[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Kinimaster]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

okay, I was sure he said "don't worry, I won't tell you anything" but it's pointless now since it will be so hard for me to find it. but anyway it doesn't change anything because first madara says "th..thats" and then kabuto says "anyway,you can relax,I haven't told a soul" so same scenario, it is obviously information because not telling anybody that he resurrected somebody strong would not harm madara,I mean you SHOULD be able to see it,it's very clear that kabuto holds information and that information has something to do with the identity of the 6th coffin,and THAT is what scared madara chapter 490

Dude there is no point in keep arguing with this kid, he make up his mind about this and wont change it, im just gonna leave this thread and let the guy be happy with his ultimate proof, cause yo know its real proof.

 

[natssuu]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

read some posts of mine ago, its Izuna

Blind Izuna is stronger than Nagato, Itachi, Kages etc. ? And even if he would have his eyes, he can't be stronger than all the other Edos. EMS Madara makes the most sense. Tobi is not the person he claims to be. Kishi has dropped many hints of it. And of course Madara is in the coffin.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Dude there is no point in keep arguing with this kid, he make up his mind about this and wont change it, im just gonna leave this thread and let the guy be happy with his ultimate proof, cause yo know its real proof.

Kid ? whatever ... live with your Obito fanfic and yeah, you better leave if you have nothing nice to say. At least I give you proofs ... all you say is some trolling shit.

Blind Izuna is stronger than Nagato, Itachi, Kages etc. ? And even if he would have his eyes, he can't be stronger than all the other Edos. EMS Madara makes the most sense. Tobi is not the person he claims to be. Kishi has dropped many hints of it. And of course Madara is in the coffin.

How blind ? They are revived with eyes/KKG and everything ... Itachi is a proof of that.
LOL you can believe as long that Madara is in the coffin until you yourself will be in one

 

[natssuu]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Kid ? whatever ... live with your Obito fanfic and yeah, you better leave if you have nothing nice to say. At least I give you proofs ... all you say is some trolling shit.


How blind ? They are revived with eyes/KKG and everything ... Itachi is a proof of that.
LOL you can believe as long that Madara is in the coffin until you yourself will be in one

He lost his Kekkei Genkai before he died, Itachi & Nagato didn't.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

He lost his Kekkei Genkai before he died, Itachi & Nagato didn't.

He cant lost his KKG .. its in his DNA/blood. They are revived without any wounds/harms they had in life. So Izuna died blind but would/will be revived with eyes.
Kakashi broke Zabuza's arms, Naruto made a mess from Kakuzu with his FRS and while revived they are OK. Read again the chapter when Kabuto explained how the technique works.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Kid ? whatever ... live with your Obito fanfic and yeah, you better leave if you have nothing nice to say. At least I give you proofs ... all you say is some trolling shit.


How blind ? They are revived with eyes/KKG and everything ... Itachi is a proof of that.
LOL you can believe as long that Madara is in the coffin until you yourself will be in one

Ok now i know for sure you are a kid, i never said anything about Obito kid, so please dont put your ignorant words and presumptions in my mouth, you say things as a 100% fact while they are not until Kishi shows it in the manga, so you little boy are trolling, i always said i dont know who Tobi is but im pretty sure(theory of mine, not a fact, like your should be) he is not Madara, just that, so please dont make stuff about me saying anything about Obito, it makes you look desperate and lame. I dont know maybe you are just posting things to make your thread longer, because you dont really have any answers, just presumtions and theorys. Also another question, are you homosexual or gay? its a serious question dont misunderstand, i dont have anything against homosexuals, its just i find hard to believe a straight man would use that avatar.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Ok now i know for sure you are a kid, i never said anything about Obito kid, so please dont put your ignorant words and presumptions in my mouth, you say things as a 100% fact while they are not until Kishi shows it in the manga, so you little boy are trolling, i always said i dont know who Tobi is but im pretty sure(theory of mine, not a fact, like your should be) he is not Madara, just that, so please dont make stuff about me saying anything about Obito, it makes you look desperate and lame. I dont know maybe you are just posting things to make your thread longer, because you dont really have any answers, just presumtions and theorys. Also another question, are you homosexual or gay? its a serious question dont misunderstand, i dont have anything against homosexuals, its just i find hard to believe a straight man would use that avatar.

