Susano'o requires to Mangekyo Sharingan Eyes. As the powers are drawn from both left and right eyes.
The only idiot here is you....read the damn databook genius and then you will see that you do need them both.Maybe some of you are being idiots on purpose, idk, but seriously....you don't need Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi for Susanoo. All you need is two sharingan MS eye balls....and Obito doesn't , simple as that. So please stop being idiots and saying he needs Tsuku and Amat first, that just show's how little you even know.
tobi's rinnegan was not naturally evolved it's the same rinnegan that madara awakened then gave to nagato then tobi stole it back. it's not the same as naturally awakening itObito definitely has Susano.. Amaterasu.. and others Jutsu ( which MS can use)...the explanation as below:-
1) To have a Rinnegan means that the sharingan had evolve to the highest limits.. sharingan > MS > Rinnegan... this is as Madara told to the 5 kages in the battle.. that he awaken the rinnegan eyes during the Harashima battle... so to have the rinnegan means ones has to evolve his sharingan to MS then Rinnegan... ( sasuke is on his way... and i bet he will awaken his Rinnegan during his battle with Naruto..) so the left eyes of obito (rinnegan) means he has evolve the eyes from MS to Rinngean...
so what? danzo could do izanagi does that mean he has susanoo too?2) Obito can do Izanagi ... during the battle with Konan ...
that may be what you think but what you think is wrong. he isn't waiting to be pushed to that limit he can't do it at all3) Obito didnt shows all his technique and skills .... i think its because he didnt need to... there is no opponent that can push him to use those Jutsu... as long as he can slips those attacks i think he wont use it... unless someone can beat him badly then the susano will appears...
once again, no. it isn't about chakra consumption it's about a lack of the ability to do it4) obito was concentrating on the reviving the 10 tails... maybe its consume a lot of chakra.. so if he activate Susano , it will jeopardize the whole mission...
but, its cools to see that obito know different skills... like kamui which his Ms can activate, and that Uchiha barrier.. no one ever use it...
wtf are you talking about? it's not logic but it's facts? no dumbass it's been explained that tobi is obito and just how it all came to be, i personally don't agree with it because obito is going waaaaay to far just to try to provide himself with a false sense of happiness, but it all makes sense. just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's illogical, that means that you are illogical.he have susanoo ... but he didnt need it yet!!!... the reasons uchiha use susano is because susanoo is the best sheild , to protect from any attacks.. by using susanoo , uchiha will be unbeatable... as for obito, susanoo is not a need because his opponent are barely touch him or attacks hims... so he didnt need susano to protect himself , right?? as long as he can avoid the attacks, he be fine....
and he maybe has the Harashima cells.. so he can heals himself quickly.. thats why the naruto rasengan didnt hurt much .. just a torn shirt and a broken mask... if he was pushed to his limits, maybe in the verge of death, then he will use it.. so for now, obito didnt show yet all of his powers and technique.. and do not forget , he is Madara disciples... so he still have something under his sleeve...
ands once agains, he most likely try to save chakra.. using a susanoo dealt with great risk.. to much chakra consumes.. he is fighting against the strongest shinobi... so he needs to fights carefully...
JUST SEE!!!... waits for the time to come... Obito's Susanoo will be revealed.... (just like tobi = Obito.. is not logic but its the facts)
Dont See doesnt means its not exist.. just the time will show it...
nobody intelligent because it was said a long time ago that tsukuyomi and amaterasu are necessary for susanoo, therefore obito doesn't have susanoo especially since he doesn't even have to sharinganWho agreed with me that Obito has Susanoo?
no. you are 100% wrong about everything you said first of all sasuke didn't use susanoo til the kage summit, but he used amaterasu like 5 minutes after he woke up after his fight with itachi, if you wanna get technical and say that was itachi's then fine. he also used amaterasu AND tsukuyomi against bee when they were trying to capture the hachibi and if you try to say that was after his susanoo which happened at the summit that was called BECAUSE sasuke "captured" bee then just gtfo cuz you're dead wrongi dont understand the facts that need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to activate Susanoo.. try to understand this:-
1) Sasuke awaken susanoo without using Tsukuyomi and amaterasu first... he uses amaterasu after activating the susanoo... so the fact that Tsukuyomi and amaterasu needed to activate Susanoo is rubbish... the Susanoo, amaterasu, Tsukuyomi is like the technique that can be use by MS users... those technique is more likely a package for MS users... maybe the degree of the technique power or shape is different from one to anothers... such as Madara Susanoo is more high level than Itachi and sasuke... Sasuke amaterasu is more efficient than itachi because sasuke can manipulate the susano shape to become weapons or sheilds...
