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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

It does indeed matter who he is, it's gotta make sense, what if Tobi was the Ichiraku Ramen guy?, lol The villian has to fit his actions, Izuna was the kind younger brother, and Madara was the cold hearted, hate filled, older one. The villian has to fit the plot :):):):):(:(:(:(:(:(
Lol. That's the thing, though. We all know it isn't gonna be someone like Teuchi (ramen guy I think), we kno it's someone with evil intent. But it just seems finding out who he is is more important than what he's doing and what he's gonna do xD

And yes I'm tired of people who think Madara is Naruto or something...

And I get what you're saying, no worries
 

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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

Someone who belives this theory, PLEASE explain me the following then:

1. Why did Tobi act so wired at the beginning? He is clumsy, silly and white Zetsu doesnt trust him. Dont tell me he just plays a role since they were alone when Tobi acted that way...
2. Why is Danzo refering to Tobi as Madara and not as Kagami, when they last met at the Uchia incident and Tobi tells so to Danzo, he should be able to refer him as Kagami and not Madara... absolutly no sense there
3. Itachi really is a smart boy and collected a lot of DATA, so you really thnik he fell for "i am madara" without proof?
4. The same for Minato...
5. And the same for the ****ing fox, how comes he recognizes Madara's chakra?
6. How did Kagami get the firsts DNA? I mean when the fight occured he was just a boy, so when did he get the DNA and who does he know so much about the fight?
7. MOST IMPORTANT: Kishi already revealed that Tobi is Madara in the additional databook 3, i dont think kishi would lie to his fans directly to make it more tense...

Rethink the whole theory please or reproof me please, i am willing to learn if i'm wrong!
 

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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

tobi is probably just a mixture of zetsu and madara because i think the black zetsu might have something to so with tobi space time tech.
 

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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

People like you make Kishimoto proud xD hardcore Naruto fan

The theory sounds possible.
I would take my vote back
And pick the first option instead
 
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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

Ok if Itachi says thats Madara than it is...
hehe but i bet somebody's gonna write but he couldve lied to itachi,unless itachi admits he saw his face and confirms its him (but then he could be using a an advanced transformation jutsu with zetsu).

anyways everyone in naruto world is calling him madara.so its madara until it says its not

"WITHOUT REAL PROOF ITS ALL MUMBO JUMBO THEORIES"O.O
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

Yep, personally I believe it's Madara, but there is no way to know until he says he is Madara
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

Yep, personally I believe it's Madara, but there is no way to know until he says he is Madara
Have you read the thread about some guy's theory? He thinks Tobi is another Uchiha named Kagami (I think)
His theory was very legit
He did his research o_•'

It a actually made me reconsider who I thought Tobi was.
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

Then why he (tobi/madara) wears masks? and who the last IWR coffin kabuto summon that made him afraid? where did he got the rinnegan , and why he give it to nagato?
and why he revealed himself after all these years? if he want the tailed monsters he could collected it from the very beginning.
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

Then why he (tobi/madara) wears masks? and who the last IWR coffin kabuto summon that made him afraid? where did he got the rinnegan , and why he give it to nagato?
and why he revealed himself after all these years? if he want the tailed monsters he could collected it from the very beginning.
Because he was still regarded as one of the most powerful sharingan users, he was presumed dead. If people think you are dead, there is no price on your head, there are no ninja being sent after you, and there is no village freaking out after you walk into it. Remember when Itachi and Kisame walked into Konoha? Everyone freaked out, and they had jounin on them within minutes. If Madara had done that, he would've probably gotten in unnoticed. To who is in the last coffin, perhaps his brother, he was really strong as well. So who knows on the coffin one. That one I can't say with any certainty. And he revealed himself because he could not further his eye of the moon plan without doing so. He has been playing "a game" with all of the Kages for years, and now that he has taken as many tailed beasts as he could have. And he knew that everyone else knew all about Akatsuki and their goals to get the Tailed Beasts. He knew that they would try and protect them. So he laid his cards on the table, said "It will go one of 2 ways, war, and I will take them after you are finished, or you give them up now, and let my plan happen." The whole reason there is a war right now is to draw out Naruto and Killer Bee, which is exactly what is happening, Madara is quickly getting set for a win, but plot no jutsu will prevent him, hopefully xdxd
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

im gonna put it like thiz ,,,,,,,,,,madara iz not obito.....foolz.......the right side of hiz face waz crushed by the rock.......madara got hiz right eye...........so scrached that .....and pull your shorts over your head and swallow......lolololol
 