Well ... I have respected you at first but now ... yeah, I say it as a fact but I gave proofs. Give me manga chapter and page or something that will make me and others believe that coffin guy is Madara and Tobi is someone else ... so lets stay nice to each other, shall we ?
And little boy is arguable since Im 19 and I dunno your age because it does not matter. And I have answers ... I have answered to every "No" from you guys. Whats the difference between homosexual and gay ? Maybe serious question ... and it does not matter what I am.
This is about Tobi/Madara not my sexual orientation and I use that avatar because of that red blindfold not his chest.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Well ... I have respected you at first but now ... yeah, I say it as a fact but I gave proofs. Give me manga chapter and page or something that will make me and others believe that coffin guy is Madara and Tobi is someone else ... so lets stay nice to each other, shall we ?
And little boy is arguable since Im 19 and I dunno your age because it does not matter. And I have answers ... I have answered to every "No" from you guys. Whats the difference between homosexual and gay ? Maybe serious question ... and it does not matter what I am.
This is about Tobi/Madara not my sexual orientation and I use that avatar because of that red blindfold not his chest.

1.- You dont give proofs, just your way of understanding the manga and presumtions about the interactions of certain characters.(Dialogues and emotions), there is nothing certain for us readers about Tobi's identity yet, accept it.
2.- I wont post the large amount of things that makes me think he is not Madara, its in most of the theorys in this site in little hints Kishimoto put in the manga. BUt like i said i could be wrong like you. So please put Theory in your thread title, as it is nothing more.
3.- I asked about your sexual orientation to know the person im discussing this matter with, if i know you better i could avoid offending you for any reason(maybe you are gay or a girl, etc), my treatment would be less agressive if you are girl for example.
4- Im 23, i thought you were like 16 though, my mistake.
5.- About Kabuto's secret, its pretty obvious he knows Tobi is not Madara, i dont know what transaltion you were reading, maybe just english, i have read 8 from 4 languages, in everyone i get the same feeling.

Have a nice day.

 

[tiptop]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

He cant lost his KKG .. its in his DNA/blood. They are revived without any wounds/harms they had in life. So Izuna died blind but would/will be revived with eyes.
Kakashi broke Zabuza's arms, Naruto made a mess from Kakuzu with his FRS and while revived they are OK. Read again the chapter when Kabuto explained how the technique works.

another good example, look at how sasori has his REAL body whereby he modified and threw away bodyparts looooong time ago before he died.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate Theory that Tobi is indeed Madara

1.- You dont give proofs, just your way of understanding the manga and presumtions about the interactions of certain characters.(Dialogues and emotions), there is nothing certain for us readers about Tobi's identity yet, accept it.
2.- I wont post the large amount of things that makes me think he is not Madara, its in most of the theorys in this site in little hints Kishimoto put in the manga. BUt like i said i could be wrong like you. So please put Theory in your thread title, as it is nothing more.
3.- I asked about your sexual orientation to know the person im discussing this matter with, if i know you better i could avoid offending you for any reason(maybe you are gay or a girl, etc), my treatment would be less agressive if you are girl for example.
4- Im 23, i thought you were like 16 though, my mistake.
5.- About Kabuto's secret, its pretty obvious he knows Tobi is not Madara, i dont know what transaltion you were reading, maybe just english, i have read 8 from 4 languages, in everyone i get the same feeling.

Have a nice day.

1. sorry then you are right ... but its my assumption he is Madara because who else Tobi could be ? But now I accept it ... unknown till revealed ... but it would be stupid of Kishi to play like this with multiple personas.
Maybe we all will be surprised at last.
2. Ok I will change the name of the thread if its enough to make you happy ... but how to do so?
3. Im a boy and bisexual if you are that interested, but as I said .. the avatar is not due to that
4. 19, I thought 16 as well, sorry then.
5. Thats weird because what I read translates differently. Will check it up more. Maybe one of us is looking too deep into all of that.
Have a nice day as well.

EDIT:
@tiptop, thanks : D at least you see it

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

he never said "dont worry i wont tell anyone when he summoned that 6th coffin"
that was later .. you guys have things mixed up so no surprise you have these crazy thoughts. I have read that chapter 546855 times and a while ago again and all translations and review on wiki ... no such things

kabuto said madara uchiha u truly r in ur own leauge then tobi replies by saying wise guy...kabuto was being sarcastic when he called him madara uchiha. read it in chapter 490 page 6. and he did say dont worry i hav not told a soul after he summoned the 6 coffion proof is in the chapter i gave u.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Oh! That ? I dont see him being sarcastic in that scene ... but it is just me

 

[ForumUser12]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Sasuke2 are you looking some attention man all know tobi is madara end of discussion

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Sasuke2 are you looking some attention man all know tobi is madara end of discussion

