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[Kinimaster]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

zetsu never called him nonthing else besides tobi

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I can speak many languages, and in every manga its something related to Tobi's secret so he can relax that Kabuto its not going to tell anyone, right after, he calls Tobi "Madara" in a suspicious way like agreeing to carry on with the charade, hence Tobi saying he is a wise guy or someone intelligent(depends on the translation). If Izuna is the body then Tobi couldnt care less and its not a personal secret of his, Izuna was meant t be dead according with everything said in the manga, he most likely fears that his true identity would be revealed, thats it what makes most people think that its Madara's body and Tobi someone(something) else.

 

[Tartarus]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

1. It is ... 1st and 2nd used to call Hiruzen "Saru" = monkey
2. yeah ... everyone will take him seriously and will respect "how powerful" he is supposed to be when his face looks like shit
3. what secret ?

then how would Kisame have recognized him if his face was so disfigured in the first place?

 

[natssuu]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

''Ultimate proof'' . That just proofs that Tobi and the guy who controlled the 4th Mizukage are the same person. We don't know when it happened and we don't know if he was young then. But even if he was young when he controlled 4th, my theory still wouldn't be wrong.

 

[Disquiet]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Look at your grandpa's face and add many scars and wounds

awww, madara's a bit sensitive, don't want anybody picking with him don't worry madara, you are beautiful no matter what they say, christina says so. :rofl:

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

for now lets just stick with TOBI=MADARA untill further explanation

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

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You are seeing too much into that, I have read all the translations of that ... Kabuto just revived someone Madara is scared of - Izuna
Izuna and Madara were:
-Equals in everything
-Madara is now a mere shell of himself, no that powerful
-Izuna know Madara's secrets
-If Kabuto will let him free, Izuna will have his revenge
-Izuna will be revived with MS (Madara's EMS eyes were Izuna's to begin with, so revived Izuna will have these)
I think enough of reasons to be scared

then how would Kisame have recognized him if his face was so disfigured in the first place?

Im saying his face is ugly from scars and wounds but still recognizable as Uchiha Madara.

awww, madara's a bit sensitive, don't want anybody picking with him don't worry madara, you are beautiful no matter what they say, christina says so. :rofl:

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for now lets just stick with TOBI=MADARA untill further explanation

No need for explanation ... Tobi = Madara is now, a year later, two years later, after Naruto manga's end, and even after Kishi's death.
Kishi is not a clown ... Its not like:
"Hello Im a new Akatsuki member!" and my name is:

-Im Tobi!
-No, no ... Im Uchiha Madara!
-(Taking off the mask) Death upon you! Im Obito and I will kill The Boulder and will have my revenge!
-(It was just transformation technique) My "true" identity is Hashirama Senju and now I laugh hard
-Now for real ... Im Kishimoto! Never heard of plastic surgery ???!!!

See ? no need for few hidden personas ... He came as Tobi and revealed himself to be Uchiha Madara ... dont look that much into that.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

No need for explanation ... Tobi = Madara is now, a year later, two years later, after Naruto manga's end, and even after Kishi's death.
Kishi is not a clown ... Its not like:
"Hello Im a new Akatsuki member!" and my name is:

-Im Tobi!
-No, no ... Im Uchiha Madara!
-(Taking off the mask) Death upon you! Im Obito and I will kill The Boulder and will have my revenge!
-(It was just transformation technique) My "true" identity is Hashirama Senju and now I laugh hard
-Now for real ... Im Kishimoto! Never heard of plastic surgery ???!!!

See ? no need for few hidden personas ... He came as Tobi and revealed himself to be Uchiha Madara ... dont look that much into that.

:rofl:

OT: yeah i know but thats why i said for now he is madara since there is a possibility that he was another person judging how kabuto talk to him "excuse me you go by madara these days dont u"

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

:rofl:

OT: yeah i know but thats why i said for now he is madara since there is a possibility that he was another person judging how kabuto talk to him "excuse me you go by madara these days dont u"

LOL ... Madara was not aware that Kabuto know that Tobi = Madara thats why he said that. Only Nagato/Yahiko,Konan,Kisame and Itachi were aware of his identity. So Madara was surprised that Kabuto know a thing or two.

 

[tiptop]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

When Tobi was controlling Mizukage Yagura, he revealed his face to Kisame.
Later he did the same and Kisame called him Madara Uchiha.

So what of this ?
-Its indeed Madara
-When Kisame did recognize the man behind the mask as Uchiha Madara, his face must not be that different from when he was still young if its recognizable.

So it probably does not look "that" old like those fan made images.
I actually believe that Madara still look the same from time he was "defeated" by Hashirama ... he posses 1st DNA in his own body, Tsunade stated Madara is immortal due to that thus he is no longer aging.
Nuff said!

im with you on that one bro.
heck i was recently thinking; what if madara gained a scar to the face when he fought hashirama that made it easier for kisame to distinguish the similarities between madara and the guy with the mask although everything else has changed. i actually think he is using a zetsu clone as a body that he then infused hashiramas and his own dna with that and gave it a balanced ratio of the two that made it more possible for him to do izinagi efficiently.

