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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara
I got the complete opposite from that memory of Kisames, for me he was trying to protect the information of Tobi/Madaras true well known identity from the ninja alliance. I say this because right when they were about to learn what his face looks like with the mind reading jutsu Kisame flipped out and broke the mental jutsu as well as his wood style restraints with willpower alone then sacrificed himself to keep it that way..
I got the complete opposite from that memory of Kisames, for me he was trying to protect the information of Tobi/Madaras true well known identity from the ninja alliance. I say this because right when they were about to learn what his face looks like with the mind reading jutsu Kisame flipped out and broke the mental jutsu as well as his wood style restraints with willpower alone then sacrificed himself to keep it that way..
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I hope he's somebody else, it'll add another plot to the story
I hope he's somebody else, it'll add another plot to the story
Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara
first of all ur reason for kisame calling him madara means he is madara is lame, since kisame is only going of what he was shown, zetsu who would be more knowledgeable in the issue still calls him tobi, kabuto who i also think has identified him also calls him tobi so the case for him NOT being the real madara is stronger.
yes u could be right that tobi actuali is madara but a lot more is pointing towards him not being madara and would also make the series more interesting..so far the best theory is the uchiha kagami (excuse the spelling) one.
first of all ur reason for kisame calling him madara means he is madara is lame, since kisame is only going of what he was shown, zetsu who would be more knowledgeable in the issue still calls him tobi, kabuto who i also think has identified him also calls him tobi so the case for him NOT being the real madara is stronger.
yes u could be right that tobi actuali is madara but a lot more is pointing towards him not being madara and would also make the series more interesting..so far the best theory is the uchiha kagami (excuse the spelling) one.
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Can i just say iv recently tead that episode and when he 1st tell kisame hes madara he DOES NOT reveal his face. Kisame doesnt believe him and tobi says no matter. The 2nd time you mention is kisame joking about the people tobi has pretended to be. So your thread has no proof
Can i just say iv recently tead that episode and when he 1st tell kisame hes madara he DOES NOT reveal his face. Kisame doesnt believe him and tobi says no matter. The 2nd time you mention is kisame joking about the people tobi has pretended to be. So your thread has no proof
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I always thought that the guy behind the mast would be madara's younger brother Izuna itachi, since we've never really seen madara's face or his eternal mangekyou sharingan. Izuna could have just implanted a normal sharingan into his eye once madara took his mangekyou.
I always thought that the guy behind the mast would be madara's younger brother Izuna itachi, since we've never really seen madara's face or his eternal mangekyou sharingan. Izuna could have just implanted a normal sharingan into his eye once madara took his mangekyou.
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there so many reason of what he can be he can technically call himself madara if he was a zetsu clone because he can take the person own chakra signature/facial features so he can call himself madara.how can madara at that time even go to the extremety to replace his body that much to a zetsu one where he doesn't feel the pain and can just replace the limbs.It's obivious that this is not his body that he is in, tobi is clearly a zetsu body with uchiha chakra which would be senju and uchiha combined in essence this would actually make sense of how he was able to combine the two clans into one body.
doesn't sound a bit crazy for someone t replace there blood flow with zetsu goo which would kill a person when orochimaru himself had blood still.orochimaru is the creator of tat soul tech not madara so how can madara switch his soul to a new body it's obvious that zetsu touched madara and took his physical features/chakra and since he also made from hashirama he has the sage body the 2 clans in one he technically is madara he has the same exact face it really wouldn't be surprising since zetsu can do it.kisame can just be fooled by a zetsu clone that transplanted his eyes for a real sharingan in his laboratory making him able to use sharingan abilites.
tobi is still more likely to be a zetsu clone of madara than the real madara himself.
don't you think that's why he has sharingan in his labortaory so tht he can use it.