no once again you are completely wrong. he may have a shit ton of sharingan but that doesn't mean that if he puts one in he can use his own MS powers with it, each eye has it's own unique powers which is why danzo was able to use kotoamatsukami at the summit, because he had shisui's eye. once again even if he could use someone elses eye for his own MS he still wouldn't be granted susanoo because he can't use tsuku or amat. yes madara's eyes are his own which is why he can switch between EMS and Rinnegan at will, in fact, that's the reason that he has acess to the rinnegan at all. no other person in the world has awakened rinnegan so who elses eyes could they possibly be? have you seen tobi switch his rinnegan back to an EMS ever? no because there wouldn't be a point in having his own MS and madara's EMS at the same time2) Once again.. try to look at the facts that... Obito has many sharingan eyes... which means he can activate any of those eyes into MS anytime... so what the heck are u saying repeatedly that obito DON'T HAVE 2 MS!!!... open ur eyes... the facts that he don't have 2 MS is funny.... HA HA HA... he dont have his both eyes , yes that true... but who needs the same eyes to awaken the MS.. its just need 2 sharingan only .... doesnt matter who eyes is it.... Madara eyes... are u confirm that the eyes that madara uses now is his originals eyes... what if one is different to another... THE FACTS IS THAT MS CAN BE AWAKEN EVENTHOUGH THE EYES IS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, JUST AS LONG AS IT WAS AT THE SAME PERSONS...
we don't need to look at anything the susanoo has because it's all irrelevant because no matter how positive or sure you may be it will never happen because he CAN NOT DO IT3) and try to thinks this... WHAT IS THE SUSANOO?? ... WHAT IT IS SUSANOO USES?..
a) As a powerfull sheilds against strong / weak attacks....
> Itachi never uses it before untill he was attacks by Sasuke Kirin... itachi uses it as the Sheilds...
> Sasuke saves his life from Raikage (ay) attacks by activating the Susanoo...
> Madara uses it when fighting the 5 kages...
b) also as a powerfull attacks...
> Itachi using it against nagato..
> sasuke using it killing Zetsu... amaterasu swords..
> madara using the susanoo swords to breaks the grounds during 5 kages battle...
# but most importantly... look closely... those people who activate the Susanoo... what is the similarity... they vulnerable ( expose) to attacks if they not using the Susanoo... those poeple can be touch.. any strike / attacks can hit them ... so , to sheilds themself.. Susanoo is the best tools...
As for obito... he didnt need to activate the susanoo YET!!! because no one can land an attacks of him... If his live was threatened , Im positively sure that he will using the Susanoo
once again incorrect, he can't use any one elses eye to replace it, he can however use someone elses eye in the place of his own but i don't see why he would because that would mean he would have to first learn how the other persons eye techniques worked because it wouldn't turn into his MS(kamui) it would remain the same as whoever's eye atually was(i.e. if he used shisui's eye he would be granted kotoamatsukamiIf the left eyes ( Kakashi sharingan eyes) is important .. don't u think that , to gain it will be the First Thing in Obito/ Akatsuki To Do List... he must chasing that eyes , before making his move to start the War.. but did he??
No, he dont!!!!
Why?
Because, its doesnt matter... the eyes is not important... he still can use others sharingan in his possessions to replace it...
ok so he used a random sharingan to do izanagi with. what's your point? we all know that he has a vast amount of sharingan but that doesn't mean that he can just put one in and it will sudennly morph into the characteristics of his own MS which is apparently what you are trying to claim.see this proof that Obito uses Izanagi when fight Konan... in ur face...HahaHa..