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im gonna tell ya what tha verdict iz on thiz topic....tobi iz madara .....85 percent,,,,the 15 percent .........im working on it,,,,,,,tha reason i come to thiz iz........by paying attention........lets take zetsu for example,,,,,,,he has to halfs.......black zetsu and white zetsu,,,,,,they both have diffrent voices,,,,,,black got deep voice,,,,,,,white got normal voice,,,,,,,,,,now when tobi arrived he had that funny slimpy voice,,,,,,,,then when they showed tobi meeting with pain in tha tower he talked in hiz normal voice,,,,,,thats when he told pain ,,,,to hunt tha nine tails ,,,,,failure iz not an option,,,,my point that im making iz,,madara aint complete,,,,,,,,hes another form of zetsu,,,,,,,notice,,,,when hiz arm waz slashed off,,,,,,youll see tha white zetsu clay,,,,,,,,,,which describes how ,madara can slip threw hard surface like zetsu does,,but madara iz combining space tyme tecniques with zetsu tecnique,,,but madara iz more faster than zetsu,,,,,zetsu waz created by tha first hokage dna,,,,,,,madara iz useing a diffrent type of shape shift tecnique,,,,,,he just needs that power thatz need to be complete,,,,,he basicly absorbs powers,,,,,,just as saskae did with orochimaru,,,,hmmm,,,but that hasnt been shown yet,,,and thats what zetsu does he absorbs powers to regenerate,,,,,,madara iz useing manipulation to control darkness,,,,with a special mind transfer jutsu,,,,,,,,which boils down to him being a medium zetsu,,,but hes not zetsu letz get that clear,,,,notice,,,i say medium becuz madara iz a stronger different form than zetsu,,,,, zetsu iz weak in battle madara says thiz him self,,,,,,zetsu iz only good for gorilla tatics my point iz madara iz medium zetsu thats more advanced and with far more abilitys then normal zetsu,,,,and madara iz not complete thatsz why hes a medium, but tha same az zetsu ,i come to belive that one half iz madara and tha other half tobi,,just like white zetsu ,,and black zetsu hmm,,my theory,,,,i think one half of madara body iz feeding from tobi.....just as white zetsu and black zetsu ,,when white zetsu breaks from black zetsu,,they only can stay detatched for a limited tyme becuz they must feed,,,each other,,,so i think thats tha same going on with madara thats why we only seen one half of hiz face,,,,,until he put tha rinnegan in hiz left,eye,,which can explain why madara lived so long,,,hmmmm,,,notice,,,,when nagato use that tecnique to bring tha village back to life,,,,,,madara waz mad becuz that tecnique waz actually for madara to become complete,become one. untill tha tyme waz right,,,,naruto beating pain ,,,,,deffintly slowed madara down,thats where saskae come in,,,,,hes gotta be one,,,with gedo mazo ,hes trying to use saskae,,, but,,,,dont forget saskae iz a genius with brillance,,hews gonna use madara,,,,to tha best of his abilitys,,saskae plays chess.. not checkers,,tha young generation always surpass tha old,,,,,itachi iz brillant for hiz tatical mind set on thinking 10 moves ahead,,,,,,but dont sleep on saskae ,,very clever,,,,,,,thiz iz a 2 be continued,,,,,dont wanna spoil your appeitite
 
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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

im gonna tell ya what tha verdict iz on thiz topic....tobi iz madara .....85 percent,,,,the 15 percent .........im working on it,,,,,,,tha reason i come to thiz iz........by paying attention........lets take zetsu for example,,,,,,,he has to halfs.......black zetsu and white zetsu,,,,,,they both have diffrent voices,,,,,,black got deep voice,,,,,,,white got normal voice,,,,,,,,,,now when tobi arrived he had that funny slimpy voice,,,,,,,,then when they showed tobi meeting with pain in tha tower he talked in hiz normal voice,,,,,,thats when he told pain ,,,,to hunt tha nine tails ,,,,,failure iz not an option,,,,my point that im making iz,,madara aint complete,,,,,,,,hes another form of zetsu,,,,,,,notice,,,,when hiz arm waz slashed off,,,,,,youll see tha white zetsu clay,,,,,,,,,,which describes how ,madara can slip threw hard surface like zetsu does,,,,,but madara iz more faster than zetsu,,,,,zetsu waz created by tha first hokage dna,,,,,,,madara iz useing a diffrent type of shape shift tecnique,,,,,,he just needs that power thatz need to be complete,,,,,he basicly absorbs powers,,,,,,just as saskae did with orochimaru,,,,hmmm,,,but that hasnt been shown yet,,,and thats what zetsu does he absorbs powers to regenerate,,,,,,madara iz useing manipulation to control darkness,,,,with a special mind transfer jutsu,,,,,,,,which boils down to him being a a medium zetsu,,notice when nagato use that tecnique to bring tha village back to life,,,,,,madara waz mad becuz that tecnique waz actually for madara to become complete,untill tha tyme waz right,,,,naruto beating pain ,,,,,deffintly slowed madara down,thats where saskae come in,,,,,hes gotta be one,,,with gedo maza ,hes trying to use saskae,,, but,,,,dont forget saskae iz a genius with brillance,,hews gonna use madara,,,,to tha best of his abiltys,,saskae plays chess.. not checkers,,tha young generation always surpass tha old,,,,,itachi iz brillant for hiz tatical mind set on thinking 10 moves ahead,,,,,,but dont sleep on saskae ,,very clever,,,,,,,thiz iz a 2 be continued,,,,,dont wanna spoil your appaitite
Trust me, my appetite, along with my eyes, were spoiled after reading that. First of all, spellcheck, it's a godsend for stupid people xd
Second of all, Tobi isn't zetsu because it doesn't make sense. So there are multiple zetsu's that all have different minds and are different people? White zetsu was made from harashima DNA, probably by the order of Tobi to further his eye of the Moon plan. And you can't compare how Zetsu goes through the ground to Tobi's space time jutsu. It is 2 different techniques, used by 2 different people, who are not different versions of each other... :flaw:
 