there so many reason of what he can be he can technically call himself madara if he was a zetsu clone because he can take the person own chakra signature/facial features so he can call himself madara.how can madara at that time even go to the extremety to replace his body that much to a zetsu one where he doesn't feel the pain and can just replace the limbs.It's obivious that this is not his body that he is in, tobi is clearly a zetsu body with uchiha chakra which would be senju and uchiha combined in essence this would actually make sense of how he was able to combine the two clans into one body.
doesn't sound a bit crazy for someone t replace there blood flow with zetsu goo which would kill a person when orochimaru himself had blood still.orochimaru is the creator of tat soul tech not madara so how can madara switch his soul to a new body it's obvious that zetsu touched madara and took his physical features/chakra and since he also made from hashirama he has the sage body the 2 clans in one he technically is madara he has the same exact face it really wouldn't be surprising since zetsu can do it.kisame can just be fooled by a zetsu clone that transplanted his eyes for a real sharingan in his laboratory making him able to use sharingan abilites.
tobi is still more likely to be a zetsu clone of madara than the real madara himself.
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I love how everyone is 100% certain that it is or is not Madara.
We know that Tobi lies, as he told Sasuke that the Fox attack on Konoha was a natural disaster - Chapter 399, Page 14 on the Narutobase online viewer (I can't post links to pictures yet it seems)
But Minato, Kushina and Jiraiya all say that the Masked Man was behind the attack.
There is also the fact that we've never actually seen Tobi's face, but we've seen Madaras in flash backs and whatnot.
Sure he might be Madara, but for we all know he might be a mix of Madaras and Hashiramas DNA.
The point is, Tobi's face is hidden behind the mask, and it wouldn't be hidden without a perfectly good reason.
I love how everyone is 100% certain that it is or is not Madara.
We know that Tobi lies, as he told Sasuke that the Fox attack on Konoha was a natural disaster - Chapter 399, Page 14 on the Narutobase online viewer (I can't post links to pictures yet it seems)
But Minato, Kushina and Jiraiya all say that the Masked Man was behind the attack.
There is also the fact that we've never actually seen Tobi's face, but we've seen Madaras in flash backs and whatnot.
Sure he might be Madara, but for we all know he might be a mix of Madaras and Hashiramas DNA.
The point is, Tobi's face is hidden behind the mask, and it wouldn't be hidden without a perfectly good reason.
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what is up with people saying the nine tailed fox is madara
what is up with people saying the nine tailed fox is madara
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its obito.. same sort of sharingan abilities as kakashi.. each having the sharingan in the opposing eye.. plus not to sure but wasnt it mentioned somewhere both eyes have to be active to use m/s? well if thats the case, both eyes are active just in different bodies. conclusion: either madara/toby is obito......... or both kakashi and toby/madara's eyes belong from the same freaking eyes sockets....... in other words its obito's eyeballs.
why cover the face/body? i dont think its because his got low self esteem.. his hiding his ID. people know who madara is.. for crying out loud theres a big ass statue 1000x human size with his face carved on it.. so point is.. why would someone claim to be madara and then hide is face? cos its not him.
u know where madara is? in the mystery/kinder surprise coffin kabuto showed tobi, what else would make him freak the hell out like that.
its obito.. same sort of sharingan abilities as kakashi.. each having the sharingan in the opposing eye.. plus not to sure but wasnt it mentioned somewhere both eyes have to be active to use m/s? well if thats the case, both eyes are active just in different bodies. conclusion: either madara/toby is obito......... or both kakashi and toby/madara's eyes belong from the same freaking eyes sockets....... in other words its obito's eyeballs.
why cover the face/body? i dont think its because his got low self esteem.. his hiding his ID. people know who madara is.. for crying out loud theres a big ass statue 1000x human size with his face carved on it.. so point is.. why would someone claim to be madara and then hide is face? cos its not him.
u know where madara is? in the mystery/kinder surprise coffin kabuto showed tobi, what else would make him freak the hell out like that.