Oh, really ? Thats why they disagree with me.
Most people believe that Tobi = Madara, but there are still some thinking otherwise.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Kisame never knew the original Madara for starters nor the way he looked phisically, there is not much info about Tobi back then when he was controlling the Mizukage, could of showed Kisame the same face back then telling he was Madara Uchiha, the only things we currently know are that he has Sharingan, S/T jutsu, met Danzo in the Uchiha Massacre, claims to have given( helped in mastering) Nagato the Rin'negan, has Hashirama DNA, can use Izanagi, gave up one Sharingan eye for Rin'negan, parts of his body are similar to Zetsu, was afraid of Itachi, met Itachi just before the massacre, likes to change the storys(lies a lot), is using Sasuke, has a big secret probably related to his real identity(Kabuto coffin), recognizes some Sharingan abilities to be quite unique( he gave the paths a sharingan eye), knows the secrets of the Sharingan but never showed a MS ability, was Itachi's mentor at some point, wants to take over the world with Mugen Tsukuyomi.

okay so then explain why Itachi Uchiha said he was alive and breathing. itachi knows hes madara. also its not quite clear but when sasuke went into narutos mind the fox said sasuke reminded him of madara. and that he was controlled by that sharingan. he could of been talking about the attack 16 yrs ago or just when the 1st was around. also when the fox was being controlled 16yrs ago when madara put the sharingan on the Fox recgnozied him cuz hes been controlled by him before. and as far as we know madara was the only uchiha to control the fox with the sharingan

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

okay so then explain why Itachi Uchiha said he was alive and breathing. itachi knows hes madara. also its not quite clear but when sasuke went into narutos mind the fox said sasuke reminded him of madara. and that he was controlled by that sharingan. he could of been talking about the attack 16 yrs ago or just when the 1st was around. also when the fox was being controlled 16yrs ago when madara put the sharingan on the Fox recgnozied him cuz hes been controlled by him before. and as far as we know madara was the only uchiha to control the fox with the sharingan

Could be someone else with Uchiha Madara's eyes, as far as we know we dont know what happened to Madara after the war, and he presented himself with a mask to Itachi, Maybe Itachi just sensed Madara's Sharingan, not his face in particular, same with the Kyubi.

 

[junior 20]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

madara is tobi,tobi is madara

 

[iHiruzen]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

i just want to make somthin clear to everyone..madara was older than the 3rd hokage when he was controlling the mizukage, and at that time i think tsunade was probly a teen or younger...now tsunade is super old, so imagine how madara would look, he couldnt have changed from when he was controlling the mizukage or else he would be unreckonizable, because of his extremely old age..and i never seen where madara was refered to as tobi when he was controlling the mizukage, and btw tobi is just a alias..and i kno about hashirama's cells and everything, but he still would be old old like older than hiruzen, who looks sorta different when he was younger, so anyways i think evryone kno's madara is tobi lol theres no need for a investigation..and this is my first post..hi everyone ^.^

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

okay so then explain why Itachi Uchiha said he was alive and breathing. itachi knows hes madara. also its not quite clear but when sasuke went into narutos mind the fox said sasuke reminded him of madara. and that he was controlled by that sharingan. he could of been talking about the attack 16 yrs ago or just when the 1st was around. also when the fox was being controlled 16yrs ago when madara put the sharingan on the Fox recgnozied him cuz hes been controlled by him before. and as far as we know madara was the only uchiha to control the fox with the sharingan

This

Could be someone else with Uchiha Madara's eyes, as far as we know we dont know what happened to Madara after the war, and he presented himself with a mask to Itachi, Maybe Itachi just sensed Madara's Sharingan, not his face in particular, same with the Kyubi.

So ur saying that Tobi is someone with eyes of Madara ? But who ? Lets theorize, shall we ? : D
What if Izuna has not died and then came and took his eyes back from Madara's corpse ? Or its Kagami as you guys say ... but why would he do such things ? he was a good guy, wasnt he ? Even Danzo looked like a villain and in the end it turned out that all wrong thing he has done were for the higher good.

madara is tobi,tobi is madara

I think this, but I can be wrong

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

i just want to make somthin clear to everyone..madara was older than the 3rd hokage when he was controlling the mizukage, and at that time i think tsunade was probly a teen or younger...now tsunade is super old, so imagine how madara would look, he couldnt have changed from when he was controlling the mizukage or else he would be unreckonizable, because of his extremely old age..and i never seen where madara was refered to as tobi when he was controlling the mizukage, and btw tobi is just a alias..and i kno about hashirama's cells and everything, but he still would be old old like older than hiruzen, who looks sorta different when he was younger, so anyways i think evryone kno's madara is tobi lol theres no need for a investigation..and this is my first post..hi everyone ^.^

What are you talking about ? Kisame met "Madara/Tobi" when he was like 20 and he died in his 30s. Tsunade is 54 so -10 ... how is that teen or younger ?