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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

It's a pleasure m y friend; It's one of the more pausable theories that I've heard in a while, I mean it perfectly explains Tobi's reaction to the 6th Coffin
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

It's a pleasure m y friend; It's one of the more pausable theories that I've heard in a while, I mean it perfectly explains Tobi's reaction to the 6th Coffin
right. right... it would also explain why he's still hiding his face even tho everybody knows that he's "supposedly" Madara, and half way explains the techs we see him use, him(Kagami Uchiha) being the student of one of the best space time jutsu users, the 2nd hokage... Im not saying madara wouldn't be capable of these same techs/jutsu we see "Tobi" use but if tobi isn't madara it would explain why/how he(kagami uchiha) learned and knows such an advanced space time techs/jutsus. thats why i have faith in the theory i posted above there are a lot of SUBTLE clues pointing in kagami's "general" derection.lol...and we DO KNOW how Kishi-sama likes to be subtle about his BIG plot twists, and that would be a big one. i could see it panning out different ways tho too, i've also seen alot of good theories by other people, this is just the theory i like best.

im not the only one who thought this up either apparently others have too... Anyway... at least it makes more sense then a half crushed obito.lol.
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

what i dont get is if it really is madara why the hell would he waste a perfectly good sharingan by wearing a mask with one eye hole. good theory well thought out
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

what i dont get is if it really is madara why the hell would he waste a perfectly good sharingan by wearing a mask with one eye hole. good theory well thought out
thank you, you also make another good point. why would "MADARA" waste the other sharingan, why where the mask a all?
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

i think this is an excellent theory. if you look in naruto ep 503 the panel where 3rd is standing with bunch of ninjas, you can see homura, koharu, and torifu alongside him. however, kagami uchiha and danzo shimura is nowhere to be seen. wonder where could they've been?
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

i think this is an excellent theory. if you look in naruto ep 503 the panel where 3rd is standing with bunch of ninjas, you can see homura, koharu, and torifu alongside him. however, kagami uchiha and danzo shimura is nowhere to be seen. wonder where could they've been?
thanks, and wow. after seeing your post i went to check it out and it was just as you say i never woulda caught that. you make a good point too, why would the rest of his team mates be there and not those two? one could argue this fact and say that they were off somewhere else but i don't think Kishi woulda shown everyone else and not show them. Kishi sama doesn't really do things(or not do/show things) for no reason, there's usually a reason or plot twist behind his actions. so yea, good post Schmack... good eye too.
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Very nice theory. Could be true. But this theory also provokes new questions as:
Why would Kagami turn his back against the Village?
Why does he hide his face and we see only one Sharingan?
Madara was supposed to know how to control Kyuubi.
How does he know about Madara's "biography" and the story of the S06P(It could be tablet for the 2nd one)?
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

I think this is a plausable theory. If this does turn out to be true, then I would like to know the answers to all the questions have asked. Would also like to know why he would use madara's name except for his reputation.
 

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Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Great theory but in the last coffin thing, it could be the 1st hokage..

The man w/c Madara feared :))

but ur theory is possible
 

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Is tobi really madara???

From the start i never believed that tobi was really madara, alot of his story just sound out of wack if you ask me. Everybody thinks your madara right so why still hide behind mask if the world knows your identity why still have the mask?

When kabuto meets up with tobi he said

"I would come greet you, tobi. Excuse me... You go by madara these days dont you."
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when tobi thinks of saying no to kabuto's offer of getting sasuke, kabuto summons someone who totally shocks tobi???

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Kabuto says "You can relax. I haven't told a soul."

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I'm thinking who's in the casket that has tobi so stretched out like that? At first i was thinking The Sage of the 6 paths but why would Kabuto say relax i have'nt told a soul? I think that's the real madara Or Izuna ,think about it tobi already has a life like puppet of the Shodaime and who would hand over Rikudō that's like the until weapon. It seems like kabuto is trying to black-mail him or something and the only way to do that is by having a secret lieing around if you ask me.


The latest manga zetsu addressed him as tobi instead of madara I find that kinda strange if you ask me...
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I really don't think tobi is who he says he is i think either zetsu or someone else is still pulling the strings for Akatsuki cause something really seem funny if you ask me.
 

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Re: Is tobi really madara???

there is definitly something strange about Tobi...there is lots of evidence that points to Tobi really being Madara, but you cant ignore what Kabuto said, and even Zetsu calls him Tobi in the latest chapter.

There must be a reason he keeps the mask on. He says he is Madara, so why wear the mask and hide his face?

When he fought Minato, his arm was very zetsu like, it almost comes off at one point, looking like its melting. chapter 503 page 3 bottom left panel, and also chapter 503 page 4.

Later we can see him replacing his arm, while standing next to some zetsu spikes after he loses an arm to Fu and Torune.

Could he be Madara with a Zetsu half? Could it be someone pretending to be Madara, or could it be Izuna? We shall find out soon I hope.
 

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Re: Is tobi really madara???

There is definitely something strange about Tobi ,or as most people refer to him Madara, but then again it could be nothing who knows but I hope we find out soon.
 

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Re: Is tobi really madara???

well orochimaru had files on the akatsuki and kabuto was a spy and therefore he knew about tobi, but he did not know that tobi just was a pseudonym for madara to use. tobi does not simply exist in the manga anymore. he has indentified himself. and that 1st hokage statue or whatever is another proof that he is madara hence to having batteling him at the vally of ends. I think that zetsu plays a major part in madaras life-long survival. he is like a regenerate monster. right now zetsu is more mysterious than madara.
 

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Re: Is tobi really madara???

but you knw he summoned kyubi to attack konoha and controled it,someone without a mangekyo sharingan cnt do that...during konan fight he shows his left eye and that part was black colour,,so this makes me confuse...but one thing is clear,,he is someone with the mangekyo sharingan...thats for sure
 

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Re: Is tobi really madara???

but you knw he summoned kyubi to attack konoha and controled it,someone without a mangekyo sharingan cnt do that...during konan fight he shows his left eye and that part was black colour,,so this makes me confuse...but one thing is clear,,he is someone with the mangekyo sharingan...thats for sure
the eye was part black because he had just izinagi and his right eye was closing forever as a result. he is who he is
 
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