Nagato's Rinne Tensei.

With this i come to conclusion, this:

Tobi controleed kyuubi to attack konoaha, to let the uchiha control konoha. Madara finds out and help itachi.

Tobi controlled nagato and kill madara.

Tobi after kill madara and gets a stock of uchiha eyes and a the 1º hokage cells

Tobi become Madara to the world, controlling nagato and akatsuki, and when akatsuki was weak he himself enter as a member.

Tobi uses Izanagi and one unique tecnique of teleportation, with it he survive to Amaterasu
flames.

What is left to answer is who Tobi, and who he wants to bring from the death.

I believe that rinnegan eyes are unique in the world and only the sage of 6 paths have it, and only madara and the 1º hokage have acess to them.

We know that tobi is 100% new character, so I think is he is one of uchiha clan. Maybe the first one to uses Izanagi in the clan. This history line fits too in the theory of tobi is one of the elders of kanoha like danzo. :shrug:

(Sorry for the bad English)
 
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TOBI is ..

Tobi Is Uchiha Izuna

If youve read the manga recently you know
that uchiha madara was impure world ressurected
meaning that uhciha madara must be dead otherwise he wouldnt be able to be IWR since his soul is still living
meaning
uchiha madara is not tobi
... DUH

so i believe that Tobi is his brother Uchiha Izuna
he clearly didnt die as he is alive here and hes appearing dead here
Now this is narutoverse and eye transplants dont kill especialy when theres med nins around and he wasntt dead before the eye surgery also tobi when speaking to sasuke said my brother accepted his fate in sacrificing his eyes but we know tobi is not madara so

i think that when he said accepted his fate its belived that izuna got the short stick for having to sacrifice his eyes to his brother madara to help make the clan thrive but maybe it was the other way round

madara got the short stick because he had to take his brothers eyes and fight harishima to get his cells and ultimatly die in battle
i dont think madara went into battle to die i think his plan A was to win but plan B was to steal some of his cells and hide them somewhere in his corspe later for his brother to experiment with and to later on in life avenge him therefore his brother was the trump card while people believed him dead he waited. He took his brothers EMS form his corpse and the cells of harishma
So why doesnt he have ems? maybe like the byakugan EMS was sealed EMS would be extremely valuble also harishima would have likely taken them if he thoguht neccesary which i think it wud be since its like leaving a million bucks on the floor but when madara died his EMS was sealed along with it leaving a normal sharingan maybe one that has to be awakened such as normal MS so his appearing normal sharingan awakened straight to EMS

Also tobi states i have relitivly all of madaras powers he spoke about "himself" in 3rd person why cuz hes really izuna
a shadow of his former self SEALED EMS
also he has not been IWR if u IWR madara u should IWR his brother izuna with matching capabilities but they cant cuz hes alive as tobi
PS:Sorry for my repeated misspelling of the first hokages name
 
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Re: tobi, a man of mystery.. new ideas..?

Why would this "Kagami" pretend to be Madara? It's not like they've got any history together right? Just doesn't make any sense.
 

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Re: Who Is Tobi

so u mean its all about suspicion for kishi, i dont think kishi thinks like that, he usually puts everything together, and it usually have a big meaning, specially for someone to be the big bad villian everyone is supposed to be scared of!!

kagame is too heavy for that!
kagemi if you may.

He was as pwoerful as danzo, sarutobi etc..

He has the sharingan.

He is an uchiha.

We never saw him die, or even better, they never said he died.

he is just as a good candidate as your lazy post up there.
 

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Re: Who is actually Tobi? [Another Tobi Theory]

@tiptop; that won't explain anything, especially since the revived madara is as old as he was during the first ninja war.

The zetsu theory someone posted elsewhere starts making alot of sense now.. but why would Tobi do things like this then? Madara clearly stated something which proved he is against impure ressurection.

@Madara being Obito; that's just purely impossible, if Obito weren't dead he'd be about the same age as Kakashi, Tobi looks alooot older than that.
Yea Obito is out of the Question :eek:
 
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tobi is uchiha shisui!!!

tobi is not madara i also posted in my previous threads..... now when madara comes he speak that litle brat nagato managed to grow that means madara is the one that give rinnegan to nagato... we know that during SECOND world war some konoha ninja kill his parents and nagato awaken his rinnegan.... so what i am saying is that madara give rinnegan to nagato then he fights with first hokage at the valley of end.... so tobi is not that give rinnegan to nagato...

tobi is uchiha shisui because it is never mentioned in manga that shisui and itachi are of same age... if someone thinking that they are of same age then give me solid proof.....itachi lied to sasuke that u need to kill ur closest friend to awaken ms based on that lie sasuke and many peoples make perception that itachi killed shisui and shisui is closest friend of itachi and they are of same age and ms is awaken by killing ur closest friend.... its all their perception based on itachi lie so their perception is wrong because it is based on lie....

so shisui is like elder brother to itachi as the three uchihas respect shisui and they not respect much itachi...so shisui is elder than itachi.... many peoples also make perception that shisui is a member of anbu and some people thing that he is a member of root but they are wrong because at that time their are three organisations that are anbu, root and konoha military police force(kmpf) so shisui is a member of kmpf because shisui was instructed by kmpf to keep tabs on itachi so that shows shisui is a member of kmpf not anbu neither root.. we know very little about kmpf i mean how the organisation worksetc

shisui is the one who controlled fourth mizukage yagura as lady mizukage said to danzo when he used shisui eye that their is some connection between the jutsu u use and that jutsu used to control yagura in ch461.... so shisui is the one that controls fourth mizukage ... then he met with kisame... where he explained his moon eye plan... now during this time shisui also fought with A0 who know his chakra.... Ao also saw the illusion placed on fourth mizukage it is mention in ch459 ... now yagura is no longer is under his genjutsu so yagura and shisui fought... yagura is also very strong and he has three tails .... but shisui is also known as shisui of body flicker because he is using space time jutsu and other peoples thought that he is using body flicker jutsu.... so shisui somehow able to kill yagura and three tails escapes as shisui dont have so much chakra to seal three tails alone in gedo mazo... so shisui want an organisation to seal all the tail beast in gedo mazo.. however in manga it is not mention how fourth mizukage is killed.... after this shisui is the one that encoraged yahiko to form akatsuki as shisui want to seal all the tail beast in gedo mazo...