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tobi = Madara not obito (who was crushed by a rock when he was a child and wouldn't be a bad guy)
It was stated that Madara had obtained some of the first hokage's dna + with his unusal large amounts of chakra, it made him immortal, which is the reason y he was able to live for so long. Kishi has revealed to us all through MANY different characters that Tobi is Madara, why would he lie about that? :shrug:
tobi = Madara not obito (who was crushed by a rock when he was a child and wouldn't be a bad guy)
It was stated that Madara had obtained some of the first hokage's dna + with his unusal large amounts of chakra, it made him immortal, which is the reason y he was able to live for so long. Kishi has revealed to us all through MANY different characters that Tobi is Madara, why would he lie about that? :shrug:
Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara
zetsu clone may have his features and chakra but doesn't have his soul so madara can be summoned.
just to add the 6 coffin could be the reason of why tobi is scared because that would be madara revealed into the world making tobi crredibilty weaker to allied shinobi forces(the forces are even worried because they think this is the madara that fought hashirama if they knew this was not him this would make tobi weak to them that's why tobi said this would weaken him)
zetsu clone may have his features and chakra but doesn't have his soul so madara can be summoned.
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Ima be laughing when kishi somehow bans your account for finding everything out xD Very good points btw
Ima be laughing when kishi somehow bans your account for finding everything out xD Very good points btw
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true, but one thing that wouldn't make sense, when he spoke of his "brother" he was so hurt and angry at the same time (he held his shoulder a certain way) and also another thing that wouldn't make sense, (his fake arm because he escape the battle because of his sensai) and him having the first DNA because the first died before the second, and the second died from the battle injuries of that battle and his knowledge of doing the EMS surgery.
true, but one thing that wouldn't make sense, when he spoke of his "brother" he was so hurt and angry at the same time (he held his shoulder a certain way) and also another thing that wouldn't make sense, (his fake arm because he escape the battle because of his sensai) and him having the first DNA because the first died before the second, and the second died from the battle injuries of that battle and his knowledge of doing the EMS surgery.
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I think that tobi has more chances of being izuna uchiha than madara. First, madara should have the EMS, but we've never seen him use it. Second, if izuna gave madara his MS, and used the sharingan laboratory to transplant new ones into his own eyes, then he would fit the profile of tobi:
Old uchia
Regular sharingans
And has much more of a reason to be angry at the world and the uchiha clan than madara does.
I'm guessing madara did die at the valley of the end, but izuna was there to collect the First's cells.
I think that tobi has more chances of being izuna uchiha than madara. First, madara should have the EMS, but we've never seen him use it. Second, if izuna gave madara his MS, and used the sharingan laboratory to transplant new ones into his own eyes, then he would fit the profile of tobi:
Old uchia
Regular sharingans
And has much more of a reason to be angry at the world and the uchiha clan than madara does.
I'm guessing madara did die at the valley of the end, but izuna was there to collect the First's cells.
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madara took izuna eyes before he died and edo only resurrects people in the state in which they died and itachi and nagato had theirs when they died, equals or not many strong shinobi from the past have been revived so that wouldn't scare madara much, and he is a completely different person now even possessing the rinnegan and senju's cells,and if he is indeed madara, he said himself "I'm only a shell of my former self" and you say "secrets" because of their close relation? what does that have to do with anything? let me give you a better picture, let's say kabuto died before oro and someone revived kabuto and kabuto knows a lot of oro's secrets and that person says "I haven't told a soul" lol, what does that mean? "I haven't told anyone that I have kabuto and am now going to make him go around and tell everyone your secrets" give me a break, and if you're thinking he made izuna tell him his secrets then you're wrong because the edo either fully controls you which leaves you brain dead OR you kinda have a mind of your own in which izuna can choose not to tell kabuto anything which gets rid of that "I'm going to make kabuto tell everyone theory" and now the only thing you can possibly mean is that he's afraid of izuna beating him in battle because he knows some secret but like i said before he's different now with all new abilities and the words "I haven't told a soul" still wouldn't make any sense because him telling people he has izuna wouldn't mean anything.
you may be right
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