 

[Disquiet]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

LOL ... Madara was not aware that Kabuto know that Tobi = Madara thats why he said that. Only Nagato/Yahiko,Konan,Kisame and Itachi were aware of his identity. So Madara was surprised that Kabuto know a thing or two.

you don't understand that it's many things that makes people believe this,one of then is that he hides his face which kinda implies he has something to hide besides his ugly face and there's still what kabuto said, "don't worry, I won't tell anyone" what does that suppose to mean? does it mean" I won't tell anyone that I brought back s06p",unlikely since that won't bother madara much,is it "don't worry, I won't tell anybody that I brought back your brother" lol,that's unlikely too, by kabuto's words it's obvious that it's not aboout how strong the 6th coffin person may be but it's about "information" that tobi does not want anyone to know

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

im with you on that one bro.
heck i was recently thinking; what if madara gained a scar to the face when he fought hashirama that made it easier for kisame to distinguish the similarities between madara and the guy with the mask although everything else has changed. i actually think he is using a zetsu clone as a body that he then infused hashiramas and his own dna with that and gave it a balanced ratio of the two that made it more possible for him to do izinagi efficiently.

I dont think so that Tobi/Madara is Zetsu clone ... he is just "healing/repairing" his damaged parts with "Zetsu" mass

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

you don't understand that it's many things that makes people believe this,one of then is that he hides his face which kinda implies he has something to hide besides his ugly face and there's still what kabuto said, "don't worry, I won't tell anyone" what does that suppose to mean? does it mean" I won't tell anyone that I brought back s06p",unlikely since that won't bother madara much,is it "don't worry, I won't tell anybody that I brought back your brother" lol,that's unlikely too, by kabuto's words it's obvious that it's not aboout how strong the 6th coffin person may be but it's about "information" that tobi does not want anyone to know

Madara's weakness is Kabuto's "anti-hashirama poison" and most likely Kyubi's chakra since it change people with Hashirama's power into trees.
This he won't tell anyone.
And Kakashi has mask too, is he a Mutant Ninja Turtle ?

 

[Maina Deah]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

You got a point there, Madara after decades maybe still the same.

Tobi is Madara, Madara used that Tobi thingy name when he's in low profile.
Zetsu calling Madara Tobi probably because he's used to it. Well who knows, its wasn't mentioned and everything is just an assumption.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Tobi is Madara, Madara used that Tobi thingy name when he's in low profile.
Zetsu calling Madara Tobi probably because he's used to it.

finally common sense : D

 

[tiptop]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

I dont think so that Tobi/Madara is Zetsu clone ... he is just "healing/repairing" his damaged parts with "Zetsu" mass

yeah that makes abit more sense actually

 

[Maina Deah]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

finally common sense : D

you really got point there
and thanks btw

 

[Disquiet]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Madara's weakness is Kabuto's "anti-hashirama poison" and most likely Kyubi's chakra since it change people with Hashirama's power into trees.
This he won't tell anyone.
And Kakashi has mask too, is he a Mutant Ninja Turtle ?

read the manga again, he clearly brings up the sixth coffin, show whoever it is to madara, and then after madara is surprised, he says "don't worry, I won't tell anyone" and as for kakashi, I dont know, maybe he's ugly, lol

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

read the manga again, he clearly brings up the sixth coffin, show whoever it is to madara, and then after madara is surprised, he says "don't worry, I won't tell anyone" and as for kakashi, I dont know, maybe he's ugly, lol

he never said "dont worry i wont tell anyone when he summoned that 6th coffin"
that was later .. you guys have things mixed up so no surprise you have these crazy thoughts. I have read that chapter 546855 times and a while ago again and all translations and review on wiki ... no such things

 

[Disquiet]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

he never said "dont worry i wont tell anyone when he summoned that 6th coffin"
that was later .. you guys have things mixed up so no surprise you have these crazy thoughts. I have read that chapter 546855 times and a while ago again and all translations and review on wiki ... no such things

okay, I was sure he said "don't worry, I won't tell you anything" but it's pointless now since it will be so hard for me to find it. but anyway it doesn't change anything because first madara says "th..thats" and then kabuto says "anyway,you can relax,I haven't told a soul" so same scenario, it is obviously information because not telling anybody that he resurrected somebody strong would not harm madara,I mean you SHOULD be able to see it,it's very clear that kabuto holds information and that information has something to do with the identity of the 6th coffin,and THAT is what scared madara chapter 490

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

okay, I was sure he said "don't worry, I won't tell you anything" but it's pointless now since it will be so hard for me to find it. but anyway it doesn't change anything because first madara says "th..thats" and then kabuto says "anyway,you can relax,I haven't told a soul" so same scenario, it is obviously information because not telling anybody that he resurrected somebody strong would not harm madara,I mean you SHOULD be able to see it,it's very clear that kabuto holds information and that information has something to do with the identity of the 6th coffin,and THAT is what scared madara chapter 490

read some posts of mine ago, its Izuna