now comes konoha fox incident at that night it is shisui who fought with fourth hokage... shisui used his kotoamatsukhmi on nine tails and order him to destroy konoha ... but fourth defeated him and save konoha...
after eight years its uchiha massacre and uchiha shisui is mastermind behind the whole plan he gave danzo his right eye and in manga it is never explained how danzo get shisui eye so shisui gave his one eye to danzo with an agreement and he gave other eye to itachi and said him to protect konoha with it.... now three uchihas that shisui is very devoted to clan then why shisui done nothing to protect uchiha clan instead he provoke itachi for his future actions .... itachi thought that shisui commited suicide but he not and many peoples thing that itachi killed him but it is never shown in manga.... so shisui is alive then shisui hide his existence under the name of madara... during uchiha massacre itachi thought that it is madara but he is shisui but itachi is nota fool since itachi respect shisui so much and so he not doubt tobi to be shisui.....

A0 and tobi never face each other tobi comes in the room when A0 is not in the room because he left room to chase danzo.... tobi use zetsu fluid only in one arm because shisui gave his one arm to danzo...so tobi is uchiha shisui....
 

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Re: Who Is Tobi

Alright, Now from the very begining, since the first time Kabuto showed Madara his Trump Card the 6th Coffin, i had a theory that it was Madara in the coffin, thinking that tobi was only Madaras Soul, and that by showing him the 6th coffin, kabuto revealed to madara that knew who and what he was, because if tobi was only madaras soul in another body somehow, kabuto would have been able to use edo tensei to summon tobi's soul and control him as his puppet!!, and this would show why tobi couldnt refuse!!, but theory has almost been proven wrong, though not entirely nor for certain..

anyway, after seeing this last chapter, i would like to create a list of Possibilities on who Tobi might be!!

List Of Possibilities


1-my old theory might still be true, this way..

if there was more to Edo Tensei than we currently know, forexample..
edo tensei is supposed to be to summon and seal a soul of your desire into a "Strange Body", and that body would become the soul, and have all the powers and abilities it had before its death, what if you could do it the other way around?, to summon a "Strange Soul" into a body of your desire, and instead of the soul being ressurected, the body Will be!!, meaning the strange soul would have all the powers of the body its inhabiting!!, meaning whoevers soul kabuto summoned has now all the powers of uchiha madara!!

2-Zetsu is Madara, half of madaras soul is in black zetsu, taking the shape of madara thanks to white zetsu, black zetsu records or storages the soul, and white zetsu copies the body, after the battle between him and the first hokage, madara put half of his soul in black zetsu, an empty being, looking like dark space, and after the first hokages death, he took his cells and created the white zetsu!!, and with this, he was able to have a body again!!, but he was still not complete, because half of his soul was in the afterlife!!, thats why he said he is only a shell of his former self, and that he wanted to be "Complete", and thats why he said he wanted Nagatos ressurrection Jutsu "Rinnei Gedo Tensei" for the purpose of Revival, and being Complete!!

kabuto summed madara, meaning he had his other half, if tobi hurt him, he would only hurt and weaken himself!!

heres my complete theory of this



3-Madara is the Sage Of The Six Path's Older Son, it explains why he knew so much, and afterall, in any manga or anime, its usually the biggest evil that is the big bad villian, and the Elder Son was the Big and First Evil!!

perhaps he killed his own younger brother, but not before taking serious damage himself!!, he was badly damaged, and he wanted his fathers power, so he set out to collect the bijuu and revive his fathers "SO6P's" true power in himself!!

if this true, this would mean tobi is far older than just a 100 years!!, he is of the time of SO6P, and he knows the bijuu's pretty well, and how to control them, and the only explaination could be this..

So6p's Older son was either the father or Master of Madara, he was madaras master and mentor, and he practicly raised him, and since he loved power, and madara did too, they had alot in common, he truly came to care for the boy!, even evil people have someone whom they truly care about, this could explain tobi's reaction to kabuto's last coffin, and also to his desire to use Nagatos revival jutsu!!, this would also explain why he was able to give nagato his rinnegan, the older son of so6p didnt have sharingan, he had the rinnegan remember?

"perhaps it was even he who took Izunas eyes, and thats why he had sharingan, his own eyes he gave to nagato, then he took about what was originally his"

and if he actually had a son "madara", then it would prove it even more!!


4-Madara is really Obito as so many believed, this may be farfetched, but the only connection could be, that either Zetsu, or Madara saved obito that day, and ever since that day, alot has happened!!

5-tobi is either jyuubi's evil and mind once divided by so6p along with his powers, or it is actually so6p himself!! "though this is only a possibility, im not atall sure of it"
This makes sense, but their are some holes. I like it in general, great theorery. It's the best one I've heard. I definitely agree it's not obito though. There would be no reason that he would want to destroy the leaf, and he would be missing an eye which we know he's not. It's possible madara Iznagied himself to create his other half of his body. That would make sense. Great thereory. Sorry I had to take out the links I don't have 10 posts yet.
 
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