[Discussion] Oda needs to take his head out of Zoro's green a....

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Why is Zoro running around neg-diffing people?
And why the hell is Oda pitting him against these fodders?

The rest of the SH's are actually having some type of difficulties since they get to have real fights. I mean look at this...

Zoro vs Monet (why the fvck?)
Zoro vs Hyouzou (fodder)
Zoro vs Pica (hopefully the fight isn't over yet)

Look at the rest of M3...

Sanji vs Vergo
Sanji vs DD

Luffy vs DD
Luffy vs Hody

I take solace in the fact that Sanji is high stepping on BM's crew right now.
And no, im not a Zoro hater. The reason im upset about this is because Zoro is one of my fav characters and Oda is making him the 007 of OP with those cheesy one liners.

Zoro you aren't Dante, so stop acting like him....

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Oda, either make Zoro the captain and make all this bs make sense (please don't) or get you're head out of his green ass and stop what you're doing to him.
 
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Pica and Vergo are basically at the same Level lmaoo I love it im a Zoro fan you mus like Sanji him getting 1 shotted against Vergo almost breaking his leg.

I think he is making Zoro look hella strong just to get one shotted in Wano country you know because the samurais there crushing his pride i guess im absolutely 100% Wano will be about Zoro
 

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All this solo king bs and the direction Oda is taking Zoro is making me dislike his character.

We don't need another Itachi in here.
 

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Hyozou was stronger than Wadatsumi, so yeah Zoro fought the second strongest, and Zoro also neg diffed Hody under water, granted it was without steroids but still; against Monet, well someone had to save Tashigi and agaisnt Pica, I don't think it's over but it was cool nonetheless to see Zoro doing that to the huge Pica's body; and why are you mad about the one liners, he's beend doing this since the beginning.

You talk about Sanji vs Doffy, well Zoro went up against Fujitora, and was low diffed, so I don't see how only Sanji gets f*cked up, and let's not forget how Oda makes Zoro eing stupid because his sense of direction and let's not forget that Zoro spend a bit of time chasing a dwarf for his swords while Sanji was actually doing something with Violet, so Oda isn't just making Zoro all cool and everything.

Now I never played Devil May Cry, but I looked and it was made in 2001 and Zoro appeared in 1997, so Zoro is saying one liners before Dante, so let's say Dante stop doing that, you ain't Zoro.

edit: don't start disliking a character just because some guys start saying stupid shit like soloking, not all of Zoro fans are like that. I don't like Itachi fapboys, but I still thin he's a good character.
 
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Hyozou was stronger than Wadatsumi, so yeah Zoro fought the second strongest, and Zoro also neg diffed Hody under water, granted it was without steroids but still; against Monet, well someone had to save Tashigi and agaisnt Pica, well, I don't think it's over but it was cool nonetheless to see Zoro doing that to the huge Pica's body; and why are you mad about the one liners, he's beend doing this since the beginning.

You talk about Sanji vs Doffy, well Zoro went up against Fujitora, and was low diffed, so I don't see how only Sanji gets f*cked up, and let's not forget how Oda makes Zoro eing stupid because his sense of direction and let's not forget that Zoro spend a bit of time chasing a dwarf for his swords while Sanji was actually doing something with Violet, so Oda isn't just making Zoro all cool and everything.

Now I never played Devil May Cry, but I looked and it was made in 2001 and Zoro appeared in 1997, so Zoro is saying one liners before Dante, so let's say Dante stop doing that, you ain't Zoro.
Dude, thats exactly my point!

Zoro doesn't do sh*t. He spends a whole arc chasing some dwarf and getting lost. Outside of the fights, Zoro has become irrelevant. Then, Oda thinks he can make it up by letting him neg-diff everyone on sight....NO!

Also, Zoro vs Fuji was inconclusive. Yes, Zoro would've lost but Zoro countered Fuji's gravity which is making all these Zorotards go wild with fanboyism. Sanji got legit stomped by DD.

And Lol @ Dante trying to be Zoro.

Dante actually makes it look cool whereas Zoro is just trying to be something he's not.

Dante can act badass and toss around one liners without making him look like a cheesy idiot.
 
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How is Zoro vs Pica not equal to Sanji vs Vergo? Pica, without a shred of doubt, trumps Vergo. It's just bad luck for Pica that he had to fight against Zoro, not the other way around.
 

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I would honestly love to see zoro surpassing luffy himself.

I mean something like :

Luffy gets owned by DD.
Zoro saves him from DD.
Zoro sees how weak luffy is.
He leaves the crew because the captain is weaker than him.
[after a while]
Luffy fights zoro and beats his ass and shows his who is the boss.
Zoro joins back the crew and says "this is the first and last time i will fight a guy without a sword."
 

