Obito's willpower vs Madara's willpower

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Obito had to go through an entire phase where the Juubi was ripping apart his Mind and Physche while Madara never had to go through that.

because kaguya let madara do it so she could steal his body. she tried to kill obito when he diid it.
 

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Obito has the greater willpower definitely. In all likelihood in Madara's case, Kaguya's will (BZ) resonated with herself (the Shinju within Madara) and BZ stabbing Madara was basically like unlocking the key to bring Kaguya out and use Madara as a host.
 

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Obito has the greater willpower. It's without question. When bz/madara tried to take him over b4 he became jin despite having a hole in his chest and getting ripped apart by minato he still overcame both and became jin.

Then he overcame kaguya herself to gain control of his body.
Only once could bz control obito while he was conscious.
 

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Let me try and keep it simple for you. Obito...solos...Kishi... and...his...manga! Say it with me now!

To break it down in even simpler terms, Kamui GG!
 

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Obito's will power is far greater than Madara's. Obito defied BZ/Kaguya's will Multiple times all on the verge of death, he even overpowered the Juubi. While Madara got taken out in his Prime by BZ and showed no signs of resistance.....complete stomp.

Obito is also shown to be a tank, he can take a shyt ton of dmg and still get back up.
 

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Obito's Will is the strongest.

Just Rin the only one that able to breach Obito's Will
 

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Obito for sure. Madara let a weak-minded woman take over him. Lol
 

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Madara. Obito struggled to controlled the Juubi, while Madara casually controlled it.
 

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Madara. Obito struggled to controlled the Juubi, while Madara casually controlled it.

madara controlled it with power. which is why he lost to bz because he couldnt do anything. obito used will and lost to will
 

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Kaguyas will manifested in bz when it took over Madara. I'd say they have more or less equal will power. Madara wanted nothing more but to see his dream completed.
 

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Rin must have been the daughter of the ramen guy cuz obito went through some insane stuff
 

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It's not like Madara was aware Black Zetsu, the creature he thought he created himself, would back-stab him. Whereas in Obito's case, he knew Black Zetsu's intentions since the forcible Rinne Tensei. Both cases were different. If Madara knew Black Zetsu's original intentions, he would have resist his control effortlessly.

As for willpower, Obito struggled fighting the Juubi; Madara took control of it instantly. That is the mental gap between each individual.
 

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I'd say Obito has the greater will power since he resisted Kaguya's and BZ's control several times.Madara was easily taken over by the two in the end.
 

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I'm not saying you're retarded, but if that is the actual answer then that is retarded.

I was thinking it had something to do with BZ using the power of Kaguya against him, but I am hoping for something more concrete.

It's not retarded.. Kimimaro kept himself alive with sheer will and still managed to use use his curse mark's full power..
 

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Madara has the greatest will power because he came back to life TWICE and conquered the world from his grave.. Obito had the Gedo Mazo's life force + Senju cells doing half the work :|
 

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Obito does. This fuker used Rinne Tensei, got the Bijuu extracted from him, became a Juubi Jin, died then came back to make us witness the biggest asspull in anime history.
 

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It's not like Madara was aware Black Zetsu, the creature he thought he created himself, would back-stab him. Whereas in Obito's case, he knew Black Zetsu's intentions since the forcible Rinne Tensei. Both cases were different. If Madara knew Black Zetsu's original intentions, he would have resist his control effortlessly.

As for willpower, Obito struggled fighting the Juubi; Madara took control of it instantly. That is the mental gap between each individual.
But instead he just sat there like an idiot while Black Zetsu talked. Is that really what you want to say?

As for your other point, you think the Juubi wanted to fight Madara? Don't be dumb.
The Juubi is Kaguya. The Juubi/Shinju can think. Kaguya wanted Madara to advance her plans as much as possible before taking control. So the Juubi didn't resist Madara. Simple stuff.
 
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