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Trust me, my appetite, along with my eyes, were spoiled after reading that. First of all, spellcheck, it's a godsend for stupid people xd
Second of all, Tobi isn't zetsu because it doesn't make sense. So there are multiple zetsu's that all have different minds and are different people? White zetsu was made from harashima DNA, probably by the order of Tobi to further his eye of the Moon plan. And you can't compare how Zetsu goes through the ground to Tobi's space time jutsu. It is 2 different techniques, used by 2 different people, who are not different versions of each other... :flaw:
dude. no need to be so harsh. we are just therieizing here.:|
 

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Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

One thing I noticed on alot of theories is why would Kagami be scared of the final coffin if it was indeed Madara in there. So what? It would get released that he is not Uchiha Madara, but instead, another Uchiha they know even LESS about. That almost seems like a plus. Why would he care, after all this time, if his secret would be revealed. It wouldn't harm him in any way. Kabuto knows about Madara, he probably has never even heard of Kagami. So that is one thing I see as a hole in your "theory". It definetly has some merit to it, but not enough to swear by it. Until the words come out of tobi's mouth "I am Uchiha Madara" or "I am Uchiha Kagami" then it is a mystery, and no one can say for sure.
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

he is tobi, madara, and the 2nd sage of 6 paths. they say so! and pain/nagato is the 3rd!
So he is Tobi, Madara, and another Sage of 6 Paths we've never heard about, wrapped up in one badass, unbeatable power? This doesn't make sense because 3 people can't be in the same body. And if he had the power of the sage of 6 paths, he would have the rinnegan, and there would be no need to get it from Nagato. Also, he probably could easily collect the tailed beasts, there would be no need to form the Akatsuki and have them go get them for him. He would do it himself because who could stop him? Not Minato, nor any other Kage. Also, being a So6P means you get mastery over all the elements, so why have we only seen him do Space/Time Jutsu and knockoff jutsu? It seems to me that doesn't make sense either. As for Nagato being the 3rd, No, just no...I want to tie you to a chair, and force you to watch the anime/read the manga to show you why that statement is soooo wrong :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

I don't agree with any of the aforementioned theories and I'm still wondering of the persona beneath the mask...

but you are not correct either...nagato is the thrid of Sage of sixth paths...

refer chapter 510...
 

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Re: To everyone who thinks they know who Tobi really is....

first off all you bigg dummy,,,,,,,i didnt say he waz zetsu ,,,,,,,,,i said hes another form of zetsu,,,,,which means hiz body iz made from zetsu cells and the first hokage cells........recheck what i said ..........,,before you start running your mouth pay attention,,,,,,your probaly in ya room........with daisy dukes on ,,with a green tank top,,,,making ugly faces to your self in tha mirror,,,,,screaming GO NARUTO,,,,,,,,get ya mind right...lol
 
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If you are talking about the sentence where he said "Pain/Nagato is the 3rd!" I think what he meant is nagato is the third hokage, as using those numbers is usually how they refer to the Kages "The 4th, etc" If he did mean the third sage, my bad, it didn't come across like that
 

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first off all you bigg dummy,,,,,,,i didnt say he waz zetsu ,,,,,,,,,i said hes another form of zetsu,,,,,which means hiz body iz made from zetsu cells and the first hokage cells........recheck what i said ..........,,before you start running your mouth pay attention,,,,,,your probaly in ya room........with daisy dukes on ,,with a green tank top,,,,making ugly faces to your self in tha mirror,,,,,screaming GO NARUTO,,,,,,,,get ya mind right...
lol? first of all, stop using commas when you probably mean "..." It is very annoying. Second of all, how would he be another form of Zetsu? There is the black zetsu, which is the original, and the white one, made from the 1st's DNA. If what you are saying is it is another form of Zetsu, then why does Zetsu need to talk to Tobi? Why wouldn't he just send the information via Zetsu's Communication Technique? Why would he waste the time, talking to Tobi, when he could send it to him in an instant? Learn to back up your theory with FACTS before you start shooting other peoples theories down:p
 
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