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you forgot zoro one-shotting hody(before full buff-drugs) underwater
You forgot that Hody still caught Neptune and put Zoro, Brook and Usopp in a cage.

But I agree with the topic starter. Zoro is a very one-dimensional character.

He might add a lot to the SH's in terms of power, but he adds nothing to the story. 95% of the time he is missing or dlcking around, only to return for his mandatory fight at the end of the arc and his Austin Powers one-liner.

Zoro could really use some character development.

How is Zoro vs Pica not equal to Sanji vs Vergo? Pica, without a shred of doubt, trumps Vergo. It's just bad luck for Pica that he had to fight against Zoro, not the other way around.
You got it backwards. Pica is just one of the three officers in the Doflamingo family. Vergo was sent out to capture the fourth (Law) and was only beaten by his DF. Where Doflamingo expected that Vergo would rinse Law. This is more than enough that Doflamingo's right hand man is clearly above any of the seat members.

Vergo is unrivaled in hand to hand combat up till this point, Mr. Statue won't land a hit on Vergo with everything we've seen so far.
 
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I like both Sanji and Zoro, equally. But don't hate on a character for the sake of simply hating it.
let's not forget how Oda makes Zoro eing stupid because his sense of direction and let's not forget that Zoro spend a bit of time chasing a dwarf for his swords while Sanji was actually doing something with Violet
Yeah, it's not like that "dwarf" lead him to anything important or anything...

Sanji chasing a woman like an idiot = Zoro (being an idiot) with his sense of direction.
Don't make me talk crap about Sanji just to defend Zoro, but the arguments mentioned above are just ridiculous.
 

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How is Zoro vs Pica not equal to Sanji vs Vergo? Pica, without a shred of doubt, trumps Vergo. It's just bad luck for Pica that he had to fight against Zoro, not the other way around.
In what way does Pica trump Vergo?

Pica is just one of Doffy's executive whereas Vergo was his number 2 and most trusted. Vergo got beaten by Law due to his overconfidence in his own busoshoku haki. Aside from that one slice he was pummeling Smoker and got the better of Sanji in the minor clash. He never showed any signs of being on the losing end in those engagements against two powerful opponents.

What has Pica done? He assimilated a large mass of stone and is now currently getting his ass whooped. What makes you think he could beat Vergo?
 
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Dude, thats exactly my point!

Zoro doesn't do sh*t. He spends a whole arc chasing some useless dwarf and getting lost. Outside of the fights, Zoro has become irrelevant. Then, Oda thinks he can make it up by letting him neg-diff everyone on sight....NO!

Also, Zoro vs Fuji was inconclusive. Yes, Zoro would've lost but Zoro countered Fuji's gravity which is making all these Zorotards go wild with fanboyism. Sanji got legit stomped by DD.

And Lol @ Dante trying to be Zoro.

Dante actually makes it look cool whereas Zoro is just trying to be something he's not.
You're forgetting that Zoro is a brawn type of character, both him and Luffy are the brawlers of the SH, yes, Sanji is part of the M3, but he's more of an analytical type of person, and doesn't like to fight as much as Luffy and Zoro, these two are the muscles of the crew, and they love to fight more than anything, especially Zoro who is always trying to test his skills, and let's not forget Zoro is there to put Luffy in his place as a captain too. I mean if Oda would make Zoro do something useful in this arc and then neg diff everyone it would be worse no, btw, Zoro spent 2 years training with Mihawk and we know how Zoro loves to train, so did you expect that he would be weaker than what he's showing, hell look how Luffy took care of a legend like Chin Jao, without going all out

edit: again, how is Zoro trying to be someone he's not if Oda made him this way with the one liners, i don't understand that.
 
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I like both Sanji and Zoro, equally. But don't hate on a character for the sake of simply hating it.

Yeah, it's not like that "dwarf" lead him to anything important or anything...

Sanji chasing a woman like an idiot = Zoro (being an idiot) with his sense of direction.
Don't make me talk crap about Sanji just to defend Zoro, but the arguments mentioned above are just ridiculous.
What does Sanji suddenly have to do with this ? Why would you deliberately want to bad mouth Sanji to make Zoro look better.

That's not how a discussion works.
 
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I like both Sanji and Zoro, equally. But don't hate on a character for the sake of simply hating it.

Yeah, it's not like that "dwarf" lead him to anything important or anything...

Sanji chasing a woman like an idiot = Zoro (being an idiot) with his sense of direction.
Don't make me talk crap about Sanji just to defend Zoro, but the arguments mentioned above are just ridiculous.
Dude falling over a girl, isn't nowhere as bad as don't know how to g in front when someone tells you to keep going ahead, or when someone tells you, go up the stairs and you end up going left or right.
 
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