[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[pungzeyez]

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pungzeyez
Thats one hell of a theory... I must say that it is highly possible...

tnx... kind of bored here coz its summer here and i read again the manga... well i began suspecting tobi is same age of danzo when he knew about the father of that turune... well if he was madara its imposible he could knew him. coz of he was exile himself and gap of there age gap of there difference are so far ...

Did you make a second account just to post on your own theory...

this is my 1st time here

 

[ALinkToTheZack]

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Pretty good theory. The probably with your theory is that Uchiha Kagami was only briefly introduced and hasn't played a part in the story at all. In fact, most people probably don't even remember that he existed as a character. If Kishi begins revealing more about the elders, then perhaps your theory will carry more weight.

 

[TheMrVader]

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I like it. Guess we shall wait and see!

 

[AntiHero]

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Pretty good theory. The probably with your theory is that Uchiha Kagami was only briefly introduced and hasn't played a part in the story at all. In fact, most people probably don't even remember that he existed as a character. If Kishi begins revealing more about the elders, then perhaps your theory will carry more weight.

Im pretty sure if Susake is going to get his even with the leaf then his gonna hafta kill the elders. thats when we'll find out more about Uchiha Kagami...

 

[Yondaime Raikage]

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This is a good theory but something bugs me...how did that uchida you accused of being tobi obtain the first's dna? The elder groups were students, were too young and weak back then to be at the level of a hokage to steal the first's dna.

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[Sentinel]

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This is a good theory but something bugs me...how did that uchida you accused of being tobi obtain the first's dna? The elder groups were students, were too young and weak back then to be at the level of a hokage to steal the first's dna.

I was thinking the same thing after reading the theory, it's the only thing that doesn't fit yet.other than that it's a very good theory, the first one that makes tobi to be somone other then madara and that makes some sence. I will hold this theory in thought and see what happens in the story, I give you probable

 

[trashcan2009]

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I forgot that the claimed to have gotten the 1st dna in the fight but he could have easily have gotten it from orochimaru like danzo did as to why he wanted yamato

 

[Kinimaster]

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IMPRESSIVE, i had my theory of him being Izuna but i think your theory along with your manga observation is far more complete. Great one, still not 100% sure though.

 

[AntiHero]

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This is a good theory but something bugs me...how did that uchida you accused of being tobi obtain the first's dna? The elder groups were students, were too young and weak back then to be at the level of a hokage to steal the first's dna.

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That could've been the real madara who fought the 1st and died. Zetsu could've found Madara and ate his body merging the two into 1. Then used Kagami Uchiha as a vessel for madara's mind of to carry out the moons eye plan...

 

[Anub]

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Good theory but a few problems:

1. Why wouldn't Minato recognize his powers, seeing how there's a high chance Minato knew Kagami well? Also Minato didn't think anyone else could be that powerful, which means a strong indication is Minato's judgement.
2. Why wouldn't Kakashi's Kamui work in Kagami?
3. Why would Danzo not try to appeal to his former teammate when he was losing the fight? Also I remember him calling him Madara. He would know of his time-space if it were Kagami.
4. Why would Itachi believe that he is Madara? He's never jumping to conclusions without any sort of proof.
5. Why would the fox recognize Kagami? I don't believe they ever had any encounters.

 

[meimei]

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Well thought-out argument you present... nice one

 

[cryhwks]

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I like this theory. & honestly I never even looked twice at that guy. But what you have make's much sense & you can also make out to why he's called Tobi. Because maybe that's what he called Tobirama & maybe that was like his best friend.

& I do believe that Kishi will throw us a curve ball because if he is just Madara then why would Kishi keep his Mask on. & I think doing something like this making Madara/Tobi a character we only really saw once would be something he would do.

 

[pungzeyez]

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Good theory but a few problems:

1. Why wouldn't Minato recognize his powers, seeing how there's a high chance Minato knew Kagami well? Also Minato didn't think anyone else could be that powerful, which means a strong indication is Minato's judgement.
2. Why wouldn't Kakashi's Kamui work in Kagami?
3. Why would Danzo not try to appeal to his former teammate when he was losing the fight? Also I remember him calling him Madara. He would know of his time-space if it were Kagami.
4. Why would Itachi believe that he is Madara? He's never jumping to conclusions without any sort of proof.
5. Why would the fox recognize Kagami? I don't believe they ever had any encounters.

there were many high rank ninja were not have tracking ability... example danzo thats why he brought one of the yamanaka clan has the ability of tracking ability. why itachi calling him madara... like i said he was a good lier. like sasuke he was fooled by his lie just to switch on his side. and about the 9tail he was being genjutsu all the time while attacking the konoha. and when the 9 tail make on his sense there were no more tobi... like the other ninja he was also fooled. =)

 

[jruiz]

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I regret opening the thread. You have spoiled the manga for me and I have no more interest reading it. Time to delete my NB account.....
He said spoilers in the title so why look. Anyway I agree with you because you could also mention when he said I'm a former shell of myself as more proof. Good theory and it makes since seeing as though the guy was missing in action during the fight

This is the most hard evidence I have , so don’t dare to open this because you will spoiled reading naruto. You Might lose interest reading naruto. there is witness but she was killed by tobi.

sarcasm....

 

[tufan]

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Though you have lots of theory, you do NOT have any solid evidence.
Maybe kishi wants to play with us by keeping his face covered.
AND considering tobi's skills and powers, only uchiha madara (and his bro if he wasnt dead) can be tobi among uchihas.
The problem is anything can be true for tobi since his face is not seen yet.

 

[YetiCrab]

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It would be awesome if Tobi was kakashi, and he just manipulated everyone to achieve world domination

 

[pungzeyez]

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It would be awesome if Tobi was kakashi, and he just manipulated everyone to achieve world domination

lolz =)O.OO.O

 

[Anub]

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there were many high rank ninja were not have tracking ability... example danzo thats why he brought one of the yamanaka clan has the ability of tracking ability. why itachi calling him madara... like i said he was a good lier. like sasuke he was fooled by his lie just to switch on his side. and about the 9tail he was being genjutsu all the time while attacking the konoha. and when the 9 tail make on his sense there were no more tobi... like the other ninja he was also fooled. =)

I don't think those counter-arguments are strong enough.

About Itachi calling him Madara. I have my doubts that Itachi can be fooled. Itachi would know if there is a stronger sharingan presence than his. Especially when he and Tobi teamed up to destroy their clan. Which brings me to a strong conclusion: there's no real reason for Kagami to try and eliminate the whole clan.

The fox wasn't in a genjutsu the whole time. The fox recognized Tobi as Madara (most likely) and said "you...". That moment is decisive in finding who Tobi is because we know for sure that he had previous encounters with Tobi. Also when the fox sensed Sasuke's chakra, he said that his chakra is colder than uchiha madara's (or something between those lines, I haven't checked) and that seems to be a pretty clear connection.

I think the mystery that we should try to solve is why would Madara hide his face and why the facial change, instead of trying to find new uchiha that can fit for the part of Tobi.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

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i like the theory but the whole 1st dna throws it off and how do you explain kagami gaining time space ninjutsu not saying he has ems and how he could read the tablet without the ems

 

[JiraiyaTheToad Sage]

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That was a very good theory. It could vey well be possible. It would make for a great mystery. When we finally do find out who he really is, alot of people will be shocked. But I hope it is Madara.