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this the proof that obito has 2 sharingan... in ur face...hahaha
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the proof of what? that he can use izanagi? yea congratulations you finally got something right. to bad every person that is up to date with the story has known that for months. izanagi and susanoo are two completely different things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other aside from them both being sharingan techs.izanagi is only for those who posses senju and uchiha cells together... it was originally use by sage of six paths... thats why the ones who can performs it , the sage of six paths, danzo, obito.... this is the proof
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first of all your time frame is completely off. i don't even understand why anyone bothered arguing with you when you don't even know what happened or when. secondly the fact that you blatantly ignore facts from the data books and try to claim that kishi isn't using the same facts just shows how utterly stupid you are. anyway kakashi awakened his/obito's MS and then immediately passed out due to fatigue so he wasn't aware that it even happened because 1 he passed out immediately and 2 he wasn't exactly in a stable mind state because he just killed his best friend. that being said, you claim he only showed it when fighting madara when it was first seen against deidara before madara even became a part of the plot so get your shit straight. and the fact that he awakened his MS when he killed rin is indeed a new fact because nobody knew how it was awakened before this week so yes it's very new, does that mean that it's wrong or illogical, hell no. but you are to stupid to comprehend the simplest of matters so i wouldn't expect you to figure out the reason why he never used it before part 2the books is back dated... now kishi is making story not totally basis in the past facts.. u can see now that there a some facts that different from the previous chapter... same with the kakashi MS awaken.. it show that it was awaken when they are young but...kakashi only show it when fighting madara... so the facts that MS awaken when kakashi killed rin is just a new made ...
completely wrong again. i can't keep track of how much you fail anymore. sasuke did not just use susanoo first he used both amaterasu and tsukuyomi against bee and that was before the kage summit ever happened so try again retard. madara uses the susanoo without BEING SHOWN using amat or tsuku because he's enough of a beast to not need to use amat or tsuku against anyone he was toying with everyone and he is a very arrogant person so he used susanoo straight away to show everyone how inferior they are in comparison to him, but just because he didn't use ama or tsuku doesn't mean he doesn't have them. the fact that he used susanoo proves that straight away and there is no need to ask if he has them or notand then if really needs to have amaterasu and tsukuyomi to activate susanoo.. does sasuke shows u that he uses amaterasu and tsukuyomi first then activate susanoo... NO!!! he just use the susanoo... the questions here is not just does Obito has susanoo or not... it also does Obito has tsukuyomi and amaterasu or not? ... Madara also uses susano without using the tsukuyomi and amaterasu.. u cant just say that he cant susanoo or amaterasu or tsukuyomi because u didnt see he using it yet...
first of all you're skipping a whole step in the sharingan ladder, it's 1T, 2T, 3T, MS, EMS, then rinnegan. second if you honestly think that obito got to the level of rinnegan 6 seperate times yet still hasn't awakend it in his own eye then you are completely retarded and all hope is lost for you. madara JUST said even tho obito has uchiha blood and senju DNA he still may not achieve the rinnegan. madara himself had senju dna implanted for years and nothing happened until he was near his death so no nobody awakened 6 sets of rinnegan.ok the rinnegan... how to awake rinnegan? .. tells me... from MS > rinnegan... so who eyes is it.. Madara? .. it only a pair which given to young nagato... so how about the rest Pain.. who eyes is it... 6 pairs.. i doubtly that madara gives them all... its obito ho has to do the awakening the sharingan eyes...
i honestly don't understand what point you're trying to make here. yes the rinnegan is so he can control the mazou but what are you trying to say?he not using the MS in both of his eyes because he needs to control the bijuu ... so he use one MS and one rinnegan... and that rinngean is needed to control edo mazo...
he has a lot of sharingan collections... maybe there are a few in his possession is already in MS mode... because he never worried about internal darkness... Why?.. because he already has the internal MS... thats why he didnt bother his eyes with kakashi...
it is obvious to not gaining the highest power before starting the war... Obito must realise that to gain Ms in important before start the war... its stupid to let kakashi wondering aroung with his eyes... unless it was not IMPORTANT!!!
if only obito took his eye back from kakashi... He's have phasing, kamui, and mutha****in Susanoo!!!! And Mokuton! And KAton!He'd be the most unstopable life form of all time
Same here/\Without 2 sharingans, I don't think Obito can have Susanoo.
But Kishi can do anything so lets keep Kishi out and then Obito can not have Susanoo logically.
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